Australian man who took bad Ecstasy pill, now crippled shares video which has gone viral.
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[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;49206316]I was unaware "pingas" has become slang for extacy.[/QUOTE]
Pingas, dingas, dingbats, "pills", mdm8 is all the slang for it around here
[QUOTE=valkery;49206184]If I knew as a 17 y/o idiot on the streets that MDMA was neurotoxic and that there is a regimen of pills and supplements to take before, during and after a trip, this guy gets no sympathy from me.
Not to mention tester kits.[/QUOTE]
man, i thought MDMA was supposed to make you happy, not turn you into a sociopath
"heh, permanent neurological damage? should've gotten good, kid"
[QUOTE=TheHydra;49206844]man, i thought MDMA was supposed to make you happy, not turn you into a sociopath
"heh, permanent neurological damage? should've gotten good, kid"[/QUOTE]
Just saying he should have done his due diligence. Ignore safe parameters with powerful drugs and you'll get burned every time.
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;49206110]Well the problem is that MDMA itself doesn't cause this. Dealers/manufacturers end up doing shady shit by cutting other nasty crap into pills which their customers do not know about. That's how you see others dying or just getting floored. Every time you pop one you take a risk not knowing where it came from which is the scary thing.[/QUOTE]
Ya just like weed they blame the drug for the manufacturers, yes weed strains exist that can mess you up permanently, yes there are doses of mdma that can do bad stuff, but blanket banning them is actually making the problem worse, regulate it, make acceptable standards that you have to obey to sell it, we do the same thing with alcohol
[QUOTE=valkery;49206184]If I knew as a 17 y/o idiot on the streets that MDMA was neurotoxic and that there is a regimen of pills and supplements to take before, during and after a trip, this guy gets no sympathy from me.
Not to mention tester kits.[/QUOTE]
that doesn't justify not having empathy, lol
in fact you sound like quite a prick right now
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[QUOTE=Sableye;49206910]Ya just like weed they blame the drug for the manufacturers, [B]yes weed strains exist that can mess you up permanently[/B], yes there are doses of mdma that can do bad stuff, but blanket banning them is actually making the problem worse, regulate it, make acceptable standards that you have to obey to sell it, we do the same thing with alcohol[/QUOTE]
Where?
[QUOTE=Kylel999;49206935]that doesn't justify not having empathy, lol
in fact you sound like quite a prick right now[/QUOTE]
having zero sympathy is pretty messed up, but i am less sympathetic since this very well could have been avoided by him had he done his proper research and done proper harm reduction techniques. it is terrible what has happened to him and i wish it hadn't, but there is a level of personal responsibility required if you're going to take a substance, personal responsibility he neglected. you'd feel less sympathetic for someone who got burnt playing with fire, wouldn't you?
[QUOTE=Scot;49206579]Then I guess you can never consume anything new ever again because you're not 100% sure how you'll react to it.
I mean I'm not stupid I know there's a difference between taking a drug and eating an apple but at the end of the day the amount of people who have had a dangerous reaction to MDMA is incredibly low. I'm sure there have been things you've taken/done in your life that while may have been legal were far more likely to have killed you, you just don't know it. Demonising drugs because they've killed people is like demonising cars. Actually it isn't since a few dozen people have died in a car accident since I started writing this post while I highly doubt anyone has from MDMA use.[/QUOTE]
As a person with no stake in this argument, I have to say that comparing the bodies reaction to drugs to driving doesn't feel like a solid comparison. Both have their dangers but I don't see how you can compare them besides unrelated statistics.
Also, the danger lies more in being burned, and getting weird mixtures sold under a common name. Either that or unforseen drug interactions, which can really fuck you up in my experience.
Now I'm reading the dude had taken several other drugs along with whatever was mixed with the mdma.
don't know how legit this is:
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[QUOTE=0x0000000C;49206130]What the actual fuck is pingas?
Pingas means dicks in Panamanian dialect.[/QUOTE]
Snooping as usual, I see?
Honest question, how can you tell if recreational drugs are legit? Even the ones you buy instead of taking from a friend at a party, are you just supposed to find a trustworthy dealer and hope he doesn't fuck up? Goes for MDMA/Ectasy/LSD/etc.
[QUOTE=latin_geek;49207367]Honest question, how can you tell if recreational drugs are legit? Even the ones you buy instead of taking from a friend at a party, are you just supposed to find a trustworthy dealer and hope he doesn't fuck up? Goes for MDMA/Ectasy/LSD/etc.[/QUOTE]
Tester kits.
[url]http://www.amazon.com/Panel-Drug-Testing-Different-Drugs/dp/B017OEXXF8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1448770005&sr=8-2&keywords=molly+test+kit[/url]
Although with LSD, it's more like "taste the tab, if it's got a flavor, spit that shit back out. If it's flavorless, you're probably okay."
