Ouya to launch with NES, SNES, and N64 emulation - Polidicks

[QUOTE=The golden;40040155]I have zero experience with HDMI so I apologize if this is a retarded question - but can those be used with a PC monitor in any way? (either HDMI slot or some adapter?)[/QUOTE] Yes. If your monitor has an HDMI port it'll just plug right in. If not, you'll need an adapter. Most HD monitors with speakers have HDMI ports. Nearly every HD TV on the market today has an HDMI port. [editline]25th March 2013[/editline] Liliputing seems to speak highly of the UG007. It's got the same specs as my T.V. stick (which I can attest to being quite adequate) except with Bluetooth and 8GB storage. [url]liliputing.com/2012/10/ug007-tv-stick-features-bluetooth-android-4-1-dual-core-cpu.html[/url]

So the major highlight of the console is that it is ready to play games that even mentioning how to get will get you banned for piracy? Sure, when we all know where we can get our "backups" it's okay to be hush-hush but that isn't something you want to have printed on the side of the box.

[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;40039316]No, it's just a generic Android device. You can buy an Android TV stick for half the price that is literally the exact same thing. Buy a bluetooth controller with it and you basically have an Ouya. Don't get me wrong, $99 is not bad for a living room Android PC with controllers. But it is [i][b]way[/i][/b] over hyped. There are tons of $40-$100 Android TV Sticks. Just look on Amazon. [url]http://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-MK808B-Android-Rockchip-Cortex-A9/dp/B00ALSZNLW[/url] [url]http://liliputing.com/2012/10/ug007-tv-stick-features-bluetooth-android-4-1-dual-core-cpu.html[/url] [url]http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Delectronics&field-keywords=android+tv+stick&rh=n%3A172282%2Ck%3Aandroid+tv+stick[/url] These are all fully capable of playing most if not all Android games and emulators, just like the Ouya. You can connect any PS3 controller to almost any Android with Bluetooth, which is effectively the same as having an Ouya controller. All you need is [url=https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dancingpixelstudios.sixaxiscontroller&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5kYW5jaW5ncGl4ZWxzdHVkaW9zLnNpeGF4aXNjb250cm9sbGVyIl0.]this[/url] app. Or, just go out and buy a $20 bluetooth controller.[/QUOTE] being over-hyped doesn't hinder it at all for me, im most likely going to buy this. even though it's nowhere near as fun as building up a collection

this reeks of desperation on ouya's part

[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;40040557]being over-hyped doesn't hinder it at all for me, im most likely going to buy this. even though it's nowhere near as fun as building up a collection[/QUOTE] I won't tell you that buying an Ouya is a bad choice, because $100 really isn't a bad price for what you're getting. But it seems that most people who are planning on buying the Ouya are going to be let down by what they actually get.

[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;40039372]If you don't want an Android phone or tablet, you don't want an Ouya. [/QUOTE] that isn't necessarily true. what if you're totally content with your iphone but want to play emulators, browse the internet, watch videos or whatever else on your tv? obviously theres no reason to get this if you already own an android since the tv stick is the same and costs less but the ouya itself is cheaper than getting an android phone/tablet, the tv stick and a controller, so if you don't actually have all those things the ouya is quite a good value

[QUOTE=Y'all.;40040773]that isn't necessarily true. what if you're totally content with your iphone but want to play emulators, browse the internet, watch videos or whatever else on your tv? obviously theres no reason to get this if you already own an android since the tv stick is the same and costs less but the ouya itself is cheaper than getting an android phone/tablet, the tv stick and a controller, so if you don't actually have all those things the ouya is quite a good value[/QUOTE] I have three android phones, a Windows 7/Android tablet, a 25 inch monitor, and no wireless controller. I really just want whatever is going to perform better. Which would be the best investment? [QUOTE=JohnnyOnFlame;40041106]OUYA has the best performance when it comes to these table-top crap, with the bonus of shipping with a controller. The TV-Stick will cost you 40$+ a bluetooth controller.[/QUOTE] I did like the fact it has Nvidia chip(s) and from what I heard it is mostly all open source which will make it more modifiable. I will wait until its out for a bit and make my choice. Thanks for input! Fuck me for buying a Rezound and not being able to use my ps3 controller with it.

