DARPA successful in assisting Sarif industries developing artificial limbs - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;41591546]Personally I don't really like the idea of cutting my limbs off to replace them with mechanical parts. If I already lost a limb I would have zero issues with that. To be perfectly honest I think that the moment we get perfectly viable prosthetics, they are going to be adapted into exo-skeletons for people who still have all of their limbs. Would make construction working and military operations a whole different business.[/QUOTE] Personally I'd be fine with getting it as long as it does everything my current limbs do but more, otherwise it's a pretty rubbish trade off. Essentially I'd have to be able to actually feel stuff otherwise it's pretty much useless no matter how much stronger it is.

[QUOTE=Joazzz;41588987]having ANYTHING metal/synthetic/whatever artificial permanently inside my body would make me feel really uncomfortable. i mean you're a sack of soft squishy meat yet you have, like, a plastic stomach or liver? i have no problem with external stuff or small fingertip-sized implants but entire organs? i'd rather go for vat-grown 100% biological versions[/QUOTE] There are already plastic hearts assuming in 50 years we get tech the same level as DX:HR, it would be safe to assume that manufactured internal organs would have 100 fold efficiency

HEHAHAHAHHAHH DEUS EX HAHA WHAT ASHAMED HAHAHA I DIDNT WANT THIS HA Has this shit not gotten old yet?

I don't want robot limbs and stuff in the far future, I want a robotic heart and robotic lungs.

Did everyone forget that the whole theme of Deus Ex: Human Revolution is that transhumanism is something that can be easily exploited, and can cause humanity to lose their humanity? The rich can literally control the poor by giving them augmentations and keep them in check by controlling neuoropyzne supply. Even Adam Jensen was subject to this. The reason he says the famous quote, "I never asked for this," is because Sariff went ahead and cut off every functioning and nonfunctioning limb sans his torso and head without his consent. The only difference was that Jensen didn't need neuoropyzne. Everybody seems to have missed Hugh Darrow's message at the end of the game.

[QUOTE=Skyward;41591950]HEHAHAHAHHAHH DEUS EX HAHA WHAT ASHAMED HAHAHA I DIDNT WANT THIS HA Has this shit not gotten old yet?[/QUOTE]Deus Ex and things related to it don't simply "get old" you've got ten seconds to beat it before I add you to the list of NSF casualties [editline]25th July 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=KillerJaguar;41592096]Did everyone forget that the whole theme of Deus Ex: Human Revolution is that transhumanism is something that can be easily exploited, and can cause humanity to lose their humanity? The rich can literally control the poor by giving them augmentations and keep them in check by controlling neuoropyzne supply. Even Adam Jensen was subject to this. The reason he says the famous quote, "I never asked for this," is because Sariff went ahead and cut off every functioning and nonfunctioning limb sans his torso and head without his consent. The only difference was that Jensen didn't need neuoropyzne. Everybody seems to have missed Hugh Darrow's message at the end of the game.[/QUOTE]but all the ultra transhumanist insecure nerds can't transcend basementdwellerhood without new shiny titanium legs/arms/dicks

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;41590119]You can never have too much Deus Ex[/QUOTE] I need some Deus Ex right now.

[QUOTE=dass;41592416]I need some Deus Ex right now.[/QUOTE] the prophecy says that "every time you mention Deus Ex someone somewhere will reinstall it" and it seems to be holding true to this day

The only thing I really want is biotic eyes. My own degrade slowly but steadily, and all I can see are blobs lf color in the distance, without my contacts. Eye surgery isn't too reliable either - my grandpa had almost lost his vision in one eye because of that.

[QUOTE=Xmeagol;41591892]There are already plastic hearts[/QUOTE]so? they don't make me feel any less nauseous than future bionics

I read a lot of Orson Scott Card's books when I was in middle school. Speaker for the Dead and Xenocide were two of my favorites for their inclusion of the character Miro, whose eyes were lost and replaced with electronic simulacrums. I used to think it was the coolest thing. These bionic eyes had camera-like functions, including recording and playback features, via a jack on the underside which connected to a terminal. But then Miro has a monologue describing how horrible it really is. And when he shows a playback to people on a screen, it's this black and white sort of bas-relief image which can only mimic depth perception. It kind of seeded my thoughts about mechanical augmentation of the human body. I just don't believe we'll ever be able to exceed the incredibly high bar of complex functionality set by the natural organism we call homo sapien. Prosthetic technology seems to be set on a course that will take it beyond the speculations of the 1980s, but I can't believe you'll ever see a 'better' body than the organic human.

