• UK at risk of being 'cut off from world' for not learning more languages
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[QUOTE=Sobotnik;32657014]The English one is bigger than both of the two you highlighted combined.[/QUOTE] Point? Maybe you should go back to kindergarten as you obviously can't read, think, or even understand what highlighting is for. It is to draw attention to something, did I highlight English? No. Then why the fuck are you talking about it. [editline]6th October 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=DiBBs27;32657036]Oh! Useful link. Well this pretty much proves english is predominant as an international language. You know, just in case that even needed proving. :p[/QUOTE] Not completely as I could buy a .com and make the website in Dutch, but its safe to say most of them are in English.
[QUOTE=mobrockers2;32657042] Not completely as I could buy a .com and make the website in Dutch, but its safe to say most of them are in English.[/QUOTE] Also true. But who would do this just for the sake of boosting a statistic?
[QUOTE=Contag;32656358]That's rubbish, your brain doesn't stop working. I can't remember anything from the languages I learned when I was young.[/QUOTE] no, it's well documented that the brain becomes less able to adapt to new ways of thinking once it reaches maturity. this extends to languages
[QUOTE=Atlascore;32657119]Why the fuck are you even arguing about this? English is the most used language on the internet, deal with it.[/QUOTE] I know it is, and I wish I had never had to learn Dutch, as English is awesome. But that doesn't mean that I can't argue about how factual some things are? The fuck is YOUR problem?
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;32657144]no, it's well documented that the brain becomes less able to adapt to new ways of thinking once it reaches maturity. this extends to languages[/QUOTE] Yes, the younger you are the more receptive your brain is to learning.
[QUOTE=Atlascore;32657235]What you just said made no sense, you're saying I have a problem but you're on an internet forum arguing over something that's a fact. Seriously what is the point in arguing over how factual something is?[/QUOTE] For internet dominance?
[QUOTE=Atlascore;32657235]What you just said made no sense, you're saying I have a problem but you're on an internet forum arguing over something that's a fact. Seriously what is the point in arguing over how factual something is?[/QUOTE] Show me one post where I am arguing that English isn't the dominant language on the internet. Hell, show me a post where I argue English isn't the dominant language in the world. Please.
In mobrockers defense, I can't find one. Maybe i'm not looking hard enough? Unfortunately this debate has strayed from the initial topic. I'd say it's rather spent anyways.
To be honest most people don't realise that knowledge of multiple languages from major growing markets is incredibly useful. While english is a certain baseline international language, you can get a far better rapport as well as results with customers, firms and who knows what else that exist beyond the language barriers with using their languages. Likewise large amounts of internal and even some external company documentation tend to be in the local language. Just knowing english won't cut of England from the rest of the world, but it might harm it's workers in the long run.
[QUOTE=Atlascore;32657341][/QUOTE] That might not have been my best post, but that post says nothing. I explained my post later. [img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5483751/Photos/2011-10-06_2252.png[/img]
[QUOTE=Garik;32652603]Pfft. Bullshit. What is the most known and international language world-wide and most likely the easiest to learn. English.[/QUOTE] English's grammar is so easy. Police police police. Buffalo buffalo police. Police! Buffalo! Buffalo police police Buffalo buffalo. Buffalo police Buffalo Buffalo.
Not really fair that they seem to blame us, the citizens when it's all down to a shitty education system.
I remember sitting in my German class every week for 3 years thinking "WTF IS THIS GENDER SHIT"
[QUOTE=krakadict;32652552]i'll never leave england so there's no need to learn new languages, but if i was i'd sure as hell try and learn that countries language[/QUOTE] So you are planning to never England at all? I do not understand how someone could go through life never leaving the country they were born in. [editline]7th October 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Zenpod;32660189]I remember sitting in my German class every week for 3 years thinking "WTF IS THIS GENDER SHIT"[/QUOTE] Language gender confuses the fuck out of me, I much prefer the neutral way English works. I get the feeling if I spoke a language like German as my native language I would be saying the same in reverse. [editline]7th October 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=DiBBs27;32655005]What a load of bull. Arabic? One of the WORST sounding languages in the world. No thanks, they aren't that important that people should be learning that language. [/QUOTE] Arabic is a very important language, more people should learn it. Aside from being important its very interesting, I have tried to teach myself it (I know like 5 words so far >_>) and its just interesting in the way that it works.
