SoundCloud could be forced to close after $44m losses.
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[QUOTE=garychencool;49724550]So how can I auto-download all of my playlists and "hearted" music on Soundcloud :v;[/QUOTE]
Yeah, is anyone generous enough to save me the trouble of having to figure out how to download all my liked tracks? :v:
[QUOTE=Katatonic717;49722246]Should we start saving songs?
We must archive this [url]https://soundcloud.com/dopeyziegler/whats-your-deal-ryu-gi[/url][/QUOTE]
I tried.
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[QUOTE=garychencool;49724550]So how can I auto-download all of my playlists and "hearted" music on Soundcloud :v;[/QUOTE]
if you have access to a linux box or a python capable machine in general then [URL="https://github.com/flyingrub/scdl"]scdl[/URL] is a pretty powerful tool. You can generate an account token to allow the script to login to your soundcloud and pull playlists, etc. Due to the way the script works though it seems to rely on tracks being streamable over mobile (I assume it emulates a soundcloud app interface of sorts) thus it will fail to DL certain tracks if the owner has blocked it from being streamed to mobiles. For those edge cases youtube-dl can pull the individual url of the track. Im not too familiar with using youtube-dl for soundcloud playlists.
anyways, as far as I know having read further windows ought to be able to run this as well:
1: install python 3.4 or later on your windows machine
2: from the command prompt/powershell run "pip install scdl" as admin
3: generate the token [URL="http://flyingrub.tk/soundcloud/#"]here[/URL] with your soundcloud login
4: paste that token into your scdl config file, probably in windows in the .scdl folder in your user directory
5; in your shell navigate to the directory you want to save to
6: you can read more in the documentation but if you have gotten the token successfully then typing "scdl me -f" will download every one of your favorites it can into that directory.
Soundcloud playlist downloader works on liked tracks as well, but it puts all of them into individual subfolders and its a pain in the ass to pull em all out. Quality is sketchy too. Theres a playlist converter somewhere, too, that can convert between SC, YT, spotify, and google play afaik let me see if I can find it
[editline]12th February 2016[/editline]
I think it was this
[url]http://soundiiz.com/#/[/url]
sorta buggy and sketchy coverage, as most SC stuff isn't on spotify unfortunately
[editline]12th February 2016[/editline]
Okay, soundiiz is ludicrously good as a general converter. Bounced from spotify to soundcloud to youtube and only lost ~10 songs afaik. Ended up with final YT playlist:
[url]https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8xR10VaeWV7gDqMpffoVOTARrMOs5n7K[/url]
YT is your best bet. 192kbps AAC is actually pretty good, and shouldn't be that noticeable of a quality drop at all.
make folder
enter folder
[quote]youtube-dl https://soundcloud.com/<username>/likes[/quote]
let it download everything
sad if true, at some point I really liked SoundCloud to discover new artists or mixes
another loss for indie scene after Grooveshark (after it finally got good design and usable html5 shell)
Shit, I just went to go through one of the lists of complextro tracks I found a few months back; half the stuff there is gone. Soundcloud is really coming down hard.
But what about my tunes?!
[url]https://soundcloud.com/smidge147/my-name-is-elliott[/url]
[QUOTE=Axznma;49723772]This already happened to me a couple of times. It's nice to know your own content isn't sacred.[/QUOTE]
its exactly why I'm glad I'm not a content creator
no one can steal/mark my work as stolen if I don't have any
the idea that you can build up a huge following and have a happy user base of people who care about [B]YOUR WORK[/B], and it could be, at a moments notice, all lost, is honestly dreadful
[QUOTE]the idea that you can build up a huge following and have a happy user base of people who care about [B]YOUR WORK[/B], and it could be, at a moments notice, all lost, is honestly dreadful[/QUOTE]
I've only had around 300 followers but some of my tracks have about 5000 plays. I got most of my gigs through SoundCloud and even made a lot of friends because of it. I'm literally shaking right now because this would kill my entire career...
[QUOTE=J!NX;49726028]its exactly why I'm glad I'm not a content creator
no one can steal/mark my work as stolen if I don't have any
the idea that you can build up a huge following and have a happy user base of people who care about [B]YOUR WORK[/B], and it could be, at a moments notice, all lost, is honestly dreadful[/QUOTE]
I hope there will be a lot of pressure from the userbase leading up to any potential closure for them to essentially open their vaults of music and let places like the Internet Archive take it all. The loss of Soundcloud's data would be like a film studio smashing up their film archives.
And with it there goes Soundhound...
[QUOTE=JackDestiny;49726079]I've only had around 300 followers but some of my tracks have about 5000 plays. I got most of my gigs through SoundCloud and even made a lot of friends because of it. I'm literally shaking right now because this would kill my entire career...[/QUOTE]
It helped me get a film scoring project and got me my job writing production articles
So ye I'm not too happy either D:
[QUOTE=Erfly;49722111]Not as bad as bandcamp which simply doesn't have a volume slider.[/QUOTE]
That's because you're meant to let the master on full volume and then turn down your output device's volume.
I spent the better part of two years building up a massive music collection on Soundcloud, then I realised their "shuffle" mechanic is broken as fuck. The same songs kept coming up on shuffle over and over.
So I switched over to Spotify and have never been happier. Their shuffle mechanic actually fucking works.
[QUOTE=loopoo;49727867]I spent the better part of two years building up a massive music collection on Soundcloud, then I realised their "shuffle" mechanic is broken as fuck. The same songs kept coming up on shuffle over and over.
