Massachusetts female game developer forced to flee home after receiving death threats - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Kommodore;46223483]lol not even a page before peoplee tried to bargain against the op's claim from every angle "Everyone gets death threats" "Women in game design deny mysoginy exists" "Another woman already lied about this so this one probably did too" pedants[/QUOTE] no one is really denying it, just its funny how GG gets slandered to shit when the other side is just as, if not worse.

[QUOTE=Mattk50;46223479]my observation is that GG side probably has more actual relevant people but anti-gg has a huge news network they're using the spread misinformation and gain more and more people, especially in the uninvolved public[/QUOTE] There is no "anti-GG". There's a variety of people that try to respond to GG in their own way. The whole GG movement has been unwieldy bullshit from the beginning, because once you try to engage with them, you get accusation thrown at you that have been disproven months back. You still hear folks going on about how Quinn slept with journos for good reviews while no such thing happened. John Walker wrote a very informative post on it here: [url]http://botherer.org/2014/10/12/a-thing-about-gamergate/[/url] How did GG respond? Well the main narrative seems to be John Walker lied about his supposed abuse of course! Doesn't matter that it's bullshit, GGers gobbled it up and are still giving him shit for it even though the claim was flawed to begin with [url]http://botherer.org/2014/10/13/sigh/[/url] GG is nothing more than madness thinking it's a movement. If you care about videogame journalism ethics, get the hell out and carry your own banner.

nice blanket statement, next you'll say any minorities that use #notyourshield are actually white

The fuck does pro/anti-GG even mean? I was under the impression that GG was the name of the scandel, not the name of one of the teams involved?

[QUOTE=Hat-Wearing Man;46223476]correct that's misandry[/QUOTE] It's neither. It's called being a dick.

[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;46223012][url=http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/2014/10/11/video-game-developer-twitter-rape-death-threats-forced-from-home/FjC4cjeqwEDxWFeeVpyWSP/story.html]Source: The Boston Globe[/url][/QUOTE] Reading through the article, and I find it funny how they mention that this all started when Wu tried to make fun of #GGers by making a meme of a crying kid of it. What the article doesn't mention, is that the photo is of an autistic Asian child used for an adverb about raising awareness of autism under children. So she not only makes openly fun of minorities, but autistic children as well. And we have to listen and believe about how she is the moral high ground in that case? Bullshit, I say. Those people are hypocritical as shit. They want to paint the #gamergate side off as misogynistic white males, while in reality, it consists of people of all races and gender just coming up for their hobby: gaming. Oh, and about the doxx, everyone on the #gg side condemned it as it happened: [t]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzoDAIaCYAEuPJ8.jpg[/t] Yet the article only shows the death threat tweets: [t]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzoEfv5IEAAV2GY.jpg[/t] And this all happened into the time span of ten minutes? Including the appearance of an account who out of the blue appears only to make death threats at her? Seems awfully convenient. Also, a slight recap of the event: [t]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzpkqBtCcAAfJT7.png[/t] And it is also implicated that Wu used nepotism to promote her iOs game in the past, as seen [URL="https://archive.today/Pfxlm"]Halfway down this archived thread about the Wu doxxing, in the highlighted post.[/URL] This whole thing reeks of a false flag. It didn't help either that one of her friends pretty much went 'Oh look at this oppressed woman getting harassed by those evil #gamergaters, please support her game!' not even ten minutes after the threats were made. Meanwhile, a female college professor supporting #gamergate gets doxxed, and nobody in the media even bats an eye at it. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/PxxSMvt.png[/IMG] And the list goes just on and on. People on the #gamergate side get doxxed and threats to their address too, but the moment someone who is against it gets death threats from someone who has no visible links to #gamergate at all, it is all over the news while lambasting the very diverse crowd of people who have gaming as a hobby that they are all horrid people for picking on women. Apparently, playing a game with my younger brother makes a womanhater now according to them. Meanwhile, they just get away with even dirtier crap, such as getting people on the #gamergate side fired, and we are supposed to be the bad guys here?

[QUOTE=Clavus;46223700]There is no "anti-GG". There's a variety of people that try to respond to GG in their own way. The whole GG movement has been unwieldy bullshit from the beginning, because once you try to engage with them, you get accusation thrown at you that have been disproven months back. You still hear folks going on about how Quinn slept with journos for good reviews while no such thing happened. John Walker wrote a very informative post on it here: [URL]http://botherer.org/2014/10/12/a-thing-about-gamergate/[/URL] How did GG respond? Well the main narrative seems to be John Walker lied about his supposed abuse of course! Doesn't matter that it's bullshit, GGers gobbled it up and are still giving him shit for it even though the claim was flawed to begin with [URL]http://botherer.org/2014/10/13/sigh/[/URL] GG is nothing more than madness thinking it's a movement. If you care about videogame journalism ethics, get the hell out and carry your own banner.[/QUOTE] 1. Zoey quinn is barely relevant anymore since its main focus is agenda pushing to the extreme and punishing devs that don't follow said agenda when their livelihoods are centered on said game. 2. Head GG people have been open arms to any information while condemning any violent or offensive action towards anti-GG since it just fuels their fire to start the blame game again. 3. There is an extreme side of anti-GG on tumblr and Gawker sites, claiming a false blanket statement that gamers are mad that women are entering the market when its really SJW bullies enter the market and try to bend it to what they want with death threats, blackmail, doxxing, and lobbying with major game publications.

