Komisarjevsky condemned to death in Cheshire home invasion case - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Tigster;33657005]If you're going to argue about how the death penalty doesn't solve problems, you should be arguing that locking someone in a cell for life doesn't solve anything either. Both are punishments without any sort of rehabilitation, and if you're going to be against one, you should be against all. In other words, I'd imagine you would have been more in favor of him being treated as opposed to simply left in prison. [/QUOTE] Don't try and put words in my mouth. You pulled "Let him rot" out of nowhere from my post where I actually said "Yes Killing solves everything". He should be punished for his actions with jail time and during that jail time should be rehabilitated.

[QUOTE=Vandel;33657480]Don't try and put words in my mouth. You pulled "Let him rot" out of nowhere from my post where I actually said "Yes Killing solves everything". He should be punished for his actions with jail time and during that jail time should be rehabilitated.[/QUOTE] To be fair, given the state of the US prison system, with a life in prison sentence, the last thing he would be is rehabilitated. More like forgotten.

[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;33657528]To be fair, given the state of the US prison system, with a life in prison sentence, the last thing he would be is rehabilitated. More like forgotten.[/QUOTE] That does not make death a better option.

[QUOTE=Vandel;33657480]Don't try and put words in my mouth. You pulled "Let him rot" out of nowhere from my post where I actually said "Yes Killing solves everything". He should be punished for his actions with jail time and during that jail time should be rehabilitated.[/QUOTE] I don't think you can rehabilitate a mind that murdered an entire family and laughs at it.

[QUOTE=Vandel;33657574]That does not make death a better option.[/QUOTE] Well since I'm completely against the death penalty, I'm just trying to level with you here.

I don't see the point in killing him. Have him serve the rest of his life in a jail cell instead. Really ironic reading all the "Torture him!", "Bastard deserves to die!" comments.

despite my desire for our prison system to turn back towards a rehabilitation based system instead of a punitive one, there's certain crimes that I still think warrant the death penalty. Killing a person? no. Killing two people? no. Slowly, pathologically torturing and extorting a family for hours before [I]burning[/I] them to death? I think that crime warrants a penalty of death. The immense cruelty required to do something like that is astounding.

Good, fucker deserves it.

[QUOTE=Vandel;33656922]Armchair Psychologist much?[/QUOTE] He has a point, I'm fairly certain murderers have one of the lowest recidivism rates.

[QUOTE=Vandel;33657574]That does not make death a better option.[/QUOTE] He didn't say death is a better option, don't put words in his mouth.

I'm not really for the death penalty, but I don't really mind if this sick bastard gets the chair. There is no 'reintegrating' him back into society, he should be held accountable for his actions and that's exactly what's being done here.

[QUOTE=DamagePoint;33659144]I'm not really for the death penalty, but I don't really mind if this sick bastard gets the chair. There is no 'reintegrating' him back into society, he should be held accountable for his actions and that's exactly what's being done here.[/QUOTE] How can you argue that killing someone holds them accountable for their actions? They don't exist anymore, so they're accountable to nothing and nobody.

the fact that people calling for the psychological and physical torture and murder of a guy who psychologically and physically tortured and murdered people can't draw the mental connection in their heads is kind of scary imo

He was abused as a child, I really don't think he should be treated like this. Anyway, I'm against the death penalty as it is. If we kill murderers as a society, then we become murderers as a society.

[QUOTE=TheHydra;33660060]the fact that people calling for the psychological and physical torture and murder of a guy who psychologically and physically tortured and murdered people can't draw the mental connection in their heads is kind of scary imo[/QUOTE] This is my biggest problem with the death penalty. Sometimes the way some people react to executing prisoners is just as scary as the terrible deed the person did originally.

I shouldn't have posted this, because all it's done has created a shitstorm of pro vs. anti death penalty debate.

[QUOTE=Deamie;33661060]If we kill murderers as a society, then we become murderers as a society.[/QUOTE] Not really, no. But nice play on words anyway.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;33659268]How can you argue that killing someone holds them accountable for their actions? They don't exist anymore, so they're accountable to nothing and nobody.[/QUOTE] This is one of the reasons I feel like families like this who see the murderer die don't actually get much closure from it.

Can't all the equipment malfunction and cause him an extremely slow painful death? Please?

[QUOTE='[sluggo];33663210']Can't all the equipment malfunction and cause him an extremely slow painful death? Please?[/QUOTE] unf god yes that would be so hot

I should just stay out of this section. All you guys do is shit all over the news stories.

