Joe Biden sees 'no legal reason' why we can't tax violent video games
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[QUOTE=asteroidrules;40648882]Any religion is open to interpretation, it's all up to how the person practicing sees it. Islam, Christianity, and Judaism have some pretty good things outlined in their basic beliefs as well, alms-giving (charity) is one of the five pillars of Islam, and the Christian and Jewish Ten commandments both forbid murder and theft. A lot of religions have pretty similar basic principals.[/QUOTE]
that's why i said it's more grey. while there are certainly good things in the abrahamic religions, there is also a lot of justification for murder and genocide.
i've yet to see the same justification from buddhist philosophy.
The declaration of independence says that life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are unalienable rights, video games are a form of entertainment, which is basically the pursuit of (short term at least) happiness.
Joe Biden hates the declaration of independence.
[QUOTE=zakedodead;40649034]The declaration of independence says that life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are unalienable rights, video games are a form of entertainment, which is basically the pursuit of (short term at least) happiness.
Joe Biden hates the declaration of independence.[/QUOTE]
You're stretching it a bit far.
If I say I love mass murder, I don't think I get the rights to murder people.
We'd just be living in a big pile of shit if we allowed everyone to do whatever they wanted if it made them happy.
He's still stupid for trying to tax this though.
[QUOTE=zakedodead;40649034]The declaration of independence says that life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are unalienable rights, video games are a form of entertainment, which is basically the pursuit of (short term at least) happiness.
Joe Biden hates the declaration of independence.[/QUOTE]
declaration of independence is just a feel-good document with no real recognition or legal standing.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;40648318]Free speech? It's a form of consumer entertainment, not a political manifesto.[/QUOTE]
Video games are protected under the first AND the fourteenth amendments of the constitution from a ruling from the supreme court: [url=http://cdn0.sbnation.com/podcasts/SC-video-games.pdf]Brown v. Entertainment Merchants Association[/url]
[quote=Justice Scalia]Like the protected books, plays, and movies that preceded them, video games communicate ideas—and even social messages—through many familiar literary devices (such as characters, dialogue, plot, and music) and through features distinctive to the medium (such as the player's interaction with the virtual world). That suffices to confer First Amendment protection.[/quote]
The whole tax video games thing is a political manifesto and will only end with it becoming a invalid tax law.
What is probably going to have to happen is that only those over x age will only be allowed to purchase certain games (as in a actual US law and not self regulating stores which wont do fucking anything but would simply be their "feel good" law).
[QUOTE=yawmwen;40649059]declaration of independence is just a feel-good document with no real recognition or legal standing.[/QUOTE]
I know, but I was trying to channel my inner Limbaugh.
I'm calling it righ here and now: They pass a "Violent" game tax by an overwhelming margin. About a month or so before it is officially put into effect, they conveniently decide to "do intensive studies into video games", pretty much some bull to wrongfully brand more games as "violent" so they can "protect" us by gouging us on a more diverse assortment of games.
Great, then the remaining people who actually buy games will resort to pirating instead. Brilliant idea, A+, 10/10, here trophy
"religious representatives to discuss gun control"
That's like virgins discussing sex.
Fuck you, old fart.
Even if I don't live in US, this is the stupidest thing I've yet to know about.
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[QUOTE=jordguitar;40649064]What is probably going to have to happen is that only those over x age will only be allowed to purchase certain games (as in a actual US law and not self regulating stores which wont do fucking anything but would simply be their "feel good" law).[/QUOTE]
The "x age" limitation thing will never happen. So many game stores selling under the counter or stupid kids exploiting their parents to buy them those games.
No education, no sense of age limitation, [sp]cause most parents with children/teens are retarded nowadays. They just cannot say NO to their stupid kids[/sp].
[QUOTE=Hullu V3;40649508]"religious representatives to discuss gun control"
That's like virgins discussing sex.[/QUOTE]
I thought gun nuts and bible thumpers went hand in hand.
Why can't we tax bullshit? The world would be saved with that tax!
[QUOTE=No_Excuses;40650053]I thought gun nuts and bible thumpers went hand in hand.[/QUOTE]
Murdercube is the only god. :v:
Can we tax his ugly fucking face?
[QUOTE=Moustacheman;40648933]Jesus and Muhammed called for cooperation between religions, but after the Age of Omar, the teachings of Islam were bastardized. As for Jesus, the Catholic Church became corrupt and decided to use God as an excuse to fuck everyone.[/QUOTE]
jesus called for cooperation between jews and nothing else. this message was changed to everyone later on for conveniences sake (thanks paul!).
mohammed did indeed call for the cooperation between "the peoples of the scripture", but a prominent (iirc) group of jews in arabia didn't want to assist him against his enemies, so the change in attitude towards jews in the quran is apparent as it changes quite a bit if you read the sura's in chronological order.
[editline]15th May 2013[/editline]
[quote]In a meeting with religious representatives to discuss gun control, Vice President Biden said there would be "no restriction on the ability" to tax violent games and that there was "no legal reason why they couldn't."[/quote]
"meeting with religious representatives" lol
every time somebody mentions "violent video games" seriously I can't help but think of this
[video=youtube;mB6fq9Aadwk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB6fq9Aadwk[/video]
The reason you shouldn't tax video games is common sense. Selling and buying video games doesn't hurt anyone so there's no reason to prevent people from doing so by artificially raising the price through taxes.
I have determined that joe biden has a facepunch account and his name is ''winged wizard''.
[IMG]http://img.ibtimes.com/www/data/images/full/2013/05/14/370062.jpg[/IMG]
[I]"And this is how big my penis is."[/I]
I think we should tax dumbass politicians too while we are at it.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;40648249]The tax is supposed to go to victims and their family. He's insinuating that violent video games are responsible for those deaths.[/QUOTE]
isn't that libel?
[QUOTE=Roger Waters;40650887]isn't that libel?[/QUOTE]
Pretty much, but tough chance that anyone will get him to understand that.
[QUOTE=Joeyl10;40648327]"violent video games" is such a broad term.[/QUOTE]Look, I'm playing Mario games and stomping on goombas! Better tax me, because y'know stomping on a mushroom as a short Italian man is [B]really[/B] violent!
funny how you all like joe biden and cheer him on until he threatens your precious fucking video games
[QUOTE=teh pirate;40651152]funny how you all like joe biden and cheer him on until he threatens your precious fucking video games[/QUOTE]Yep, [B]all[/B] of us.
[QUOTE=teh pirate;40651152]funny how you all like joe biden and cheer him on until he threatens your precious fucking video games[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it's a good idea. We should just add arbitrary taxes and restrictions to everything we don't like. Certainly that'll fix all of society's problems.
[QUOTE=Roger Waters;40650887]isn't that libel?[/QUOTE]
Slander is the word your looking for (and to answer- no this isn't slander)
Slander is verbal/ libel is written
Not slander- I think Amy looks like a whore
Slander (if its not true)- Amy is a whore and a prostitute
(For these examples assume this is spoken- as written is libel)
Tl/dr- it's not slander to imply video games cause gun violence unless you can prove conclusively they do not (few other things to prove as well such as intent to harm, and it was a harmful statement not an opinion)
What's a good video game for them honestly? Cuddle McSissypants on Candyland Adventure?
How do you decide which video games are violent
I can't remember the last game I've played where someone hasn't died
Would be better to have some better verification for games and enforce the 18 ratings for children under 13.
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