ADAAAAAAAAAAAAM HELP ME IN MY OFFICE ADAAAAMMM.

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;41592096]Did everyone forget that the whole theme of Deus Ex: Human Revolution is that transhumanism is something that can be easily exploited, and can cause humanity to lose their humanity? The rich can literally control the poor by giving them augmentations and keep them in check by controlling neuoropyzne supply. Even Adam Jensen was subject to this. The reason he says the famous quote, "I never asked for this," is because Sariff went ahead and cut off every functioning and nonfunctioning limb sans his torso and head without his consent. The only difference was that Jensen didn't need neuoropyzne. Everybody seems to have missed Hugh Darrow's message at the end of the game.[/QUOTE] This just in, bad people can exploit technology! By this argument we should ban guns. And planes. And computers. Ad infinitum.

[QUOTE=lord0war;41591689]If you do a bad job do they drop you in the lake?[/QUOTE] Worse. They make you step on Legos.

[QUOTE=Antdawg;41587126]I sometimes can't tell if some Facepunchers are being serious or not when they read things like this and want to have parts of their body replaced with artificial parts. I assume those that say this have perfectly functioning limbs and no physical disabilities. So I ask, why?[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cz-IZHL3Ao[/media] This is my guess... Swiss Army Arms! (This isn't just responding with a video macro. There's text too.)

[QUOTE=bravehat;41589537]Nah they did, it's just been done so many times people are sick of it.[/QUOTE] Looks like I've been zinged, time to go commit Seppukku.

I can't imagine ever wanting to replace perfectly good limbs and organs with mechanical ones. Sure being able to turn your arms into miniguns or whatever seems pretty nice, but the technology seems to be almost exclusively designed for those who no longer have the limbs that they're getting replaced. You wouldn't ride around in a wheelchair just because it means that you don't have to walk anymore. It just seems wrong. That being said, the only thing I would get replaced would be my eyes, because I have utterly shit vision. I wouldn't consider that replacement if I had 20/20, though.

[QUOTE=JgcxCub;41596008]This just in, bad people can exploit technology! By this argument we should ban guns. And planes. And computers. Ad infinitum.[/QUOTE] So you're okay with bringing back slavery? And losing your humanity while you're at it? [editline]25th July 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Leo Leonardo;41596200]I can't imagine ever wanting to replace perfectly good limbs and organs with mechanical ones. Sure being able to turn your arms into miniguns or whatever seems pretty nice, but the technology seems to be almost exclusively designed for those who no longer have the limbs that they're getting replaced. You wouldn't ride around in a wheelchair just because it means that you don't have to walk anymore. It just seems wrong. That being said, the only thing I would get replaced would be my eyes, because I have utterly shit vision. I wouldn't consider that replacement if I had 20/20, though.[/QUOTE] That's another thing Human Revolution touches on. There are a lot of people in the universe that [i]willingly[/i] trade their functioning limbs and organs for mechanical ones. Additionally, since augmented people can perform better than non-augmented people, employers start hiring only augments or forcing augments on others. Which at that point, when everyone is augmented with artificial limbs, what's the point of being human? You'd be like Darth Vader: more machine than man.

Deus Ex is also a work of fiction. And seriously, is humanity stored in the limbs or something? Are amputees less human because they don't have all their limbs? Is that runner with the prosthetics from the Olympics that gained a lot of attention less human because he has prosthetics? How is getting augmented "losing your humanity"? Its fucking idiotic, inebriated logic. And seriously, you now use Darth-Fucking-Vader? Are you trying or just trolling? Seriously, thats just goddamned stupid. There is no point to being human. We just are. And you're not more human because you have all your limbs, or less human because you get augments, or something stupid like that. Fucking luddites.

[QUOTE=krail9;41587227]even hundreds of years in the future prosthetics will never have the same amount of fine motor control and sense of touch/balance as your real limbs[/QUOTE] I bet artificial limbs will be superior in every way to natural limbs within 30 years.

[QUOTE=CrimsonChin;41596378]I bet artificial limbs will be superior in every way to natural limbs within 30 years.[/QUOTE] Swiss Army Arms?

[QUOTE=woolio1;41596480]Swiss Army Arms?[/QUOTE] Go Go Gadget?

fuck bionic limbs, i just want my augmented sunglasses so I can be just as cool as Jensen!

