Yeah, I think I'll give this one a miss. If everyone can just download knowledge to their minds then this world is going to become a very boring or very dangerous place to live in.
I don't like this one bit, on one hand it could do some good, on another hand it can be abused severely and used for literal brainwashing. I doubt it would take nothing and one of these can fuck up your brain bad.
Unless this works where you can only add information, and not manipulate or destroy existing information.
[QUOTE=Socram;49849279]Am I the only one who doesn't love the sound of the fantastical sci fi version of this, as infantile and sensational as this article may be?
To me there is a lot of value and pride in the time and EFFORT it takes for skills to develop or complex topics to be understood. They're hard for a reason and while I'm entirely supportive of easier access to necessary information (I'm a self taught programmer and multi instrumentalist thanks to the internet, but I've worked my ass off for both) the thought of ANYONE with enough money being able to master a given domain, or all domains drives down their value and I feel make it all seem rather meaningless. Not to mention that this will almost certainly go to the rich before it is available to the masses.
In summary, and quoting The Incredibles, "When everyone is special, nobody is." If every person out there with money can just download the understanding of high level Calculus, master an instrument, become an incredible painter, etc with no effort no one is going to give a shit about any of it. people will be come even lazier, and the separation of the have and have nots will grow even further. Hard work will completely be taken out of the equation.[/QUOTE]
You're missing some very important details. Just because you have the knowledge doesn't mean you comprehend that knowledge. I could go memorize advanced calculus forumulas all day long but it's utterly meaningless if I don't understand what it means in the first place. And secondly knowledge is not the same as experience. Simulating experience isn't something we're going to be able to really accomplish any time soon because it's a lot more complicated than just feeding knowledge into someone's mind.
[QUOTE=Socram;49849279]Am I the only one who doesn't love the sound of the fantastical sci fi version of this, as infantile and sensational as this article may be?
To me there is a lot of value and pride in the time and EFFORT it takes for skills to develop or complex topics to be understood. They're hard for a reason and while I'm entirely supportive of easier access to necessary information (I'm a self taught programmer and multi instrumentalist thanks to the internet, but I've worked my ass off for both) the thought of ANYONE with enough money being able to master a given domain, or all domains drives down their value and I feel make it all seem rather meaningless. Not to mention that this will almost certainly go to the rich before it is available to the masses.
In summary, and quoting The Incredibles, "When everyone is special, nobody is." If every person out there with money can just download the understanding of high level Calculus, master an instrument, become an incredible painter, etc with no effort no one is going to give a shit about any of it. people will be come even lazier, and the separation of the have and have nots will grow even further. Hard work will completely be taken out of the equation.[/QUOTE]
That's a pretty snobbish and entitled opinion to have. When it comes to things like hobbies, I half agree with you. Gaining a skill can be more fun than just having it would be, and it would really help toward having an appreciation of that knowledge. Although, I believe to each their own.
You're also forgetting that you never stop learning. Even if I could download the knowledge of a master artist, I would continue to improve upon that skill as a basis for future growth.
more like improving learning rather than learning learning
[QUOTE=Kill001;49850265]What would be cool is if you could upload certain personality changing things
Like something to alter your psyche
I would totally upload something to stop me from being lazy :v:[/QUOTE]
That's what I was thinking. This could actually be very useful as a psychological therapy technique; helping people learn coping strategies for things like anxiety, depression, helping them to overcome serious phobias, etc. Right now, it's helping them learn piloting skills... but one day, who knows?
[QUOTE=Mkt778;49850505]As somebody who has had dyscalculia their whole life I'd really like to just have a basic concept/understanding of math uploaded to me, if that were possible. From what I understand this machine accelerates learning, not giving you kung-fu right away. That'd still take a bit of practice with and without the machine.[/QUOTE]
I feel exactly the same. I've always felt like people think I'm dumb because I've got a lot of trouble with anything above regular division.
[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;49850309]Yeah, I think I'll give this one a miss. If everyone can just download knowledge to their minds then this world is going to become a very boring or very dangerous place to live in.[/QUOTE]
Yes I love it when people abuse others on superstition and misinformation, and support harmful political ideas out of ignorance.
(implanting ideas into brains is not something anybody rather than an aspiring dictator would support, abundance of information allows us to be more critical about it and this kind of technology would be useful to boost learning and teaching to curb general ignorance)
[QUOTE=Talishmar;49850651]Yes I love it when people abuse others on superstition and misinformation, and support harmful political ideas out of ignorance.
