The U.S. Government should be "on its knees every day begging that nothing happen to Snowden", claim
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[QUOTE=bull3tmagn3t;41446686]"the nuke codes r 1234"[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;41446823]"amazing, thats the code for my luggage!"[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Alec W;41445293]Is it bad that I'm afraid to give an opinion on all of this online?
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Yes, because it shows how ignorantly paranoid you are.
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[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;41446892]Yes, because it shows how ignorantly paranoid you are.[/QUOTE]
Watch out guys the NSA watches EVERYTHING!!11!!1! It's actually kind of funny how overblown some of this has gotten. It's bad yes but the way some people talk about it will probably have you believe that the NSA listens to ever single phone call you have ever made.
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[QUOTE=Alec W;41445293]Is it bad that I'm afraid to give an opinion on all of this online?
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Yep, it's pretty stupid
Of all the things I could get arrested for saying online, criticizing the gov't isn't one of them. Things haven't gotten that bad yet.
You don't even live in the fucking country
So yes, it is bad that you're scared to speak against it online.
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;41447008][I]SURROUNDED BY ASSHOLES.[/I][/QUOTE]
YOU WENT OVER MY HELMET?
Doesn't Assange also have the Dooms-Day leak which if he gets captured or dies it will be published for the world to see?
[QUOTE=scout1;41446314]Yes, I know. But I worry. I think he has a lot, and I think I don't know what all or even much of it is. I don't know what he can do.[/QUOTE]
Hahaha you worry that the US government will be exposed.
Yeah, the insurance.aes256 file.
The guy is in serious danger, and now that the NSA thing was revealed hes probably going to have a dead mans switch, as stated earlier. The reason for this is an entirely different mindset. I'm pretty sure hes releasing the information that directly concerns the American people and keeping the more indirect, but still "edgy" practices. While this would be good for the average Joe to know in the concern of knowledge and better perception of government, long term ripples in the water of this more sensitive information would probably be something more useful in the hands of the "Evil doers"
Thus why its on a dead switch that will most likely get pulled one way or another. It's ransom with the narrative of "You try something and your careers are ruined" that, as we all know, is generally more important in another perspective. It's effectively a cold war. If the knowledge is severely classified for justified reasons, then things should just be left alone to prevent anymore damage. To be more dramatic: It's a chain of links, and unless one breaks (like leaving him alone) then the sequence is broken and all of this will come to light when it's obsolete, like old Cold War files, which if it puts say, [B]ME[/B] in danger, then it's best that way.
[QUOTE=catbarf;41445799]Snowden could just as easily reveal all the same information by staying alive if he so chooses. The US government isn't going to let its information and reputation be held hostage indefinitely by one defector.
What I don't get is why he's hanging on to it in the first place instead of making it public. If this is evidence of serious misdoings by the US government, it seems inconsistent with the risked-everything-for-the-people narrative built around him for him to save it to try to ensure his own safety. If it isn't, then he really doesn't have any justification to release it in the first place and it could compromise his image as a whistleblower (diehard supporters on Facepunch notwithstanding).[/QUOTE]
Snowden uses this information to keep himself alive. It's basically a hostage situation, he's keeping this information as a bargaining chip.
[QUOTE=Bazsil;41447317]Yep, it's pretty stupid
Of all the things I could get arrested for saying online, criticizing the gov't isn't one of them. Things haven't gotten that bad yet.
You don't even live in the fucking country
So yes, it is bad that you're scared to speak against it online.[/QUOTE]
it was literally 6 posts down that he said his flagdog was incorrect
Somehow I doubt it could really cause more harm to the US than a couple decades of our diplomatic cables being dumped onto the Internet.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;41455003]Somehow I doubt it could really cause more harm to the US than a couple decades of our diplomatic cables being dumped onto the Internet.[/QUOTE]
who knows what he had access to in there. maybe 9/11 was an inside job or something and now there is evidence. or maybe obama got a blowjob from biden on the campaign trail, or the usa has a giant weather machine.
idk what it is but if it's good enough to act as insurance for snowden i find the contents very interesting already.
[QUOTE=DVH;41453001]Snowden uses this information to keep himself alive. It's basically a hostage situation, he's keeping this information as a bargaining chip.[/QUOTE]
That's exactly my point. If the information he's keeping is more evidence of the government overstepping its bounds, then by holding on to it he's keeping that information from the public for the sake of his own safety. Considering that he put himself at enormous risk to reveal the information he has released in the first place, that doesn't seem consistent with his behavior so far. If, on the other hand, the information he's keeping is just secret data that would not be whistleblowing, then releasing it could jeopardize his image as a whistleblower.
And either way, the US government doesn't care whether he has data or not, because they're not going to sit by and let a single guy hold them hostage for as long as he has the laptops, which could be forever.
[QUOTE=catbarf;41455275]That's exactly my point. If the information he's keeping is more evidence of the government overstepping its bounds, then by holding on to it he's keeping that information from the public for the sake of his own safety. Considering that he put himself at enormous risk to reveal the information he has released in the first place, that doesn't seem consistent with his behavior so far. If, on the other hand, the information he's keeping is just secret data that would not be whistleblowing, then releasing it could jeopardize his image as a whistleblower.
And either way, the US government doesn't care whether he has data or not, because they're not going to sit by and let a single guy hold them hostage for as long as he has the laptops, which could be forever.[/QUOTE]
it's not perfectly consistent, but it's acceptable. i mean snowden did risk a lot to leak info, but i don't think he intends to die or get life in prison over it. he has an understandable concern for his own continued existence.
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i mean there isn't really anything snowden could release that wouldn't be "whistleblowing". security routines, troop positions, etc., can all easily be changed. the only thing i can think of that would be a very serious issue is if snowden had a list of active cia and nsa agents throughout the world, their location, and their mission.
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