[QUOTE=Kommodore;46223483]lol not even a page before peoplee tried to bargain against the op's claim from every angle "Everyone gets death threats" "Women in game design deny mysoginy exists" "Another woman already lied about this so this one probably did too" pedants[/QUOTE] My favorite: "GamerGate isn't about misogyny! It's just a coincidence that 86% of the people we targeted happened to be women, and the 'evidence' we used to convict them in the court of Internet witch-mobbing just happened to be personal anecdotes!" And then there's the old "anything bad that happens that I disagree with is a false-flag" line, pulled straight from the conspiracy theorist's handbook.

gamergate isn't important enough for people to care about making false flag attacks

[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;46223792]My favorite: "GamerGate isn't about misogyny! It's just a coincidence that 86% of the people we targeted happened to be women, and the 'evidence' we used to convict them in the court of Internet witch-mobbing just happened to be personal anecdotes!"[/QUOTE] the fucking article you linked said it was most likely SA and not GG or 8chan. christ you're thick.

Can this shit [i]please[/i] just die already? Seriously, I can't fathom how anyone could give a fuck any more, It's just a bunch of assholes getting worked up over shit that doesn't matter.

[QUOTE=Starlight 456;46223805]Can this shit [i]please[/i] just die already? Seriously, I can't fathom how anyone could give a fuck any more, It's just a bunch of assholes getting worked up over shit that doesn't matter.[/QUOTE] Its a huge fucking deal with indie devs that have extremely amazing games get shunned to hell in gaming media because they dont support their agendas, or how IGF has been corrupt from the start.

[QUOTE=Starlight 456;46223805]Can this shit [i]please[/i] just die already? Seriously, I can't fathom how anyone could give a fuck any more, It's just a bunch of assholes getting worked up over shit that doesn't matter.[/QUOTE] how about you do some reading and take a look at both sides before farting out of your mouth as long as the white boy game journo club keeps whitewashing me and saying that I'm in fact not a minority, but actually a fat white neckbeard who wants to kill all women, this shit isn't going to end

Ok, now these fuckers are just targeting random people I didn't even know about. That's just fucking sick. I mean Anita you could see it coming to that, same with the writer for ME3. But now it's just random female devs. What cruel person even thinks this is an ethical way to get people to stop making games they don't like?

[QUOTE=CommanderPT;46223199]She even said herself that it wasn't about gamergate.[/QUOTE] Why does she bring it up then? She is clearly Anti-GG [url]https://twitter.com/Spacekatgal/status/520282355567964160/photo/1[/url]

[QUOTE=Diet Kane;46223822]how about you do some reading and take a look at both sides before farting out of your mouth as long as the white boy game journo club keeps whitewashing me and saying that I'm in fact not a minority, but actually a fat white neckbeard who wants to kill all women, this shit isn't going to end[/QUOTE] you could put those "just ignoring death threats" skills to work and ignore them? games journalism literally doesn't need to exist in any form. you can continue to play games without reading stupid gaming publications

[QUOTE=Venezuelan;46223863]you could put those death threat skills to work[/QUOTE] wow nice. literally once again, I and the dozens of other women and other minorities that support gamergate, are all murderous white men. of course, we're always sending death threats everyday! the opposing side isn't telling us that we're stupid and don't know any better, and that we need pompous snobby upper class white men to tell us how to think! it's not like most gamergaters protest by sending letters to advertisers to pull ads from sites that support writers like leigh "going rambo on sambo" alexander! no of course, all we do is sit in our gamergate mailroom and mail out death threats Gamergate has changed since it first started. It isn't some stupid drama poke into Zoe Quinn's personal life. When it was that, I ignored and stayed out of it because it was stupid. But it's changed into something different. People who play games are tired of being vilified by the bourgeois snobs of Verge and Polygon just because they like to play games. We're tired of being grouped up with assholes who want to make gaming uncomfortable for women. We're doing something, and it's hilarious how assholes like you and the majority of gaming media figures just ignore it wholesale because it rocks your precious little worldview apart. tl;dr fuck you gwai lo