I wish schools here offered more choice in foreign languages. I took Spanish from 3rd grade to the first two years of University, just because other languages weren't offered until high school, and by then it was silly to try to learn another foreign language when you already had years of time devoted to one. And now I'm quite possibly moving to Sweden, where my ability to speak Spanish will be of no use at all, and I'll have to start learning a language all over again.
i can only spoke english the word "tree"
[QUOTE=Zenpod;32660189]I remember sitting in my German class every week for 3 years thinking "WTF IS THIS GENDER SHIT"[/QUOTE] I'm currently taking Latin and I hear the horror of knowing that every noun has like 3 different gender forms, and every adjective has a huge amount of forms and my first thought it "WTF" and then I hear that one noun can have like TWENTY ONE different forms from just one word. :suicide: I don't know about everyone else but neutral words is preferable to me
Cut off from the rest of the world isn't the england the island that is the centre of the world or am I a bit late.
I remember French class, I would finally master how to do one thing and then the teacher would say to do it for another gender which required different verb forms and spelling, I would tune out right away, plus I always wanted to learn Swedish at the age we started language because all I listened to back then was metal and my favorite bands were all from Sweden so I had no real desire to learn French. :v: I still want to learn Swedish actually, I just lack the time and resources to teach myself.
That's not bad at all Britian, English is recommended language nowadays. I don't know why I'm learning Spanish even though I can't really count on it for everyday things. I'd rather learn Japenese, the perferred language of most Anime and hentai's .... But wait, FUCK TAKING CLASSES I GOT MY DAMN ROSSETTA STONE :v:
[QUOTE=7DeadlySyns;32652610]I highly doubt that the UK would be cut off from the rest of the world.[/QUOTE] Geographically it is, being an island and such.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;32661833]Geographically it is, being an island and such.[/QUOTE] Hey now, we have a tunnel connecting us to mainland Europe. That counts right?
I speak english, spanish, and french. I hardly ever encounter situations where I use french, spanish on occasion but not frequent enough for it to be necessary to know. It's a bit silly to suggest than a nation is cut off from the world because most of it's inhabitants aren't fluent in other languages, as most people won't need to know more languages for work ever.
[QUOTE=Jsm;32661894]Hey now, we have a tunnel connecting us to mainland Europe. That counts right?[/QUOTE] I guess.
[QUOTE=Baldr 2.0;32661811]Don't want to? Your loss. Currently learning the third one and it's amazing how much it broadens your view. Still while most people can speak or understand English do note how bad it can be, in fact the pronunciation of most people is so horrible that holding a decent conversation would be hard. While I can pass English classes with a 9/10 I still say the k in know.[/QUOTE] I hate that so much, no matter how hard I try I still sound like a tard when speaking English.
Maybe I should learn French. We depend way too much on the English Language.
[QUOTE=BCell;32664184]Maybe I should learn French. We depend way too much on the English Language.[/QUOTE] Learn Dutch, French sucks :D
If you want to know your native language because you're proud of your culture, go right ahead. Please, though, learn English because it really is the standard in the modern world.
It's really not so much that English is the language of the modern world, but just that it's become the lingua de franca for the time being. Learning English is something thats mandatory for the moment, but the lingua de franca was once Arabic. You never know when it can change, plus learning a second language is a good thing, you learn a lot about people through the way they phrase things. I'm not saying Britain will necessarily be 'shut off from the rest of the world' but there's nothing wrong with learning a second language in school, the coordinator of our schools curriculum is a British woman fluent in seven languages; and it makes public relations for the school that much easier.
French classes in school sucked, the teacher spent more time yelling at the students who didn't behave than teaching the rest of us. I can't blame the teachers entirely but perhaps they really need to get those kids who disrupt into another class untill they learn to stop it. I dropped French but not by choice but because it clashed with something else I wanted to do on the timetable. I'm learning Danish now, I'm on a pretty high speed course, it's pretty important for me to learn it as I live here. Most people seem to speak good English but 1) I'd feel rude if I lived here permanently and never bothered learning the language and 2) Most jobs want me to speak Danish. What kills me though is the tons of silent letters in words and how many words sound practically the same to me but mean very different things.
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