[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;22408732]I'll stick with drinking pop.[/QUOTE]
Caffeinated beverages taste so good when you're high, just fyi
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[QUOTE=mastermaul;22409210]Yay my city is in facepunch news.
Both shops in town were graffiti'd and had Molotov Cocktails thrown through the windows.[/QUOTE]
Reminds me of the people who firebomb abortion clinics and shit
despicable.
[QUOTE=creefer;22409366]Most of the time [I]it is[/I].[/QUOTE]
no it isn't
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;22408732]I'll stick with drinking pop.[/QUOTE]
I gave up pop. Shit makes me irritable as hell. I'm having a hard time quitting it too. Caffeine's a lot more addictive than I thought.
[QUOTE=tomahawk2;22409068]Physical and mental addictions are two totally different things. Are you saying that trained psychologists and doctors, people who do daily research about the human brain, are wrong?[/QUOTE]
That or have been doing to much mary jane. To make a physical addiction you need to have some neural logic. Meaning? Mental Addiction aswell. Addiction is addiction.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;22421529]That or have been doing to much mary jane. To make a physical addiction you need to have some neural logic. Meaning? Mental Addiction aswell. Addiction is addiction.[/QUOTE]
Your a fucking moron.
Mental addiction is the idea that your MIND, not brain wants the drug, that you get for example depressed when you haven't got your fix is a mental addiction, where as that may be entirely absent and instead you could maybe just have itchy skin and that could be the only symptom of addiction, which would be physical.
Don't assume that because you have either mental or physical addiction you MUST have the other.
But you are right, either way addiction is addiction.
EDIT:Just because it's a nice little related graph
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/Rational_scale_to_assess_the_harm_of_drugs_(mean_physical_harm_and_mean_dependence).svg[/img]
[QUOTE=bravehat;22421629]Your a fucking moron.
Mental addiction is the idea that your MIND, not brain wants the drug, that you get for example depressed when you haven't got your fix is a mental addiction, where as that may be entirely absent and instead you could maybe just have itchy skin and that could be the only symptom of addiction, which would be physical.
Don't assume that because you have either mental or physical addiction you MUST have the other.
But you are right, either way addiction is addiction.
EDIT:Just because it's a nice little related graph
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/Rational_scale_to_assess_the_harm_of_drugs_(mean_physical_harm_and_mean_dependence).svg[/img][/QUOTE]
Thats not the best graph. It gets a point across, but a lot of those places need to change, its like they took common conceptions of the damage of certain drugs and plotted them based on that.
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[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;22421529]That or have been doing to much mary jane. To make a physical addiction you need to have some neural logic. Meaning? Mental Addiction aswell. Addiction is addiction.[/QUOTE]
Please stop arguing this, you're wrong.
Caffeine overdose kills more people a year than marijuana.
addiction is for the weak.
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[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;22396781]You can be addicted to anything[/QUOTE]
This pretty sums up everything, I don't really care what all the different kinds of shit drugs out there do to you. I just care about how much you get addicted to it.
Marijuana, no chemical/physical addiction. That might be true, but there is still that mental addiction, which is probably worse than the chemical one. What I see as mental addiction is, for an example when you smoke marijuana, afterward you will feel a bit down/depressed and feels like you want to smoke some more. That is my definition of mental addiction. Oh and someone will probably quote me and say that they aren't addicted, sure to what they can sense. But even if it's an small addiction. It's still an addiction, and even how "strong" you are, you will get affected/addicted (as I said, even if it's small), that goes for everything. No one can say that "I'm myself, I will never be affected by anyone or anything. I have always been myself". That statement is so false, that's it's sick (I know this is a bit offtopic, but wait for it), the persons you know, the YOU that you know. Is all formed by our people around us, by our cultures, standards, media. The person I am know, is someone that evolved because of myself, and everything around me. This rule goes for addictions too, no matter how much you say that you're not addicted. You still want to smoke it right? Otherwise you wouldn't? So what, if it's a small addiction?
But don't get me wrong or so, keep smoking your pot and be happy. Just don't forget to PRODUCE, they allow any drug(s) that will keep you producing (I really hope someone gets the reference).
[QUOTE=IAmAnooB;22424703]This pretty sums up everything, I don't really care what all the different kinds of shit drugs out there do to you. I just care about how much you get addicted to it.
Marijuana, no chemical/physical addiction. That might be true, but there is still that mental addiction, which is probably worse than the chemical one. With the chemical one, you only need to detox yourself.
But you can't do that so easily with Marijuana, DEPENDING on how strong your self-control is will affect your addiction. But even the people with the strongest self-control, will get eventually an addiction to it, even if it's really small.
But don't get me wrong or so, keep smoking your pot and be happy. Just don't forget to PRODUCE, they allow any drug(s) that will keep you producing (I really hope someone gets the reference).[/QUOTE]
Chemical addictions are not as simple as a detox. Dont even fool yourself.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;22424815]Chemical addictions are not as simple as a detox. Dont even fool yourself.[/QUOTE]
Sure, but my point is. It's PROBABLY easier than a mental addiction.