[QUOTE=cani;40041048]I have three android phones, a Windows 7/Android tablet, a 25 inch monitor, and no wireless controller. I really just want whatever is going to perform better. Which would be the best investment?[/QUOTE] OUYA has the best performance when it comes to these table-top crap, with the bonus of shipping with a controller. The TV-Stick will cost you 40$+ a bluetooth controller.

So you get a NES, SNES, N64, HTPC (XBMC), Android computer, gaming console with controller, and the entire system is open source, for $99, and people are complaining? Times sure have changed. Are people expecting Ouya to try to compete with "full" console boxes or something? Because it's pretty obvious they're in different markets here. It's no wonder the gaming industry is as stagnant as it is if this is how we react to new, original ideas.

[QUOTE=mblunk;40041420]So you get a NES, SNES, N64, HTPC (XBMC), Android computer, gaming console with controller, and the entire system is open source, for $99, and people are complaining? Times sure have changed. Are people expecting Ouya to try to compete with "full" console boxes or something? Because it's pretty obvious they're in different markets here. It's no wonder the gaming industry is as stagnant as it is if this is how we react to new, original ideas.[/QUOTE] To be honest, I could just use my android phone, link up a ps3 or android-specific controller, and output to my tv. The ouya's os is open source, because android itself is open source. I don't expect the ouya to compete with the big boy consoles, but I also don't expect it to advertise features possible on a phone or even a cheap laptop, since emulation up to (and including) the n64 is possible on a pretty huge variety of devices nowadays. It doesn't take a lot of horse power to emulate the older game consoles, it was possible back in 2004, and it still is today.

[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;40039472]Here's my T.V. Stick. It costed $40. The size - [t]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22565769/IMAG0297.jpg[/t] Running Android - [t]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22565769/IMAG0299.jpg[/t] Running N64oid - [t]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22565769/IMAG0300.jpg[/t] [/QUOTE] how does OOT run on that? What framerate?

[QUOTE=Y'all.;40040773]that isn't necessarily true. what if you're totally content with your iphone but want to play emulators, browse the internet, watch videos or whatever else on your tv? obviously theres no reason to get this if you already own an android since the tv stick is the same and costs less but the ouya itself is cheaper than getting an android phone/tablet, the tv stick and a controller, so if you don't actually have all those things the ouya is quite a good value[/QUOTE] I don't think you quite understand. The TV Stick and Controller is the same price or less than the Ouya and it delivers almost exactly the same thing you'd expect out of the Ouya. I'm not saying the Ouya is a bad thing, I'm saying it's over hyped and things like it already exist [i]and[/i] are cheaper.

[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;40041590]I don't think you quite understand. The TV Stick and Controller is the same price or less than the Ouya and it delivers almost exactly the same thing you'd expect out of the Ouya. I'm not saying the Ouya is a bad thing, I'm saying it's over hyped and things like it already exist [i]and[/i] are cheaper.[/QUOTE] wait, the TV stick works without an android product?

[QUOTE=mblunk;40041420]So you get a NES, SNES, N64, HTPC (XBMC), Android computer, gaming console with controller, and the entire system is open source, for $99, and people are complaining? Times sure have changed. Are people expecting Ouya to try to compete with "full" console boxes or something? Because it's pretty obvious they're in different markets here. It's no wonder the gaming industry is as stagnant as it is if this is how we react to new, original ideas.[/QUOTE] Again, I'm not complaining. The problem is exactly as you say: people [i]are[/i] expecting it to compete with "full console boxes" and the like. Few people seem to realize this is just another Android device and that's it. It's not a bad price for what it is, but far too many people are expecting too much out of it. It is [b]not[/b] a "new, original" idea. This is the exact same as the T.V. sticks except it comes with a controller rather than needing to buy it separately. If you want to be more specific, there are Android emulators for the PSX, Sega, Sega Genesis, etc. as well. I made a whole thread about it. [editline]25th March 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Y'all.;40041609]wait, the TV stick works without an android product?[/QUOTE] Yes. It works completely independently of anything else. All you need is the included charging cord, and some input method. The input method could either be a USB keyboard & mouse (it can use wired ones but obviously wireless is preferred), or a bluetooth controller, which is fairly inexpensive. Like I mentioned before, you can even use a PS3 controller. If you DO have an Android device like a phone or tablet, then you can use Droidmote to control the TV Stick over WiFi. [editline]25th March 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=kanesenpai~;40041533]how does OOT run on that? What framerate?[/QUOTE] It takes a little tinkering, but if you disable fog and turn down the max frame skips, it runs at 30-60fps. The audio usually doesn't skip around too much. I get about the same performance on my HTC One X and my Kindle Fire running CM9. I've also tried it on my friend's One X+, which uses the same chip as the Ouya (the Tegra 3), and the performance was pretty similar. On that note, you wouldn't see better performance out of the Ouya if you were to run N64oid on it. The issue with the current N64 emulators for Android is one of optimization, not hardware performance.

