• The Washington Post says Tony Abbott is becoming the world's most hated prime minister
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[QUOTE=Sitkero;44887488]Sounds oddly familiar[/QUOTE] Funny thing is that we have other fairly parties, and the last government was made up by a mix of 3 parties and independents, but nobody ever wants to vote for anybody other than the main 2 parties for whatever reason. People complains about only having a 2 party system, then they never vote for any party outside the main two. It could be better, but the idea that we've only got 2 choices is just wrong.
[QUOTE=Tibbolax;44884800]How did he get voted into office?[/QUOTE] "ooh ahh, we've got an alright party in office but infighting wah instability wah let's vote for the other one and see how it turns out" "oh fuck how did end up like this which dumbass voted for abbott help us"
Well I just learnt by July 1st, we will have to pay for our Doctor Visits, we don't cause of Medicare, but since we will have to we will lose more food money that we save up, that and among other things. Yay...
He's an arrogant, argumentative asshole who slurs and slanders about his simple sentences, utterly lost up his own arse as he preaches to his parish of pedants that he is both pundit and professor when he lacks the wisdom, worldliness, and plain and simple civility to pass for either. The callous callouts and ignorant indignations he hurls towards anyone with an opposing opinion to Australia's future, and the sickening cynicism, condescension and mockery with which he addresses youth and even the elder people of Australia is appalling at best and at worst collectively lowers the decency and intelligence of whatever debate he participates in. That he has managed to become even a recognisable world figure, let alone one of the Prime Ministers of Australia is nothing short of mind-boggling, I just want him GONE.
Budget hasn't passed yet so don't worry
[QUOTE=Xonax;44893509]Well I just learnt by July 1st, we will have to pay for our Doctor Visits, we don't cause of Medicare, but since we will have to we will lose more food money that we save up, that and among other things. Yay...[/QUOTE] July 1st 2015. You still have thirteen months without the $7 payment. I don't like the budget but at least get your facts right. It's asshole-ish (or to put it another way, unethical) to charge for access to healthcare, but to be honest I don't see how it breaks family budgets unless you visit your GP every time you stub your toe. Even if I were to visit my GP once per week, as someone who lives by himself and is a supermarket bitch, I could easily re-align my budgets for that $7 without cutting into any of my other expenditures. I'm still against the co-payment though; even if it were to be $1 instead I still wouldn't support it. [editline]24th May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=TheDecryptor;44892832]Funny thing is that we have other fairly parties, and the last government was made up by a mix of 3 parties and independents, but nobody ever wants to vote for anybody other than the main 2 parties for whatever reason. People complains about only having a 2 party system, then they never vote for any party outside the main two. It could be better, but the idea that we've only got 2 choices is just wrong.[/QUOTE] Our voting system (for the House) is inherently majoritarian. Just because we have preferenced voting doesn't mean it breaks from that two-party system. We won't get more parties in the house unless we change the way we vote for them.
Whilst every nation has its problems and we certainly hear more about our own issues than we do of overseas ones (such as a construction project in some American State being a colossal fuck up, but you dont hear about it if you live in Canada), it still seems to bother me that throughout my entire life we've had nothing but absolutely terrible leaders. Of course there is always going to be criticism, but left-right and center, virtually everybody I've ever heard from speak of political matters has absolutely hated John Howard, Kevin Rudd, Pointy-Nose Gillard and Abbott. Its easy to point the finger at the 'figurehead' of the Government when it may not entirely be their fault, but at the end of the day, they signed up for the job and its up to them to make an impression upon the people that they are working in our best interest(s). When they never are. The country V-line railworks has been an utter disaster, having supposed to be finished over a decade ago and yet its still not even remotely close to completion. The civil transport authority is pushing the government for huge grants to build road after highway after road that, to me, we simply dont need - which they then slap tolls on to make up for the immense cost of building it - which nobody uses anyway because its a toll road. The huge huff and fuss about the asylum seekers. The fact that they keep cutting back on civil services such as transport, healthcare and any 'business' such as imports and exports. The fact that our internet infrastructure, as a nation, is a decade or more behind the US with faulty services, a colossal amount of legal bollocks due to the Telstra-monopoly breakup and the ensuing fuss it makes with every residual proprietor down the line. I know its easy to point at problems and complain when in reality, other folks might say you have little to worry about in comparison to THEIR problems - but - I've lived in Australia since birth for 20 of my 22 years. For only 2 years I lived in England and to be completely honest, it was a hell of a lot better there. I also visited other nations during that time such as France, Germany, Morocco and Italy. But Aus? Fuck this place and its incompetent leaders. Everywhere you turn there is non-stop hatred towards whoever we vote in office.
[QUOTE=Antdawg;44894325] Our voting system (for the House) is inherently majoritarian. Just because we have preferenced voting doesn't mean it breaks from that two-party system. We won't get more parties in the house unless we change the way we vote for them.[/QUOTE] Personally I think most people still don't understand how preferential voting works and thus only vote for a party that has a chance to win so they 'don't waste their vote'.
[QUOTE=download;44913490]Personally I think most people still don't understand how preferential voting works and thus only vote for a party that has a chance to win so they 'don't waste their vote'.[/QUOTE] I don't doubt that alot of people do not understand how our voting system works, you don't learn about it in school. But given the amount of media attention allocated to the larger parties and that they represent common political stances, I can understand why they are popular. Still, even if more people were likely to give their first preferences to independents and small party candidates, our system (for the House) would still lack minority representation and give total power to the majority. [editline]27th May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Venrez;44912979]whinging[/quote] I never understood what was wrong about Howard or Rudd.
Neither did I. I never said I closely followed politics. Kevin seemed okay to me, for the most part. But the point I am making is that everywhere you turn, everybody is bitching about the current leader. You walk past news agencies with their front windows plastered with 'HE DID THIS' and 'SHE DID THAT' in such an accusatory tone. You've got the news on TV constantly filled with the same stuff. You've got it on the radio. You've got it on any Australian media websites. You find the same stuff in fliers handed out by those annoying people standing at Train Station exits. You find the same stuff on ads pasted on posters inside the same trains as 'advertisement'. It seems to be that the nation as a whole hates its leader, whoever it might be. Sure enough, all countries have their own problems, but the fact is here in Aus that there is an endless backlog of everybody complaining about everything in specific accusatory aim towards the current ruling party.
Well, i hate him anyway!
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;44884563]well he certainly looks the part. :v: [IMG]http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2013/03/21/1226602/056997-tony-abbott.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Well, at least it looks like he could be a really good prime minister/villain in a Bond movie or something like that. Reminds me of Hugo Weaving for some reason.
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