[QUOTE=TheHydra;33660060]the fact that people calling for the psychological and physical torture and murder of a guy who psychologically and physically tortured and murdered people can't draw the mental connection in their heads is kind of scary imo[/QUOTE] Internet-induced psychopathy Symptoms are strongest in males aged 8-13

[QUOTE=Zeke129;33664922]Internet-induced psychopathy Symptoms are strongest in males aged 8-13[/QUOTE] fits of psychosis can be induced by reading stories about murderers, internet cutting out, mother refusing to bring a pepsi, and billy totally being a dick about which controller the afflicted gets to use

[QUOTE=Terminutter;33656418]And you are a psychologist with research to back it up? I'm against the death penalty in this case, as I believe that he can be rehabilitated, and I believe that it's a violation of his human rights to execute him, or [b]anyone[/b]. Self-defense, defense of others and defense of rights are the only case when violence can be necessary, in my opinion. As long as he is a human, he has the Universal Declaration of Human Rights giving him the right to life, and the rights given by the UDHR are irrevocable and inviolate. No government, country, or other person can remove them (without his agreement) without commiting a crime against humanity.[/QUOTE] "I have rights, an organization said so"? If someone who poses a threat to society is not worthy of death, then it must be inhumane to kill in self-defense, or in a defensive war. You simply cannot trust that this person won't do it again. Even if therapy could "fix" him, what if his mind snapped again?

[quote]The defense focused heavily on the family's evangelical Christian religion and on Komisarjevsky's mental health. The family's church believed that the end of the world was near and that outsiders were potential agents of the devil, according to testimony. Komisarjevsky told a defense psychologist that he was repeatedly sexually abused by his foster brother from ages 4 to 6 and burned with a cigarette. He also said he was raped as a teenager by someone he trusted. Komisarjevsky was hospitalized when he was 15 after setting a vacant gas station on fire. He was having homicidal thoughts about his father and had upside-down crosses on his arms and a marking declaring Jesus is dead, according to a hospital evaluation. The hospital wanted to put him on Prozac and other treatment, but his parents were uncomfortable with medication and sent him to a religion-based treatment program in Vermont, where he claimed to hear voices telling him to kill himself. Komisarjevsky also claimed as a teenager to have seen a demon with glowing eyes in his room. His mother called church leaders to intervene and pray to remove the demon.[/quote] he's clearly a fucking mental basketcase and everyone here is still happily cheering for him to die painfully.

[QUOTE=Jenkem;33665881]"I have rights, an organization said so"? If someone who poses a threat to society is not worthy of death, then it must be inhumane to kill in self-defense, or in a defensive war. You simply cannot trust that this person won't do it again. Even if therapy could "fix" him, what if his mind snapped again?[/QUOTE] I'm sorry, but are you trying to make a connection between killing someone trying to kill you, and killing someone who has already been caught and can't hurt anyone anymore? Because that's hilarious.

Sick bastard. Childhood abuse doesn't justify the death and torture of four individuals. If I was the man, I would want justice as well. Death. I'd rather him be removed from society pain-free than torture him and let him suffer any more. I believe that is a more humane punishment than letting him rot in jail Why the fuck did I read this thread. I knew it had rape and murder goes my day :(

kill him kill this fucking sick fuck cut his fucking eyelids out and make him watch himself get eaten alive by starving coyotes let him be gangraped by a bunch of gibbering savage inmates while concertina wire is ran through his intestines goddamn my vengeance boner is so hard right now jesus shit fucking bleeding heart pussies in this thread with their reason and levelheadedness and shit if you kill someone your a fucking sick cruel bloodthirsty maniac and you deserve to have your blood boil until it bursts out of your maggoty rotten flesh so you can rot and bleed and suffer for all eternity in hell with the rest of the sniveling cowardly scum that passes for a species in this universe kill kill kill

[QUOTE=Tigster;33666002]I'm sorry, but are you trying to make a connection between killing someone trying to kill you, and killing someone who has already been caught and can't hurt anyone anymore? Because that's hilarious.[/QUOTE] Of course not. I'm getting at the concept people throw around when they say he should be rehabilitated as opposed to executed...while life imprisonment is a different argument entirely, you have to consider than giving them decades to live is more time for them to plot escape.

[QUOTE=Jenkem;33666310]Of course not. I'm getting at the concept of people who suggest he should be rehabilitated as opposed to execution...while life imprisonment is a different argument entirely, you have to consider than giving them decades to live is more time for them to plot escape.[/QUOTE] Prison isn't a cakewalk to escape, this isn't Shawshank Redemption [editline]10th December 2011[/editline] great movie btw