DARPA successful in assisting Sarif industries developing artificial limbs - Polidicks

Is it not human nature to improve? Is the next step not improving yourself? Think of how much easier augmentations could make that leap into real, prolonged space travel. Think of all the practical work applications, too. Your average nerd behind the computer probably isn't going to be able to afford augmentations of such caliber anyway.

I like to think that, as living creatures, we already are robots. considering that we are composed of organs, composed of tissue, composed of cells, composed of molecules, composed of atoms, where does life fit into all of this? how can all these elements in our body(all of which, by themselves, are inanimate) suddenly gain the ability to move by themselves? at some point in time, there may be a moment where we can create tiny nanoscopic robots that function just as cells. surprise surprise, they aren't just robots designed like cells, they [I]are[/I] cells. we, when it really comes down to it, are just robots that aren't made of metal. we have a control system that sends out electrical/chemical signals to various fibers that contract and expand depending on the signal sent, we have the fibers that act as flexible pistons, we have an energy converter that can move using pressure rather than wires, hell, we even have wires in our bodies :v: if we choose to stay as humans, we become biologically stagnant and flawed and the line of innovation will cease, as we will not be capable of anything that augmentations can give us. to be human is to err, but our past has shown constantly that innovation and creativity do not stem from errors in our body or mind, but our ability to say "what if".

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;41603393]The main reason that I don't believe "Deus Ex" is the natural progression for human evolution is because it relies on the assumption that a huge number of people would be willing to butcher themselves for an upgrade. I'm not at all opposed to augmentation technology. In fact, I think it's a pretty cool concept. But I do not believe it is reasonable to think that a large enough number of people would be willing to permanently remove fully functioning limbs and organs in order to replace them with consumer goods. The sample size here is pretty biased, being that we're all essentially a bunch of nerds who grew up watching scifi and playing video games. If you were to go out on the street and begin polling people to see who would be willing to unnecessarily remove their arms in lieu of artificial arms, I'd wager we'd see some very different results. And it's not a matter of being afraid of technology, it's a matter of it not being worth it. Who would want to remove their own arm in favor of an arm with a drill in it when they could just pick up a drill? It's a pointless trade, unless its out of medical necessity. There are no marked advantages for every day life to robotic prosthetics that couldn't be easily managed by something that [I]doesn't[/I] require self-amputation, and what advantages that do exist are extremely niche. Infinitely more likely than this "Dues Ex" future of willing amputations is the emergence of additions or wetware. In order for it to succeed in the consumer market, it can't force the consumers to make major sacrifices or undergo lengthy or dangerous medical procedures. We'll see the emergence of things like chips to regulate body functions, augmented reality devices or implants, internal computers to allow us to "telepathically" communicate with the world around us, neural internet that will allow instantaneous access to information, translation software to bridge language barriers, and business like that.[/QUOTE] I read something about scientists working on artificial skeletons, muscles, tendons, and ligaments. I would rather have something like that than completely replace my arms/legs.

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;41587143]Because metal is stronger than flesh.[/QUOTE] [img]http://i.cubeupload.com/biijr6.jpg[/img] [QUOTE=]"The Machine is strong. We must purge the weak, hated flesh and replace it with the blessed purity of metal. Only through permanence can we truly triumph, only through the Machine can we find victory. Punish the flesh. Iron in mind and body. Hail the Machine!"[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;41607298]"humanness" isn't a measurable notion, though you can't make a line where someone stops being human [editline]26th July 2013[/editline] and to answer your hypothetical situation, i'd think there'd be different leagues set up for vanilla folks and augmented people[/QUOTE] Actually, I'm fairly sure you can, at least in a biological context. But on a seperate note - Human perceptions and experience are shaped by the physical shell we inhabit for those experiences, start to alter that physical shell and you are altering your experience of the universe, and becoming something more and less than a human.

Holy shit, it looks like it's about to fucking whack the shit out of him when he moves it towards his face.

[QUOTE=Craigewan;41612422]Actually, I'm fairly sure you can, at least in a biological context. But on a seperate note - Human perceptions and experience are shaped by the physical shell we inhabit for those experiences, start to alter that physical shell and you are altering your experience of the universe, and becoming something more and less than a human.[/QUOTE] but we're not talking about a biological context, we're talking about a philosophical context sure, you can alter your body in tons of different ways, but you'll never be able to actually change your species there'll always be a human brain with human memories in there

I hope we make good progress on this stuff. My dad could use this. He has some sort of neurological disease that causes him to be in unfathomable amounts of pain nearly constantly in his right arm and has said several times that he'd rather have no arm than be in that amount of pain, as well as not wishing it on anyone.

I'm surprised this hasn't been posted in this thread. I'm sure within the next decade we will be able to give people whatever limb they lost back. We almost have perfect range of motion when it comes to prostheses. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjzA9b9T3d8[/media] Actually, after reading over the thread I'm not surprised this wasn't mentions. Talk about a shit storm. And for the record I'm 23, have crap eyesight, two shoulder injuries that will never go away, and my right knee is already giving out because that leg is about an inch shorter than my left and rotated slightly outward naturally below the knee. You bet your ass if I was given the chance to get augmentations I'd take it.

Now I would not take a cyborg arm for the sake of it being a cyborg arm. But if said replacement limb was unquestionably just downright BETTER than a regular limb then Yes I would take it. And I mean that there are only positives to this arm, no negatives. If the Limb cannot Feel, that's a negative, no dice. If the limb requires an obstructive power source, that's a negative, no dice. If the limb is uncomfortable in any way that's a no-go. Heck if the limb is really bad looking from an asthetics standpoint then nope. However should the limb be able to EXACTLY replicate all the actions of a human arm AND do more then I possibly WOULD take the limb, that is assuming the benefits outweighed the effort for getting surgery and inherent costs. I want super strength, lighting fast movement, an unparalleled level of precision and all that jazz and only THEN would I swap my fleshy arm out for an artificial one.

i will never get a single cyber/cyborg implant or appendage unless my life depends on it. the whole idea of people enhancing their abilities with prosthetic kind of horrifying and decadent. i'll probably end up like those crazy old people who don't accept new technologies

[QUOTE=pfoot;41624112]i will never get a single cyber/cyborg implant or appendage unless my life depends on it. the whole idea of people enhancing their abilities with prosthetic kind of horrifying and decadent. i'll probably end up like those crazy old people who don't accept new technologies[/QUOTE] Probably. I don't get why people consider the idea of implants so abhorrent.

This is cool. Of course not perfect, but time will hopefully fix that.

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[QUOTE=Chickens!;41624705]LegDriver.exe has performed an illegal operation and has shut down, please contact the administrator.[/QUOTE]what if your eye replacements' computers crash? you're going through your daily rutines and then suddenly all you see is an error screen bonus points if they run on Windows

On a side note, Imagine if artificial limbs like this were allowed into the paralympic games. Now Imagine if they got more and more out of hand you the Paralympic games is filled with people who are Adam Jenson etc.. Just think how Awesome Cyborg MMA would look.

[QUOTE=thisguy123;41625422]On a side note, Imagine if artificial limbs like this were allowed into the paralympic games. Now Imagine if they got more and more out of hand you the Paralympic games is filled with people who are Adam Jenson etc.. Just think how Awesome Cyborg MMA would look.[/QUOTE]well at least martial arts would be super interesting

Isn't your body actaully a machine? I mean, your body doesn't store any memories expect for muscle memory that means that basically your brain is the only part of you that is 'you' as in your personality etc. Aren't we just improving on the biological machine that has some flaws due to the long adjustment period that evoultion has.