[QUOTE=Diet Kane;46223920]wow nice. literally once again, I and the dozens of other women and other minorities that support gamergate, are all murderous white men. of course, we're always sending death threats everyday! the opposing side isn't telling us that we're stupid and don't know any better, and that we need pompous snobby upper class white men to tell us how to think! it's not like most gamergaters protest by sending letters to advertisers to pull ads from sites that support writers like leigh "going rambo on sambo" alexander! no of course, all we do is sit in our gamergate mailroom and mail out death threats Gamergate has changed since it first started. It isn't some stupid drama poke into Zoe Quinn's personal life. When it was that, I ignored and stayed out of it because it was stupid. But it's changed into something different. People who play games are tired of being vilified by the bourgeois snobs of Verge and Polygon just because they like to play games. We're tired of being grouped up with assholes who want to make gaming uncomfortable for women. We're doing something, and it's hilarious how assholes like you and the majority of gaming media figures just ignore it wholesale because it rocks your precious little worldview apart. tl;dr fuck you gwai lo[/QUOTE] I actually meant skills in ignoring death threats but yeah that didn't come across well flying off the handle like that just proves my point that you are bad at ignoring stuff tho

anytime someone does anything drastically that may harm our image as a movement they're actually not us, really. it's not us. we are the good guys.

[QUOTE=Venezuelan;46223928]I actually meant skills in ignoring death threats but yeah that didn't come across well flying off the handle like that just proves my point that you are bad at ignoring stuff tho[/QUOTE] nice job editing your previous post to save face and "ha look he got mad, that means he's a stupid kid!" doesn't make you look any wiser or better. It just makes you look like a prick who belittles others.

[QUOTE=Diet Kane;46223986]nice job editing your previous post to save face and "ha look he got mad, that means he's a stupid kid!" doesn't make you look any wiser or better. It just makes you look like a prick who belittles others.[/QUOTE] um I edited it because you made me realize it didn't say what I wanted it to say? How can I save face on something you already quoted here this should help [url]http://facepunch.com/profile.php?do=addlist&userlist=ignore&u=448586[/url] bye

[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;46223792]My favorite: "GamerGate isn't about misogyny! It's just a coincidence that 86% of the people we targeted happened to be women, and the 'evidence' we used to convict them in the court of Internet witch-mobbing just happened to be personal anecdotes!" And then there's the old "anything bad that happens that I disagree with is a false-flag" line, pulled straight from the conspiracy theorist's handbook.[/QUOTE] I'm just waiting for you to grow up so you can see how a shit poster you are. You disregard anything that goes against your point of view.

[QUOTE=bunguer;46224019]I'm just waiting for you to grow up so you can see how a shit poster you are. You disregard anything that goes against your point of view.[/QUOTE] I just haven't seen any compelling arguments that this is anything more than attacking women in the gaming industry.

[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;46224079]I just haven't seen any compelling arguments that this is anything more than attacking women in the gaming industry.[/QUOTE]You have, you're just pretending otherwise to create a convenient narrative giving you an excuse to look down on others.

[QUOTE=Juniez;46223943]anytime someone does anything drastically that may harm our image as a movement they're actually not us, really. it's not us. we are the good guys.[/QUOTE] these movements can't exist as a public open discussion without these people existing. You can't criticize a huge group of people based on that. The journalists on the other hand, are getting paid and have editors and whatnot to check and double check them. And yet, their anonymous followers are also sending death threads and being dumbasses. This stuff is just native to the internet by saying that a movement should be ignored or dismissed based on the presence of these people is to say that no consumer movements should exist period.

[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;46224079]I just haven't seen any compelling arguments that this is anything more than attacking women in the gaming industry.[/QUOTE] Nor have we seen any compelling arguments that it's just a misogynist conspiracy.

[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;46224079]I just haven't seen any compelling arguments that this is anything more than attacking women in the gaming industry.[/QUOTE] The thing is that you are simply ignoring the evidence. Maybe a few weeks ago I would've understand since the whole situation was a complete mess but now we have quite a few developers come out and speak about the situation, and if anything, it is now clearer than ever that anything that is pro-gg is simple shown in bad light by the media.

I'd like to take a step to the side and just point this out, a lot of people have been doing this and it's been bugging me. [QUOTE=Dermock;46223511]Spess has been hatebonering against GG for a while and shitposting in the corruption thread. EDIT// Seriously, that fucking title. It's like I'm reading a bloody editorial.// Also, if you looked in to it, you'd know that the threats are more from SA than GG.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=bunguer;46224019]I'm just waiting for you to grow up so you can see how a shit poster you are. You disregard anything that goes against your point of view.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;46224098]You have, you're just pretending otherwise to create a convenient narrative giving you an excuse to look down on others.[/QUOTE] This isn't how you argue. X is terrible, X is to be ignored, x is pretending, X should just look it up himself. If you're gonna refute him refute him with evidence and facts, not just dismiss the person talking and tell them to read it up themselves.

[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;46224079]I just haven't seen any compelling arguments that this is anything more than attacking women in the gaming industry.[/QUOTE] You've been shown evidence of it time and time again in the numerous threads you've started/entered just to flame and troll.

TFYC. A video game development project that was successfully funded by people who supported/not supported the hashtags who saw promise in a project meant to bring game made by a female game developer to light. 75k$ were raised. What's more, I don't recall the project ever being brought to light by major publications (Too often). A dispute had caused the project to fail it's funding goal first time they tried it. What do you have to say about that?