Controversy over decision to bar couple from fostering because of UKIP membership - Polidicks

Bees have genuine differences between them, not just different coloured skin.

So do humans. You're grossly oversimplifying the purpose of classifying genetic lines. Ethnicity can't do this because it's about culture, according to you and thisispain.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;38581571]Bees have genuine differences between them, not just different coloured skin.[/QUOTE] Ignoring how silly it is to say that skin colour isn't a difference; what about eye shape?

[QUOTE=Scrappa;38580601][B]UKIP beat the Liberal Democrats in the recent Police Elections, smashed them in the Corby By-election and came very close or beat them in the other by-elections.[/B] In popularity they are the third party but by representation we will have to wait until 2014 and 2015. They are currently 2nd in the European Parliament, maybe will make 1st in 2014 and I think in 2015 we could see the first UKIP MP. UKIP are the third party in my eyes, even if you don't agree and think it should be based on representation we will wait until 2015 when hopefully UKIP can gain a foothold in Westminster. Also Sobotnik is bang on.[/QUOTE] Huh? UKIP [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corby_by-election,_2012#Result]did come third in Corby[/url], but the Lib Dems [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England_and_Wales_Police_and_Crime_Commissioner_elections,_2012#Results]beat them[/url] in the police elections and they came [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_Central_by-election,_2012]fourth[/url] and [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardiff_South_and_Penarth_by-election,_2012]fifth[/url] in the other by-elections. I'm not sure how to measure 'popularity' but the Lib Dems have 49,000 members while UKIP has 19,000

[QUOTE=thisispain;38581342]forget imagining it its written in that wikipedia article omg[/QUOTE] Don't worry, I read it and it was very interesting. Not really sure why that one guy decided that types of humour were a good differentiator for races.

[QUOTE=teh pirate;38581368]You're telling me that classifcation of things that are different from yourself comes from some innate desire to oppress those things?[/QUOTE] yes that's exactly what i'm saying good job

[QUOTE=smurfy;38581787]Huh? UKIP [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corby_by-election,_2012#Result]did come third in Corby[/url], but the Lib Dems [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England_and_Wales_Police_and_Crime_Commissioner_elections,_2012#Results]beat them[/url] in the police elections and they came [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_Central_by-election,_2012]fourth[/url] and [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardiff_South_and_Penarth_by-election,_2012]fifth[/url] in the other by-elections. I'm not sure how to measure 'popularity' but the Lib Dems have 49,000 members while UKIP has 19,000[/QUOTE] In the 19 constituencies that UKIP and the Lib Dems both stood in UKIP beat them in 10 of the 19. The amount of members that a party has doesn't reflect how much of the vote they get or how much of the public would actually vote for them, opinion polls put UKIP ahead of the Lib Dems more often than behind them. They keep swapping around with 10% and 9%.

[QUOTE=thisispain;38580959]i think you're being a bit too broad and unfair he didn't say there were no genetic differences between populations of people. he pretty much agrees with you just worded differently. obviously there are genetic differences between populations of people but the conceptions of race and what races mean and so forth existed far before any proper understanding of genetics. to say race is a social construct is true.[/QUOTE] ty for the correction; you're right, I had ethnicity and race mixed up [editline]25th November 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=thisispain;38581267]if i was merely implying it then yes i haven't been my job properly of course it has purely villainous intent!!! the entire idea of race was born out of incredible colonialist and racist ideology furthered by an extremely poor understanding of science. Race during this time period meant charts which placed the desirable traits of the "White" race at the top and compared them to the undesirable traits of the races Europeans met in their travels. before you try to say i'm just being "politically correct" or "over left-wing" (i've been accused of both before), please actually read the texts which created these understandings of race. they date back to this dreadful colonialist racist time period in science. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(human_classification)#Historical_origins_of_racial_classification[/url] this baggage behind the concept of race didn't just appear one day[/QUOTE] wait what if I support colonialism but am against racism

[QUOTE=Turnips5;38577096]he confused nobody, but according to [URL="http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Nigel_Farage"]wikiquote[/URL] it's disputed whether or not Nigel Farage actually said that[/QUOTE] Fair enough but the more I read about that the more I think its an attempt at slander, and I am saying this from a completely unbiased outsider view. (I just realised how hard that might be to believe given that I have a quote of his as my title...) I can't understand why he would say it in the first place, his problem is with the EU and the increasing federalisation of Europe. Which on a side note is why I wonder why people call him racist, being opposed to the EU doesn't make someone racist surely. There are a lot of people on here that are against the EU, against open borders and against the fact that anyone in the EU can move anywhere and live and work. I wouldn't call them racist.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;38578471]I'd say their hatred of immigration and being part of the EU is a testament to that.[/QUOTE] Since when did not wanting to be a part of the EU equal racism?