• Gabe Newell: "Piracy is basically a non-issue for our company."
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[quote]Gabe Newell[/quote] HERE TAKE ALL MY MONEY
The bans in this thread are fucking retarded. Getting banned for talking about piracy in a thread about piracy.
He already said stuff about piracy and Russia a couple of years ago. Starts at about 3:30 [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87pevh2Q0hg[/media]
I really dont know, even though i usually dont BUY games, steam has always been an exception. Steam is really that damn easy, i got to press a button, and its going to buy the game and download the game, and download all updates automatically, no bullshit. The steam interface is absolutely fantastic, and i got the latest game news on my hand all the time. And those sales. Oh god those sales. My wallet is empty.
It's really enjoyable how Valve is a huge antithesis to the marketing strategies of many big corporations with tons of marketing professionals. [quote]We need to find more opportunities to make money, through hilarious DLC for example, and slowly raise the prices of video games! I mean, buying/buying all those new engines and filling it with HQ models, textures and shaders is really, really expensive![/quote]VS[quote="Valve"]Is 75% off really all we can do?[/quote] -------------- [quote]Arm the cannons with even bigger DRM balls so we sink that pirate ship and can rot out this pest![/quote]VS[quote="Valve"]Scratch the cannons and build a bridge to the pirate ship made from awesome and joy![/quote] I just cannot stop loving Valve for their "screw (most of) that theoretical bullshit, let's look at our charts and see what the customer likes, then exceed their expectations and make the best damn game with the best damn service we can do!" It's just so much more human than those who cannot understand how anyone would spend money on something when they can also get it for free elsewhere.
[QUOTE=JCDentonUNATCO;33423791]Because greed.[/QUOTE] That's so stupid. Valve is a huge successful company and yet the other companies can't take a hint about the one that keeps on making millions without either disappointed their customers or losing any sort of profit from piracy. That's not greed, hell, Gabe is the greediest of all by being such an evil genius of marketing, other companies are just dumb fucks.
[QUOTE=Trainbike;33430861]Uh... I don't think you quite understand cloning :v:[/QUOTE] I understand cloning. I mean the generic 'hurr cloning machine' from sci-fi, not the method that we use in real life that only works with animals and is basically asexual reproduction
A little article on GabeN's views on DRM, "DRM strategies "are just dumb" because they only decrease the value of a game in the consumer's eyes." [url]http://www.1up.com/news/gabe-newell-drm-strategies-dumb[/url]
Why can't someone like Gabe be CEO of ubisoft? D:
[QUOTE=Solo Wing;33436697]Why can't someone like Gabe be CEO of ubisoft? D:[/QUOTE] Because no one like Gaben wants to be.
Ubisoft need to take not of this, instead of getting butthurt that people are pirating their games out of spite due to their retarded approach to DRM.
[QUOTE=neos300;33430308]Basically, you need money to make things. In the beginning of the company, shareholders buy stock and invest there money into the company so the company has some money to make stuff with. Stock shares are basically ownership of the company, the more of the shares you have, the more you own. The shareholders can either sell the stock later for more money or guide the company towards their idea of growth, to get even more money. You can't just 'go indie', it would be fraud.[/QUOTE] It is possible for a company to go private after an IPO. All they have to do is buy back all their shares. Nobody gets defrauded in doing that.
This gives me hope in the game industry.
With such idiotic gaming companies whose DRM fucks users (Ubisoft comes to mind) Valve is a beacon of hope. Such a great company. They care more about their customers than anyone else and they're successful too.
I love you, Valve.
[QUOTE=shakadamus;33436742]Ubisoft need to take not of this, instead of getting butthurt that people are pirating their games out of spite due to their retarded approach to DRM.[/QUOTE] They are already taking 'not' of this, that's why people despise them.
[QUOTE=legolover122;33423720]Gabe Newell is a brilliant man. Make a nice DRM system that doesnt screw the customers and tie it all up with deals every day PLUS megadeals like this one and you will probably get a lot more people buying their stuff...[/QUOTE] You guys bitch about Ubisoft's Internet only DRM, yet Steam is innocent. I had no internet other day and I couldn't play Skyrim. It is not all that brilliant.