[QUOTE=IAmAnooB;22424927]Sure, but my point is. It's PROBABLY easier than a mental addiction.[/QUOTE]
Really? You know nothing of addiction. At all. Mental addictions are harder to break in a way, but they are not as painful, or as life threatening.
Chemical addiction, you go through painful, physical withdrawals. Symptoms of heroin withdrawal: Bone crawls(A burning itching sensation in the bones that hurts more than anything you've ever felt), nausea, fever, sweats, insomnia, and a laundry list of ones just as bad. Oxycontin withdrawal: Death, all heroin symptoms, and others stretching from heart failure to liver failure. Caffeine withdrawal: Headaches, stomach cramp, fever, fatigue, etc.
Yes, mental addictions are bad, and hard to break, or more take longer to break, but they are not as bad, as hard, or as painful to get over as a physical addiction.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;22425109]Really? You know nothing of addiction. At all. Mental addictions are harder to break in a way, but they are not as painful, or as life threatening.
Chemical addiction, you go through painful, physical withdrawals. Symptoms of heroin withdrawal: Bone crawls(A burning itching sensation in the bones that hurts more than anything you've ever felt), nausea, fever, sweats, insomnia, and a laundry list of ones just as bad. Oxycontin withdrawal: Death, all heroin symptoms, and others stretching from heart failure to liver failure. Caffeine withdrawal: Headaches, stomach cramp, fever, fatigue, etc.
Yes, mental addictions are bad, and hard to break, or more take longer to break, but they are not as bad, as hard, or as painful to get over as a physical addiction.[/QUOTE]
That's what I meant. I didn't imply that chemical addictions aren't bad at all. All I said was that, it's probably harder to get RID of a mental addiction. But chemical addictions, are as you said. Probably much worse in the withdraw.
[QUOTE=BrainDeath;22396656]Incoming angry potheads pretending that they arn't addicted.[/QUOTE]
Because you can get addicted to marijuana.
:downs:
[QUOTE=FPChris;22425464]Because you can get addicted to marijuana.
:downs:[/QUOTE]
No chemical addiction that is :).
[QUOTE=Lazor;22421177]no it isn't[/QUOTE]
In a way, it is. No matter how good a person's argument is against another person, that other person is not going to change their opinion on the subject.
[QUOTE=skynrdfan2;22426967]In a way, it is. No matter how good a person's argument is against another person, that other person is not going to change their opinion on the subject.[/QUOTE]
...No, people change their minds. People may want to stick with their opinions, but most people are rational, and change their minds based on whats presented.
Why can't the whole world just take in a deep breath of the smoke and be happy?
[QUOTE=Upgrade123;22428368]Why can't the whole world just take in a deep breath of the smoke and be happy?[/QUOTE]
bcuz it make the cancers :downs:
Saying that you can get mentally addicted to pot is fear-mongering at best. You can get mentally addicted to anything. Pot isn't any better or worse for mental addictions then say, WoW, Facepunch or fapping.
The only reason I say it is because when I say it's non addicting in a debate, I would be called out for not having my facts 100%.
This is just based on the debates I did when I was on the team in high school mind you
[QUOTE=skynrdfan2;22426967]In a way, it is. No matter how good a person's argument is against another person, that other person is not going to change their opinion on the subject.[/QUOTE]
this statement assumes a dichotomy where you can only agree or disagree
what about the undecided?
the uninformed?
and not to mention the fact that people can and will change their minds
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[QUOTE=CjienX;22428709]The only reason I say it is because when I say it's non addicting in a debate, I would be called out for not having my facts 100%.
This is just based on the debates I did when I was on the team in high school mind you[/QUOTE]
high school policy debate is pretty much a sham just letting you know(college as well)
[QUOTE=Upgrade123;22428368]Why can't the whole world just take in a deep breath of the smoke and be happy?[/QUOTE]
Because that's the douchiest solution to solving problems ever made
[QUOTE=Lazor;22428861]this statement assumes a dichotomy where you can only agree or disagree
what about the undecided?
the uninformed?
and not to mention the fact that people can and will change their minds
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high school policy debate is pretty much a shame just letting you know(college as well)[/QUOTE]
I know, I really only did impromptu debates in competition, but during meetings we would all have to do impromptu and policy, and then the people that wanted to do the crazy advanced shit did that among themselves on their own time. I really only did it because I'm very argumentative, so debate would be perfect for me. Especially impromptu because all you really do is pull things out of your ass make it convincing.
[QUOTE=Lazor;22428861]high school policy debate is pretty much a shame just letting you know(college as well)[/QUOTE]
You mean sham?
yeah
weed isnt harmless
weed causes no long term health issues
weed is illegal
facts
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[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;22427073]...No, people change their minds. People may want to stick with their opinions, but most people are rational, and change their minds based on whats presented.[/QUOTE]
Most people are rational? I beg to differ. Yes, many people will change their mind over time about issues they have strong opinions on, but when people get old they typically seem to be more stuck in what they believe. Ideally it would be best for people to look at evidence and form their own opinion on matters, but instead they just hear other opinions, agree with it, and accept it.
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