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;41596255] That's another thing Human Revolution touches on. There are a lot of people in the universe that [i]willingly[/i] trade their functioning limbs and organs for mechanical ones. Additionally, since augmented people can perform better than non-augmented people, employers start hiring only augments or forcing augments on others. Which at that point, when everyone is augmented with artificial limbs, what's the point of being human? You'd be like Darth Vader: more machine than man.[/QUOTE] What is the point in being human, it's pretty shit.

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;41596255]what's the point of being human? [/QUOTE] That's about as deep as your whole paragraph got and it's still laughable.

This is really awesome, the only problem I can see is the inability to feel what your grabbing so it would be hard to get used to.

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;41596312]Deus Ex is also a work of fiction. And seriously, is humanity stored in the limbs or something? Are amputees less human because they don't have all their limbs? Is that runner with the prosthetics from the Olympics that gained a lot of attention less human because he has prosthetics? How is getting augmented "losing your humanity"? Its fucking idiotic, inebriated logic. And seriously, you now use Darth-Fucking-Vader? Are you trying or just trolling? Seriously, thats just goddamned stupid. There is no point to being human. We just are. And you're not more human because you have all your limbs, or less human because you get augments, or something stupid like that. Fucking luddites.[/QUOTE] it's not (at first) the soulful romantic "humanity" that we tend to use to refer to one's moral integrity or attachment to emotion it's where when you lose your arm, whether or not you replace it, you are physically 'less human.' the idea is, over time, an automechanization enthusiast may choose to trade or 'enhance' more and more of their body parts until their senses, their perception, their life, down to the minute, is again, less human. to be human is to err; whether or not you believe in some purpose to our creation or evolution, we have capacities and limits, and if someone manages to alter their body to exceed or destroy them, then yes, they are less human. if their waking mind can do away with past attentions to problems and graces that occupy the thoughts of every other current human being, all because they choose to remove parts of their natural body, then they have removed some of their humanity. Think about this: someone holds the record for longest held deadlift in the world. the record holder achieved the feat by succeeding thirteen others over twenty years. then, a woman who willingly mechanized herself goes to best the record using her mechanized solar-powered prosthetic arms, legs, and various truncal muscle augmentations. her replacement hands, made of steel, plastic, aluminum, polycarbonate, and many other materials, grasp the bar. without any lactic acid pain or any requirements for additional energy, she stands for fourteen days and seventeen hours, deciding to stop because "it's far enough to beat the last record." no organic human would ever beat this new time. should it be accepted as a legitimate entry in the book of human being world records? if so, by what criteria?

[QUOTE=MaverickIB;41588572]I definitely see it happening in fewer than 100 years. We went from believing man would never fly to everyone casually flying across the world on a regular basis in less than 100 years. From computers being the size of entire houses to everyone carrying one around in their pocket in less than 100 years. Technology like this starts of slow, but once it picks up it advances at an incredible rate. .[/QUOTE] There have been massive periods in human history where technological advancement has been very slow, almost stagnant. Just because we're currently in a massive upturn doesn't mean its always going to be this way. [editline]26th July 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;41596312]Deus Ex is also a work of fiction. [/QUOTE] Why do you and others feel the need to point this shit out because its a video game, but you're more than happy to reference 1984 or brave new world to make your points?

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;41596312]Deus Ex is also a work of fiction. And seriously, is humanity stored in the limbs or something? Are amputees less human because they don't have all their limbs? Is that runner with the prosthetics from the Olympics that gained a lot of attention less human because he has prosthetics? How is getting augmented "losing your humanity"? Its fucking idiotic, inebriated logic. And seriously, you now use Darth-Fucking-Vader? Are you trying or just trolling? Seriously, thats just goddamned stupid. There is no point to being human. We just are. And you're not more human because you have all your limbs, or less human because you get augments, or something stupid like that. Fucking luddites.[/QUOTE] I can tell you're not very literate since you seem to miss even basic metaphors, much less acknowledge that fiction can reflect reality. People who lose their limbs due to genuine accidents are fine. It removes their disadvantage from people who still have their limbs. The limit is reached when people [i]willingly[/i] amputate themselves to "better" themselves with artificial limbs. You would be better off building robots from scratch instead of turning people into robots.

if you people are so extreme that you're going get a head start at the social segregation by labeling anti-augs "luddites" just because they prefer living flesh instead of cold dead metal, then i'm going to give you a new name too. something nice, like "robots", or how about "species traitors". as soon as this bionics thing starts going down the enhancement path i'll have to start studying EMP fields