[QUOTE=Electrocuter;45880895]Not sure about at pretty sure this was a serious threat to use violence:[/QUOTE]
There isn't going to be any violence if the parade disperses immediately. If it doesn't, then likely violence will be used - as is the case with every single unlawful protest ever.
[QUOTE=Battledrobe;45880868]The police isn't going to bully and beat up people for being gay. They're going to disband LGBT-related parades, and the Russian government, as any government does, holds the right to disband public protests.
Seeing how Russia is the USSR with a nametag I wouldn't be surprised if the populace didn't have inherent right to protest.[/QUOTE]
This suggests otherwise though
[quote=article]“our police and self-defence forces will react immediately and in three minutes will explain to them what [b]kind of sexual orientation they should stick to[/b].” [/quote]
Not sure if its legit and stuff but if it is, then it's pretty unpleasant.
[QUOTE=Battledrobe;45880913]unlawful protest[/QUOTE]
And that's the problem with this, a protest shouldn't be considered unlawful unless it's being violent, it's a human right, something Russia doesn't follow and the reason people are against Russia in this matter, yet you state there's nothing wrong with this when there is.
[QUOTE=bravehat;45879860]What the fuck is wrong with people, why does anyone care in the slightest where someones dick or vagina goes, and if that dick is in contact with other dicks, or those vaginas with other vaginas?
Seriously I don't get it, at all.[/QUOTE]
Dude, what you described is perfectly not-gay. It's only when the balls touch. :downs:
[QUOTE=Battledrobe;45880913]There isn't going to be any violence if the parade disperses immediately. If it doesn't, then likely violence will be used - as is the case with every single unlawful protest ever.[/QUOTE]
Right except the protest is being declared unlawful because the participants are gay, which is a despicable reason.
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;45880972]And that's the problem with this, a protest shouldn't be considered unlawful unless it's being violent, it's a human right, something Russia doesn't follow and the reason people are against Russia in this matter, yet you state there's nothing wrong with this when there is.[/QUOTE]
Unless it's the WBC. Then the whole forum suddenly changes its mind.
"We'll deliver your sexual re-education in three minutes or its on US!"
[QUOTE=bravehat;45879860]What the fuck is wrong with people, why does anyone care in the slightest where someones dick or vagina goes, and if that dick is in contact with other dicks, or those vaginas with other vaginas?
Seriously I don't get it, at all.[/QUOTE]
Because nationalism. In short, Europe is seen as the decadent west, the main enemy of Russia an is often painted as such. As such certain things about Europe are taken out of proportion and and seen as symbols of Europe.
Non traditional sexual orientations are seen as anti russian, as European and such a huge push is made against them.
On top of that, sexual or ethnic minorities are often seen as a great scapegoat and get repressed in nationalist culturarism. The culture of our fathers was tough, deeply religious and took no nonsense views against minorities as such our new found nationalist pride will do the same.
It happens pretty much time and time again. Really interestingly showcased in V for vendetta for instance.
Remember Russia and russians are currently undergoing a pretty significant nationalist phase, as such everyone who sticks out is seen as the enemy to an extent. Throw in that the russian ethnic is pretty much multiethnic anyway, you're going to be looking more at social rather than racial characteristics.
It's actually even funny when you compare it to the "radicalisation" of Europe in recent years. Because European nations tend to be homogenous, the hate is usually directed at outsider ethnics rather social mores.
Hence even very religious nations like Poland will be "relatively" accepting of gays. And that goes to the extremes of Scandinavia, to an extent some central European nations, where people don't terribly care anymore.
[QUOTE=Explosions;45881583]Unless it's the WBC. Then the whole forum suddenly changes its mind.[/QUOTE]
To be honest WBC pickets and protests would fall outside the parlor of most free speech laws around Europe due to the fact that they directly incite hate. In essence, a lot of European lawmakers would likely see no difference between a WBC rally and something like a Ku Klux Klan or neonazi rally.
A pride parade or something similar on the other hand works in the very opposite direction. It promotes acceptance and goes contrary to hate speech.
[QUOTE=Battledrobe;45880768]To be fair, there is nothing wrong with this per se. I haven't read anything about Crimea putting gays in ovens. Then it would be an issue. Preventing public gay pride parades is fully within the government's rights, as they would have the right to shoot down any other sort of parade. This is certainly not a violation of human rights.[/QUOTE]
Oh hey, it's you again! "Gays shouldn't be allowed to be themselves if bigots are about, it's the only logical thing to do".
How about you stop posting about LGBT issues? You clearly don't give the remotest of fucks about doing what is actually, unbelievably obviously right in these situations. Restricting the ability for a harmless group to assemble, a group that is marginalised and treated like filth at that, is wrong. No matter how you try and spin it. Gay pride parades do nothing more than raise awareness that, yes, bummers and lickers exist, they always have and always will, get used to it already.
A parade devolving into violence and vandalism isn't a parade any more, it's a riot. So there is no reason to restrict the ability for gay people to hold these parades, as they are not riots, and they are pretty fucking peaceful until bigots come along and make noise.
Know how Russia and Crimea were trying to play up that the new Kiev government were Nazis? About that...
[QUOTE=Streecer;45879906]specially appointed pussy patrols will provide free fleshlights to belligerent homosexuals[/QUOTE]
I'd act super gay if it meant I could get a free fleshlight, I mean fuck these things are expensive as shit
[QUOTE=Explosions;45881583]Unless it's the WBC. Then the [I]whole forum [/I]suddenly changes its mind.[/QUOTE]
Uhm no.
[QUOTE=Battledrobe;45880913]There isn't going to be any violence if the parade disperses immediately. If it doesn't, then likely violence will be used - as is the case with every single unlawful protest ever.[/QUOTE]
Just so I'm clear - is this actually what you think?
You think it's fine that a local authority can use law enforcement agencies to suppress people expressing their sexual orientation?
Obviously, I use the word "think" fucking loosely.
[QUOTE=Battledrobe;45880913]There isn't going to be any violence if the parade disperses immediately. If it doesn't, then likely violence will be used - as is the case with every single unlawful protest ever.[/QUOTE]
Do you think the police's actions in Ferguson are justified too?
On topic though. I take it by "our police and self-defence forces will react immediately and in three minutes will explain to them what kind of sexual orientation they should stick to", he means "we're going to extrajudicially beat, harass and abuse LGBT rights demonstrators". Despicable.
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