Hotline Miami 2 refused classification in Australia - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Rusty100;46936038]well I already preordered the vinyl edition so the classification board can suck my dick[/QUOTE] The pre-order comes with a steam code (I also pre-ordered the vinyl edition)\ This isn't gonna affect it, is it?

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;46936155]you're still promoting people to pirate content regardless if its yours or not the law doesn't say "it's fine if its your material" You are not allowed to encourage anyone to do it, it's against the law[/QUOTE] Copyright, however, does say that. It's not illegal, per se, to pirate things. It's simply an infringement of copyright, and a violation of the agreement between you and your ISP. They'll sue you to hell, but you wont go to jail. Now, you may lose your Copyright. Copyright law states that you have to defend your copyright to maintain control of it, so if you just let people infringe on it willy-nilly they revoke it from you.

[QUOTE=gman003-main;46936092]I swear, if I'm ever a big game developer and some country tries to censor my shit, I will upload a patch to fix it myself. And until then, whatever got replaced will just be the dorkiest-looking photo of whichever politician was responsible, with a drunk voiceactor narrating what should be happening, and telling you to go torrent the fix. I am 100% serious about this.[/QUOTE] sure thing. on one hand i know [url=http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Hotline-Miami-Dev-Tells-Pirates-Update-Torrent-With-Latest-Patch-48641.html]dennaton isn't exactly against piracy[/url] so I mean I guess don't feel bad if you do pirate it although it does suck that some of the coolest devs around right now are getting screwed over by it.

[QUOTE=gman003-main;46936179]It's not warez to give something away for free, and I'll bet most of those laws only say "you cannot sell a game with this content", not "you cannot give away a game with this content". If it really mattered, I'd find a way to get plausible deniability. Absolute worst-case, I refuse to sell the game at all in their country, and add a bit to my next game comparing them to Hitler. [editline]14th January 2015[/editline] You're talking absolute bullcrap here. I dare you, find me a law that says anything at all like that, in any country.[/QUOTE] Hotline Miami won't be free, it cost money and therefore qualifies under being illegal if you used another service to get it for free (warez) Also with your "bullcrap", it's a law, you're not allowed to promote illegal activity at all Illegal activity includes encouraging people to murder, rape, [B]steal, use the internet for explicit purposes, encourage piracy[/B]etc. this should be fairly obvious [editline]15th January 2015[/editline] not like they will be fined or anything if they say pirate the game but the government could chase them up for it doubt it argument is dumb

[QUOTE=proboardslol;46936204]Now, you may lose your Copyright. Copyright law states that you have to defend your copyright to maintain control of it, so if you just let people infringe on it willy-nilly they revoke it from you.[/QUOTE] You're confusing copyright with trademarks. Copyrights do not have to be defended - you can selectively enforce your copyright without losing it. Trademarks, however, do have to be defended. If you do not actively pursue infringement, your trademark becomes diluted, and you can lose your trademark.

This is why Piracy is the highest in Australia this is money that could go into taxes and help Aus but oh well.

No wonder piracy is sky rocketing.

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;46936221]Hotline Miami won't be free, it cost money and therefore qualifies under being illegal if you used another service to get it for free (warez) Also with your "bullcrap", it's a law, you're not allowed to promote illegal activity at all Illegal activity includes encouraging people to murder, rape, [B]steal, use the internet for explicit purposes, encourage piracy[/B]etc. this should be fairly obvious [editline]15th January 2015[/editline] not like they will be fined or anything if they say pirate the game but the government could chase them up for it doubt it argument is dumb[/QUOTE] Wait did you even read the thing you're responding to?

if they where just to banned it from retail stores it would not be so bad at least then you could buy it from amazon but with bullshit like I don't Amazon can ship to Aus.

[QUOTE=sirdownloadsalot;46936198]The pre-order comes with a steam code (I also pre-ordered the vinyl edition)\ This isn't gonna affect it, is it?[/QUOTE] no the game itself won't be on the steam store in Aus, but foreign cd keys will still activate. [editline]15th January 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=theevilldeadII;46936290]if they where just to banned it from retail stores it would not be so bad at least then you could buy it from amazon but with bullshit like I don't Amazon can ship to Aus.[/QUOTE] HM1 doesn't even have a retail edition I don't see 2 being any different

Let's make a new thing "classification board classification board" where in this board puts ratings on classification boards based on how big a bunch of lying tumblr feminazi catering bunch of old whitehaired cockfarts from ancient rome they are. I'd refuse classifying the australian classification board.

[QUOTE=Rusty100;46936310] HM1 doesn't even have a retail edition I don't see 2 being any different[/QUOTE] boy do i wish it were different though

[QUOTE=Xonax;46935780]What, are you fucking serious? I thought the reason we got an R18+ rating was so Adults could decide on what they should buy.[/QUOTE] this country doesnt get called a nanny state for no reason

"Banned in Australia" is the new Banned in China.

There will be a hard copy right? If you want to support the dev then just import it from China or somewhere else, our customs are a joke anyway and its fine to import.

[QUOTE=theevilldeadII;46936258]This is why Piracy is the highest in Australia this is money that could go into taxes and help Aus but oh well.[/QUOTE] An actual reasonable argument and Australia, come on now. Not surprised at all, but not like you can't get around the ban.

