wtf the government isn't letting me do illegal things over the internet
this is fucking anarchy
[QUOTE=johan_sm;25029693]Yeah right. Internet is not free. Just because it's virtual doesn't mean you should be able to distribute paid content without permission. Look at china, most of their internet is censored. Do you see a war? No. No one will bother starting a war just because they crack down on pirates.
So yeah, stop stealing and this won't affect you. (In before piracy is not stealing, yes it is.)[/QUOTE]
What the shit, are you serious? Do you think anyone in China is going to try to rebel after the Tiananmen Square incident? The Chinese government don't give a shit about their people and freedom is non existent there.
When you steal, you remove the original and take it with you. Piracy != Stealing, you're merely copying. Shut up and get it right for fuck's sake.
[QUOTE=Qombat;25031990]When you steal, you remove the original and take it with you. Piracy != Stealing, you're merely copying. Shut up and get it right for fuck's sake.[/QUOTE]
You're stealing theoretical revenue?
[QUOTE=Tetracycline;25030780]Except you give people a free source of getting something, and most people would rather get something for free than have to pay full price
So yeah, you're filtering out the buyers, less loyal people will torrent it to the point where the only people that will buy the games are loyal consumers[/QUOTE]
So programmers and developers are forced to build loyal customer relationships instead of just half-assing it?
My god that's so uncapitalistic
[QUOTE=ZekeTwo;25032283]So programmers and developers are forced to build loyal customer relationships instead of just half-assing it?
My god that's so uncapitalistic[/QUOTE]
That isn't easy, and it isn't the programmers (the people who spend all their fucking time making games) that decide how well their company is received, it isn't their fault
[QUOTE=Tetracycline;25032369]That isn't easy, and it isn't the programmers (the people who spend all their fucking time making games) that decide how well their company is received, it isn't their fault[/QUOTE]
Is it their fault if management ever fucks up on anything?
No it's not but the company still goes under.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;25032461]Is it their fault if management ever fucks up on anything?
No it's not but the company still goes under.[/QUOTE]
But the programmers shouldn't have to suffer for the choices of their higher ups, they're taking it out on the wrong people if they pirate to "stick it to the man"
Man, this Pirates vs ISP, MPAA, FBI, etc. is turning into a war.
If you get more than 3 DMCA notices without moving to a less detectable option, you're doing something wrong.
[QUOTE=jeimizu;25032691]If you get more than 3 DMCA notices without moving to a less detectable option, you're doing something wrong.[/QUOTE]
This.
Also, where will the line be drawn. First users, then what, internet sit-oh, wait... they tried taking out thepiratebay already, didn't they
[QUOTE=jeimizu;25032691]If you get more than 3 DMCA notices without moving to a less detectable option, you're doing something wrong.[/QUOTE]
DMCA notices are practically sent out randomly, there have been cases of networked laser printers getting them.
[QUOTE=ZekeTwo;25033742]DMCA notices are practically sent out randomly, there have been cases of networked laser printers getting them.[/QUOTE]
You might think it's random. In reality laser printers are pirates too. Just laser.
Laser Pirates you say?
[QUOTE=ZekeTwo;25033742]DMCA notices are practically sent out randomly, there have been cases of networked laser printers getting them.[/QUOTE]
Even the printer gets in trouble.
[QUOTE=jeimizu;25032691]If you get more than 3 DMCA notices without moving to a less detectable option, you're doing something wrong.[/QUOTE]
If you are still using that ISP, you're doing something wrong.
[QUOTE=Agent_Wesker;25034120]If you are still using that ISP, you're doing something wrong.[/QUOTE]
Some locations only have 1 isp available.
[QUOTE=johan_sm;25034132]Some locations only have 1 isp available.[/QUOTE]
Let's make our own Facepunch ISP with broadband speeds that allows you to download Linux Distros and is available everywhere with laser beaming technology.
[QUOTE=Agent_Wesker;25034195]Let's make our own Facepunch ISP with broadband speeds that allows you to download Linux Distros and is available everywhere from laser beaming technology.[/QUOTE]
Will you achieve that with help of the laser printer?
[QUOTE=johan_sm;25034198]Will you achieve that with help of the laser printer?[/QUOTE]
Yes.
[QUOTE=sa2fan;25032532]Man, this Pirates vs ISP, MPAA, FBI, etc. is turning into a war.[/QUOTE]
And its starting to ruin everything else. The general public killed the internet.
[QUOTE=johan_sm;25029911]
If it was possible in real life, we would all be living happy dreams, but since digital is not real, a bit different rules apply. Someone still spent time and most likely money to create this or that and you just copy it without paying. [b]That demotivates people from creating new stuff.[/b][/QUOTE]
We've heard testimony from heaps upon heaps of musical artists, programmers, etc. that this is absolutely not the case. Know who is responsible for limiting creativity in the music industry, for instance? The record labels, and you can get that answer affirmed from any of their signed artists.
[QUOTE=johan_sm;25029911]No it's not. It's like taking something for free that you're supposed to pay for. Even if the original is still there, you copied it without permission.
If it was possible in real life, we would all be living happy dreams, but since digital is not real, a bit different rules apply. Someone still spent time and most likely money to create this or that and you just copy it without paying. That demotivates people from creating new stuff.
Important government documents are not for sale, not to the public atleast. Virtual goods are. Using something without paying is stealing in my book.[/QUOTE]
Hey, didn't you pirate 3ds max?
[QUOTE=Legend286;25035796]Hey, didn't you pirate 3ds max?[/QUOTE]
I did. Then I deleted it because it's a crappy software.
[QUOTE=johan_sm;25035815]I did. Then I deleted it because it's a crappy software.[/QUOTE]
Congratulations, that's what lots of pirates do, too - Try out software by downloading it before they decide to buy it.
Some people pirate because they can't afford it
Some people pirate something to try it out
Some people pirate because they can't find it elsewhere
And yes, some people pirate because they don't want to spend money.
There will always be pirates, no matter what governments try to do. But some are honest pirates, and that's not so bad. Hell, some pirate something only to buy it later, either because they liked it or in order to support the developers.
[QUOTE=Darth_GW7;25036333]Congratulations, that's what lots of pirates do, too - Try out software by downloading it before they decide to buy it.
Some people pirate because they can't afford it
Some people pirate something to try it out
Some people pirate because they can't find it elsewhere
And yes, some people pirate because they don't want to spend money.
There will always be pirates, no matter what governments try to do. But some are honest pirates, and that's not so bad. Hell, some pirate something only to buy it later, either because they liked it or in order to support the developers.[/QUOTE]
Still doesn't make it ok.
[QUOTE=Pasalaqcua;25030917]wtf the government isn't letting me do illegal things over the internet
this is fucking anarchy[/QUOTE]
Nope.
Things we have a right to do.
[QUOTE=Snoops;25037442]Nope.
Things we have a right to do.[/QUOTE]
You don't have a right to steal
Again, it's not stealing.
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