i thought it just connected an android device to a TV, my mistake

[QUOTE=Y'all.;40041669]i thought it just connected an android device to a TV, my mistake[/QUOTE] It's quite alright, but yes, it is a totally independent device just like the Ouya. [editline].[/editline] Not to mention if you were to buy an Ouya controller, you could connect it to any Android or most bluetooth enabled devices. It's just a generic bluetooth controller like any other. They're way over priced to buy separately at the moment, though. Which is a shame, since the touchpad on the controller is a nice feature for using with a T.V. Box.

[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;40039472]Here's my T.V. Stick. It costed $40. The size - [t]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22565769/IMAG0297.jpg[/t] Running Android - [t]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22565769/IMAG0299.jpg[/t] Running N64oid - [t]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22565769/IMAG0300.jpg[/t] And that's all people are going to get out of an Ouya. [b]It's just another Android.[/b] The most it will have is a customized home screen. [editline]25th March 2013[/editline] Being that the Ouya runs on a barely (if at all) modified version of Android, it's going to be incredibly easy to get those Ouya games on to other devices. Either we'll be able to side load the apks, or just change the build prop to indicate it's an Ouya and load up the Ouya market apk. [editline].[/editline] The same thing goes for people who buy the Raspberry Pi to use as a cheap computer. Some models of T.V. Sticks (such as mine) support ARM Linux. For $40-$50 you get something with a Dual Core 1.6Ghz processor, 1GB of RAM, 8GB Storage, and WiFi and possibly Bluetooth built in. The Raspberry Pi is $30 and has a 700Mhz single core processor, 512MB of RAM, no built in WiFi or Bluetooth, and no SD Card included.[/QUOTE] Where did you get this? I'd love to have something like this as a cheapo roku or something to turn my boring old TV into a DNLA-streaming capable smart TV

[QUOTE=KorJax;40041764]Where did you get this? I'd love to have something like this as a cheapo roku or something to turn my boring old TV into a DNLA-streaming capable smart TV[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;40040084]The one I have in particular is available in the link below. I've got it running on a custom ROM for a more stock-like Android and root access, but the Android it comes with works just fine as well. [url]www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B009A6P2VC/ref=redir_mdp_mobile[/url] I bought it a year ago before the ones with Bluetooth were cheaply available. However, now there are tons for about the same price that include Bluetooth. I can't personally suggest one, but just look on Amazon and find one with good reviews. [url]www.amazon.com/gp/aw/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?rh=i%3Aelectronics%2Cn%3A172282%2Ck%3Aandroid+tv+stick&keywords=android+tv+stick&ie=UTF8[/url] Liliputing seems to speak highly of the UG007. It's got the same specs as my T.V. stick (which I can attest to being quite adequate) except with Bluetooth and 8GB storage. [url]liliputing.com/2012/10/ug007-tv-stick-features-bluetooth-android-4-1-dual-core-cpu.html[/url] [/QUOTE] :v: Also if you don't already own a wireless keyboard and mouse, try [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1PU0KM5699]this[/url] or [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823109236]this[/url] one. I personally use the second one, but I often lose my mouse when I'm using it in bed, so it's personal preference based on a touchpad or mouse I suppose. If your device doesn't support Bluetooth, you can use plug and play USB controllers as well. USB Controllers that require drivers will only partially work, or not at all. You'd be better off getting a T.V. Stick that supports Bluetooth.

[QUOTE=Unisath;40039246]You mean like a phone or tablet could do (with a cheap HDMI cable and a $10-$20 controller off of Amazon)? Seriously, there's no reason for this. If it was more powerful than a majority of the current Android systems (which, the last time I checked, it's pretty underpowered), it'd most certainly be worth it. But if you just get a tablet, you get all this plus the actual use of a tablet. Or, better yet, get a phone and you get it all plus the usefulness of a cell phone![/QUOTE] So can you point me to NES ready plug-in-TV set including the device (powerful enough to run the emulation), cable, and controller, for $99? I am interested.