Is this Australia or North Korea? we have a R18 for a reason, it took a long time, fucking use it Everybody who was going to pay good money is just going to pirate it or get it off a key site now, top job m8's you did literally nothing other than screw over the dev

[QUOTE=Rusty100;46936038]well I already preordered the vinyl edition so the classification board can suck my dick[/QUOTE] me too owned

how does a pixelly top down even get that high a rating

[QUOTE=Luxuria;46937420]how does a pixelly top down even get that high a rating[/QUOTE] Because it has rape scene. Which is somehow ok in movies but if a character does it in a cutscene of a game, that's a banning!

Oh wow what I thought it just had some blood and shit

Isn't it a fake rape scene too because Jacket is acting in a movie?

[QUOTE=Destroyox;46937460]Isn't it a fake rape scene too because Jacket is acting in a movie?[/QUOTE] From the Classification Board's report: [sp]In the sequence of game play footage titled Midnight Animal, the protagonist character bursts into what appears to be a movie set and explicitly kills 4 people, who collapse to the floor in a pool of copious blood, often accompanied by blood splatter. After stomping on the head of a fifth male character, he strikes a female character wearing red underwear. She is knocked to the floor and is viewed lying face down in a pool of copious blood. The male character is viewed with his pants halfway down, partially exposing his buttocks. He is viewed pinning the female down by the arms and lying on top of her thrusting, implicitly raping her (either rear entry or anally) while her legs are viewed kicking as she struggles beneath him. This visual depiction of implied sexual violence is emphasised by it being mid-screen, with a red backdrop pulsating and the remainder of the screen being surrounded by black.[/sp] They don't mention the context but I think it'd be safe to assume this is the same scene that caused that controversy earlier. My best guess: They don't give a single fuck about the context and whether it's an actual rape or simulated rape on a movie set. It looks like rape, so that's a banning.

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;46936129]you'd be fined heavily by the government for breaking the law also for promoting illegal activity (warez) so have fun[/QUOTE] Do you have any idea how the law works? Torrent itself is not an illegal activity. It has a reputation of being used for committing copyright violation, due to it's decentralized nature, but the protocol itself is perfectly legal. If you are the rightful owner of the content you made (AKA developer of the game) and you give explicit permission to your userbase to download your content via Torrent and other protocols, then it is not piracy, and thus not an illegal activity. There is no law in place in any country that I know of that prohibits content owners to distribute their content via Torrent and protocols of similiar nature. There have even been artists that officially advertised and distributed their music via thepiratebay for free.

[QUOTE=TacticalBacon;46937479]From the Classification Board's report: [sp]In the sequence of game play footage titled Midnight Animal, the protagonist character bursts into what appears to be a movie set and explicitly kills 4 people, who collapse to the floor in a pool of copious blood, often accompanied by blood splatter. After stomping on the head of a fifth male character, he strikes a female character wearing red underwear. She is knocked to the floor and is viewed lying face down in a pool of copious blood. The male character is viewed with his pants halfway down, partially exposing his buttocks. He is viewed pinning the female down by the arms and lying on top of her thrusting, implicitly raping her (either rear entry or anally) while her legs are viewed kicking as she struggles beneath him. This visual depiction of implied sexual violence is emphasised by it being mid-screen, with a red backdrop pulsating and the remainder of the screen being surrounded by black.[/sp] They don't mention the context but I think it'd be safe to assume this is the same scene that caused that controversy earlier. My best guess: They don't give a single fuck about the context and whether it's an actual rape or simulated rape on a movie set. It looks like rape, so that's a banning.[/QUOTE] Simple solution is to take the scene out, get it reclassified and then slot it back in with a "leaked" patch

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;46937523]Simple solution is to take the scene out, get it reclassified and then slot it back in with a "leaked" patch[/QUOTE] They could also replace the scene with a crying koala explaining what's going on, like what the South Park guys did for the Stick of Truth.

[QUOTE=TacticalBacon;46937479]From the Classification Board's report: [sp]In the sequence of game play footage titled Midnight Animal, the protagonist character bursts into what appears to be a movie set and explicitly kills 4 people, who collapse to the floor in a pool of copious blood, often accompanied by blood splatter. After stomping on the head of a fifth male character, he strikes a female character wearing red underwear. She is knocked to the floor and is viewed lying face down in a pool of copious blood. The male character is viewed with his pants halfway down, partially exposing his buttocks. He is viewed pinning the female down by the arms and lying on top of her thrusting, implicitly raping her (either rear entry or anally) while her legs are viewed kicking as she struggles beneath him. This visual depiction of implied sexual violence is emphasised by it being mid-screen, with a red backdrop pulsating and the remainder of the screen being surrounded by black.[/sp] They don't mention the context but I think it'd be safe to assume this is the same scene that caused that controversy earlier. My best guess: They don't give a single fuck about the context and whether it's an actual rape or simulated rape on a movie set. It looks like rape, so that's a banning.[/QUOTE] The rating system for games has always banned anything even remotely related to sex. Like how Indigo Prophecy/Fahrenheit got banned because it had sex scenes it despite not being able to control them and the sex scenes being equal to an MA15+ film.

That funny, because it's prequel it's probably the game that made the biggest statement about violence in videogames in the recent years. You can, like, write an entire essay on 'Do you like hurting other people?' and how it breaks the 4th wall.

Fucking. Ridiculous. I just CANNOT believe it. Uh, hello? WE HAVE RATINGS FOR A [B]REASON[/B]? Does logic not compute in some peoples heads?

[QUOTE=Banned?;46935792]Boo! Get off the stage, old man![/QUOTE] Didn't he just describe most Tarantino movies? Is Tarantino banned in Australia?