So I switched over to Spotify and have never been happier. Their shuffle mechanic actually fucking works.[/QUOTE]
From what I could tell the shuffle feature would only shuffle the songs that have currently loaded on your page, so you'd have to keep scrolling down to the end of the page to push the endless scrolling for a while. Not sure how reliable it was on mobile though
shuffle is also only on your likes page, not on playlists or directly on an artist(/reblogger) page, which is also a terrible design choice/lack of choice.
I've got a spotify subscription (because seriously fuck their ads) and still use soundcloud to find stuff, but make a pretty concerted effort to dig up the songs/artists on spotify, or download music to keep locally when available
[QUOTE=loopoo;49727867]I spent the better part of two years building up a massive music collection on Soundcloud, then I realised their "shuffle" mechanic is broken as fuck. The same songs kept coming up on shuffle over and over.
So I switched over to Spotify and have never been happier. Their shuffle mechanic actually fucking works.[/QUOTE]
Spotify's radio will do what you described though
:v:
[QUOTE=dai;49727940]From what I could tell the shuffle feature would only shuffle the songs that have currently loaded on your page, so you'd have to keep scrolling down to the end of the page to push the endless scrolling for a while. Not sure how reliable it was on mobile though
shuffle is also only on your likes page, not on playlists or directly on an artist(/reblogger) page, which is also a terrible design choice/lack of choice.
I've got a spotify subscription (because seriously fuck their ads) and still use soundcloud to find stuff, but make a pretty concerted effort to dig up the songs/artists on spotify, or download music to keep locally when available[/QUOTE]
yeah you're exactly right, it only shuffled liked songs that were loaded, but their shuffle algorithm sucks, even with 100's of songs loaded, it'd play them in pretty much exactly the same order. awful...
I use SC to discover new artists too and then stick it on spotify. I'd upgrade to premium for spotify but I've already got a premium Pandora sub.
[editline]12th February 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Map in a box;49727947]Spotify's radio will do what you described though
:v:[/QUOTE]
I don't use spotify radio though
[QUOTE=DrDevil;49727668]That's because you're meant to let the master on full volume and then turn down your output device's volume.[/QUOTE]
Forgive me for asking since I'm not really an audiophile, but what's the purpose of this?
[QUOTE=Erfly;49728026]Forgive me for asking since I'm not really an audiophile, but what's the purpose of this?[/QUOTE]
what I'm taking away from the statement is that the site assumes if you're there to listen to high quality audio, you should have it producing it only at max volume and adjust volume to your preference with the knob on your own sound system
it's nice to run music in the background (like I play spotify a lot while gaming and turn it down to the lowest volume without being muted and it's still kinda loud) but if you're there for the good stuff they're not going to let you fuck it up with artificially muting it down, which could probably do a lot of dumb things like adding digital noise, which is awful if you don't realize the browser is tuning it down and you turn your physical volume up to compensate
blasting music at the highest volume on the output device (like your PC or whatever) and then using your speakers (or whatever device is actually playing it) to turn the volume down ensures you get the most quality from the song.
when you lower the volume on your PC, you're muting a lot of the music, so it's better to play that at full and just adjust on your speakers.
[QUOTE=Erfly;49728026]Forgive me for asking since I'm not really an audiophile, but what's the purpose of this?[/QUOTE]
it helps distort the sound
[editline]12th February 2016[/editline]
it wouldn't add any digital noise by clamping it in the browser or whatnot, not sure why it would.
[QUOTE=Erfly;49728026]Forgive me for asking since I'm not really an audiophile, but what's the purpose of this?[/QUOTE]
Keeping audio levels between tracks normalized, and stopping you from forgetting that you turned down the browser slider. Generally volume changes are best made at the output device
it doesn't mute the music it just multiplies the PCM output
[QUOTE=dai;49728063]what I'm taking away from the statement is that the site assumes if you're there to listen to high quality audio, you should have it producing it only at max volume and adjust volume to your preference with the knob on your own sound system[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=loopoo;49728084]blasting music at the highest volume on the output device (like your PC or whatever) and then using your speakers (or whatever device is actually playing it) to turn the volume down ensures you get the most quality from the song.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=paindoc;49728743]Keeping audio levels between tracks normalized, and stopping you from forgetting that you turned down the browser slider. Generally volume changes are best made at the output device[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Map in a box;49728765]it doesn't mute the music it just multiplies the PCM output[/QUOTE]
Cool, thanks a bunch guys!
I really hope that they figure out how to fix their shit rather than an awful company like google acquiring it. But it might be quite hard, even spotify has financial troubles along with pandora.
Oh, also, I forgot if bandcamp streams higher bit depth files they'll have more headroom than lower bit depth stuff. Dropping from 24 to 16 bit can cause clipping if youre already at something like -0.3dbfs.
So that can cause volume weirdness as well. There are a number of small things like this that can be easily missed by artists and unaccounted for by websites. Like small changes to mp3 encoding that greatly enhance the output, for example.
Don't the Audiosurf games also use Soundcloud? Man, that's unfortunate.
Let it die, and let amateur music production die with it
Nobody cares about your copy paste EDM project
[QUOTE=pdp;49729654]Let it die, and let amateur music production die with it
Nobody cares about your copy paste EDM project[/QUOTE]
Yep, nobody should be allowed to make music if they're not bought up by a pre-existing big record label, and nobody who isn't already a big-name artist is creative enough to produce music, just ban it all. There is absolutely no value in amateur music production whatsoever. There is no future in it. Everyone who engages in it is a talentless hack. Why would anyone [I]want[/I] to bother trying to be creative anyway?
And why would anyone who is an actual artist put their music on such a site for people to enjoy? No, they should lock their discographies behind extremely restrictive paywalls. You should have to [I]pay[/I] for every time you want to listen to a song, it shouldn't be available to listen to on a public site. Why would you want to give something like that to your fans? What have they ever done for you?
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