(implanting ideas into brains is not something anybody rather than an aspiring dictator would support, abundance of information allows us to be more critical about it and this kind of technology would be useful to boost learning and teaching to curb general ignorance)[/QUOTE]
Just because people have access to a vast range of knowledge, doesn't mean that stupid opinions will become extinct. We have at our fingertips one of the greatest information tools ever created, yet people are still ignorant. Why? Because they seek out the information that supports their ideals and entrench themselves with it. So if anything we'll just have smarter morons saying stupid shit.
[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;49850686]Just because people have access to a vast range of knowledge, doesn't mean that stupid opinions will become extinct. We have at our fingertips one of the greatest information tools ever created, yet people are still ignorant. Why? Because they seek out the information that supports their ideals and entrench themselves with it. So if anything we'll just have smarter morons saying stupid shit.[/QUOTE]
Stupid opinions are not exclusively because of entrenched ideals, but also lack of interest and effort to learn about things. If learning becomes easier, these kind of people will be more inclined to learn.
The juxtaposition of "stupid" and "smart" people has existed since forever, but free distribution of information will always give more tools to be educated and critical. You can distribute falsehoods just as well, but in the end more people will believe something that's verifiable rather than something that's not.
In a democracy, I think this is why it's important that education reaches the lower classes as well as the higher ones.
[QUOTE=Jager_57;49850393]That's a pretty snobbish and entitled opinion to have. When it comes to things like hobbies, I half agree with you. Gaining a skill can be more fun than just having it would be, and it would really help toward having an appreciation of that knowledge. Although, I believe to each their own.
You're also forgetting that you never stop learning. Even if I could download the knowledge of a master artist, I would continue to improve upon that skill as a basis for future growth.[/QUOTE]
Imagine, instead of learning the same effort could be spent in picking up where the old masters left off and getting even better, and what you do with the skills/knowledge is up to your own creativity. (That's basically what science and education are about now that I think of it)
Cant wait for the first edition of Norton anti virus for the brain to stop those pesky popups and unauthorised registry key changes.
[QUOTE=Socram;49849279]Am I the only one who doesn't love the sound of the fantastical sci fi version of this, as infantile and sensational as this article may be?
To me there is a lot of value and pride in the time and EFFORT it takes for skills to develop or complex topics to be understood. They're hard for a reason and while I'm entirely supportive of easier access to necessary information (I'm a self taught programmer and multi instrumentalist thanks to the internet, but I've worked my ass off for both) the thought of ANYONE with enough money being able to master a given domain, or all domains drives down their value and I feel make it all seem rather meaningless. Not to mention that this will almost certainly go to the rich before it is available to the masses.
In summary, and quoting The Incredibles, "When everyone is special, nobody is." If every person out there with money can just download the understanding of high level Calculus, master an instrument, become an incredible painter, etc with no effort no one is going to give a shit about any of it. people will be come even lazier, and the separation of the have and have nots will grow even further. Hard work will completely be taken out of the equation.[/QUOTE]
You can remove art from that equation immediately. Technical proficiency doesn't make you a good artist.
When they can download it, you'll be required to submit your memories for inspection to see if you haven't committed any crimes.
Sounds like a natural progression for us.
We won't stop until we can classify ourselves as a new species.
[QUOTE=Govna;49850572]That's what I was thinking. This could actually be very useful as a psychological therapy technique; helping people learn coping strategies for things like anxiety, depression, helping them to overcome serious phobias, etc. Right now, it's helping them learn piloting skills... but one day, who knows?[/QUOTE]
Perhaps we could cure sociopaths, give them empathy? End most crime? At least ones born from nurture.
This sounds so unreal, but it does sound more feasible when viewing it as being able to help us learn things faster rather than just instantly. Sounds like an amazing prospect of saving time (especially when we have limited life spans)
Instantly inform voters, instant schooling, instant job training better therapy effectiveness, the good possibilities are endless!
But this could also be bad, if you download too much info you could fuck up your brain, and it might kill video games and sports, if everyone is really good skill is no longer a factor.
It needs to be controlled and used responsibly.
[QUOTE=MuTAnT;49849027]33% sounds like a pretty decent improvement to start with.
I was bummed when they referred to the Matrix as classic sci-fi. It ain't that old man![/QUOTE]
This going to be difficult for you to hear... the Matrix is 17 years old.
[QUOTE=Smug Bastard;49849158]Make me a test subject so I can pass my college math classes please.[/QUOTE]
hahahaha
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[editline]2nd March 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;49851532]This going to be difficult for you to hear... the Matrix is 17 years old.[/QUOTE]
17? But I am 22 years old and I ...
I just realized our national TV is lagging behind world
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