This is a good idea to get some sales. Appeal to the familiar instead of trying to innovate. Once people have the system they'll enjoy the innovative nature of the "console". I've always had problem's with emulators on my PC's so this actually sound's appealing.

I predict a lot of people buying this who will start complaining that it doesn't work out of the box with every ROM ever made Getting perfect dark to run with mupen was a pain in the ass for me :v:

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;40043139]So can you point me to NES ready plug-in-TV set including the device (powerful enough to run the emulation), cable, and controller, for $99? I am interested.[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Mo81uEJ.jpg[/IMG] It's like 10 bucks and comes with 9999999 in 1 NES games. It's everything you just described too.

Isn't this kind of illegal for a company to do this? Like doesn't Nitendo something to sue them for? Also, I can do this just on the PC I got with a Xbox360 controller that I like more then the N64 controller(and yes I used the controller).

If anything, Ouya games do have the advantage of one consistent hardware configuration, which is the reason consoles can do so much with relatively little processing power (compared to PCs doing the same). It all depends on developers using that to their advantage and optimizing for the Ouya's specific set of hardware.

[QUOTE=darkzero226;40043345][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Mo81uEJ.jpg[/IMG] It's like 10 bucks and comes with 9999999 in 1 NES games. It's everything you just described too.[/QUOTE] Alright, and the N64 ones?

[QUOTE=RichyZ;40041433]this isnt a new original idea, plug and play android chips for tvs have been around for awhile hell, i could just usb my fucking phone into my tv or computer and do the same shit the ouya is planning to do[/QUOTE] why does it actually matter if you could do this before why do you care so much if a company brings out a similar product in a different package seriously, nobody cares if you can achieve the same thing though obscure means. they're bringing out a console for only $99 that works out of the box and includes a controller, and it's actually supported and going to be widely available so you're not having to buy it from cheapo chinese hardware stores online. that's way more appealing.

This is something I'd pay for I own a N64 since last year, been collecting games for it slowly but some are super hard to find. Been going into the same store a buncha times a week looking for pokemon stadium

[QUOTE=Valiantttt;40043475]Isn't this kind of illegal for a company to do this? Like doesn't Nitendo something to sue them for? Also, I can do this just on the PC I got with a Xbox360 controller that I like more then the N64 controller(and yes I used the controller).[/QUOTE] The company didn't develop the emulators, they're merely saying that people with devkits have got versions of popular android emulators running and people will be able to download them to their Ouya on day one. And it's not illegal if they're not shipping it with BIOS/ROMs, in fact there is going to be a marketplace for homebrew NES ROMs. And good for you!!! Some people don't want to drag their gaming PC to the living room to play Super Mario. [editline]26th March 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=WhatAmI;40043780]This is something I'd pay for I own a N64 since last year, been collecting games for it slowly but some are super hard to find. Been going into the same store a buncha times a week looking for pokemon stadium[/QUOTE] If you own n64 carts it'd be much better to get an actual n64, emulation is [B]far[/B] from perfect, specially on Android. I'd try [URL="http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5360.m570.l1313&_nkw=pokemon+stadium&_sacat=0&_from=R40"]eBay[/URL], Craigslist or even thirft shops instead of local stores.

[QUOTE=RichyZ;40044107]except it isnt obscure means, and what do you mean by "actually supported"?, the things on fucking android, anything is supported functionally.[/QUOTE] As in, a cheap android stick isn't going to be receiving many updates and fixes, if any at all. The "cheap chinese gadgets" market is loaded with these things, and there are so many different configurations. Even with popular ones like rikomagic, you'll have to buy a new stick if you want the latest android. At least with this there's just a single, simple device that receives full support. [quote]point is, the ouya isnt anything special, new, or interesting.[/quote] Why does this matter at all? if it's just like the devices you can already get, then why do you care so much that this is released as well? If this didn't have any popularity then people here would be fine with it, as it'd just be another cool, affordable android device.

I've got a question about those Android USB sticks. Is there one with a quad core processor and preferably 2 GB of ram? Also, how is the homebrew community for them? Do people make custom ROMs for them?