[QUOTE=Wnd;33442960]You guys bitch about Ubisoft's Internet only DRM, yet Steam is innocent. I had no internet other day and I couldn't play Skyrim. It is not all that brilliant.[/QUOTE] The point is that Steam [B]is[/B] the DRM.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;33436139]That's so stupid. Valve is a huge successful company and yet the other companies can't take a hint about the one that keeps on making millions without either disappointed their customers or losing any sort of profit from piracy. That's not greed, hell, Gabe is the greediest of all by being such an evil genius of marketing, other companies are just dumb fucks.[/QUOTE] Greed doesn't exactly give you clear vision. I guess a better thing to say would be: Incompetence. Gabe is the most down to earth CEO on the planet and he also runs the most promising video game company there is. Meanwhile people like Notch and Kotick let money get to their heads and they forget what made them profitable in the first place. Their customers.
To be honest though, it's not like Steam's DRM is the greatest. You have to be logged in to their own servers in order to play the games you paid for; even if you try to play in offline mode you have to first make an initial connection to Steam.
[QUOTE=JCDentonUNATCO;33443001]Greed doesn't exactly give you clear vision. I guess a better thing to say would be: Incompetence. Gabe is the most down to earth CEO on the planet and he also runs the most promising video game company there is. Meanwhile people like Notch and Kotick let money get to their heads and they forget what made them profitable in the first place. Their customers.[/QUOTE] In your scenario Garry Newman is like Gabe Newell
[QUOTE=JCDentonUNATCO;33443001]Greed doesn't exactly give you clear vision. I guess a better thing to say would be: Incompetence. Gabe is the most down to earth CEO on the planet and he also runs the most promising video game company there is. Meanwhile people like Notch and Kotick let money get to their heads and they forget what made them profitable in the first place. Their customers.[/QUOTE] Well not exactly on Notch and Kotick. They realize that their customers are stupid and exploit them by handing them shit and calling it an update.
Why are people saying steams offline mode is broken and you have to be online first? That was fixed ages ago and its not steams problem any more.
Gabe needs to have a monopoly on video game development, he's part of the rare breed in the publishing business that isn't a consumer-screwing asshole stuck up with fear of pirating and trying to protect everything like Scrooge McDuck protection his lucky dime.
You guys know what that 'customer centric' means by the way? It means ways of acquiring more and more customers.. spenders. They succeeded in that BIG TIME. I mean, Gabe's getting old, they are very rich and they got few games of their own coming out of which Dota2 makes an attempt at acquiring EVEN MORE customers. Also customers who aren't even gonna play Dota2 too much, that's all extra. Assuming of course Dota2 is gonna work out for the whole dota community, or most of them.
[QUOTE=Pat4ever;33443277]To be honest though, it's not like Steam's DRM is the greatest. You have to be logged in to their own servers in order to play the games you paid for; even if you try to play in offline mode you have to first make an initial connection to Steam.[/QUOTE] No, you can start up your computer without internet and steam will let you just play offline At least for me it does
You simply have to have previously logged in - all your credentials are stored in (I believe) the .blob file. If your credentials are present, you're fully able to play in offline mode.
[QUOTE=thisispain;33423733]and of course it doesn't hurt that steam's DRM is a lot of the time quite effective, right gabe?[/QUOTE] Steam is [I]not[/I] a good DRM, in the way that it doesn't prevent piracy. what it really does is that it prevents day-zero piracy but that's it. [editline]26th November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=areolop;33442972]The point is that Steam [B]is[/B] the DRM.[/QUOTE] Again, no, it's not. Steam does [B]not[/B] prevent piracy. [editline]26th November 2011[/editline] In many cases actually, Steam versions of the game get pirated before retail versions does, because it's easier.
[QUOTE=Jack Trades;33447705]Steam is [I]not[/I] a good DRM, in the way that it doesn't prevent piracy. what it really does is that it prevents day-zero piracy but that's it. [editline]26th November 2011[/editline] Again, no, it's not. Steam does [B]not[/B] prevent piracy. [editline]26th November 2011[/editline] In many cases actually, Steam versions of the game get pirated before retail versions does, because it's easier.[/QUOTE] Actually steam is a drm(digital rights manager). It manages your rights with the game and does not allow you to play the game for example without steam or sometimes in offline mode. You can't play a steam game if you don't own it. That is drm. Cracking drm is irrelevant, that does not make it any less of a drm. There are some steam games that run without steam, but that's because developers did not integrate steam drm into their games. At the steamworks site it even says that steam can go as far as create an unique executable for each user. It's just that it's not a very good drm and easy to crack. No drm prevents piracy, that has been proven impossible so far.
Valve: Piracy is a non-issue Ubisoft: 95% of PC gamers are pirates BWAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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