[QUOTE=latin_geek;49207367]Honest question, how can you tell if recreational drugs are legit? Even the ones you buy instead of taking from a friend at a party, are you just supposed to find a trustworthy dealer and hope he doesn't fuck up? Goes for MDMA/Ectasy/LSD/etc.[/QUOTE]
best way to stay safe is to never purchase from the street, only buy from dark net markets. strangely enough they're actually more accountable for their quality as they have a reputation to uphold which is far easier to track than the reputation of a steet dealer since they need to keep good ratings and get good reviews in order to keep getting customers. if someone is selling cut shit then multiple someones will mention it in a review
[QUOTE=Scot;49206452]how do you prevent getting struck by lightning?[/QUOTE]
Not going outside in a thunderstorm on hills or under trees.
Your analogy doesn't hold up because this is like taking a lightning rod out into a thunderstorm. Sure, you might not get hit, but your odds are significantly higher than someone who decided to stay inside.
[QUOTE=Megadave;49207113]Now I'm reading the dude had taken several other drugs along with whatever was mixed with the mdma.
don't know how legit this is:
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And straight away that's way too much, even for some experienced users. Doing that much in a short amount of time, especially that it's ecstasy, ketamine & speed all combined, of course you're gonna get fucked up hard
Claiming it was one yet it was that much, holy crap. Someone's on a money grab
I wouldnt take any drug from a stranger, really. I wouldn't even buy weed from a guy I don't know (I don't smoke weed, for that matter). My friend once bought some weed from a dude and there was some PCP in it. He didn't jump off a building or anything but he was freaking out the whole time.
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;49207026]having zero sympathy is pretty messed up, but i am less sympathetic since this very well could have been avoided by him had he done his proper research and done proper harm reduction techniques. it is terrible what has happened to him and i wish it hadn't, but there is a level of personal responsibility required if you're going to take a substance, personal responsibility he neglected. you'd feel less sympathetic for someone who got burnt playing with fire, wouldn't you?[/QUOTE]
oh fuck off
its easy to say stuff like that in hindsight right
[QUOTE=gee;49208151]oh fuck off
its easy to say stuff like that in hindsight right[/QUOTE]
when discussing something like drug use there should be no hindsight. you should know exactly what you are taking, and know as much as you can about it before taking it. you're messing around with something that can kill you if you're irresponsible. with the internet being a source of information for everything you would want to know about nearly any substance and harm reduction guides for them, there is no excuse for irresponsible drug use.
what would you think of someone who drove drunk and died in an accident? someone who shot themselves accidentally because they were messing around with a gun and looking down the barrel? someone who dies in a skydiving accident because they didn't check their chute before the jump? all of these are tragic yet avoidable had they taken the proper precautions.
I've had dodgy pills before. My mate reckons they were PMA.
It might have been the lighting in the club but people looked like they had disfigured faces or was wearing masks. Weirdest shit
Buying the crystal form of MDMA is always best, crush dat shit up and rub a tiny bit on your gums. Wait 40 mins, if you feel normal then you're good to go.
[QUOTE=NorthernFall;49208601]Buying the crystal form of MDMA is always best, crush dat shit up and rub a tiny bit on your gums. Wait 40 mins, if you feel normal then you're good to go.[/QUOTE]
Tiny bit on your gums LOL nice way to fuck up your teeth.
Just get reliable dealer and test your shit.
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[QUOTE=shutter_eye5;49207812]And straight away that's way too much, even for some experienced users. Doing that much in a short amount of time, especially that it's ecstasy, ketamine & speed all combined, of course you're gonna get fucked up hard
Claiming it was one yet it was that much, holy crap. Someone's on a money grab[/QUOTE]
18 pills, $300 ketamine, $200 speed
This is enough od drugs to be rekt for whole month.
[QUOTE=Sableye;49206910]Ya just like weed they blame the drug for the manufacturers, yes [B]weed strains exist that can mess you up permanently[/B], yes there are doses of mdma that can do bad stuff, but blanket banning them is actually making the problem worse, regulate it, make acceptable standards that you have to obey to sell it, we do the same thing with alcohol[/QUOTE]
If you're referring to the recent study about potent cannabis strains and your brains, then don't worry, it doesn't mess you up.
I don't like how everyone is making this about whether or not he took what is described a safe amount/combination/type of drugs. That's missing the point entirely. I don't care what amount of any drug you took or what testing kit you have, there's a realistic chance of shit like this just happening to any normal person whether it's misinformation or abuse. The fact that this happens at all is enough for him to spread the idea of not risking your life and livelihood for something that wont last.
[QUOTE=Anax;49209269]I don't like how everyone is making this about whether or not he took what is described a safe amount/combination/type of drugs. That's missing the point entirely. I don't care what amount of any drug you took or what testing kit you have, there's a realistic chance of shit like this just happening to any normal person whether it's misinformation or abuse. The fact that this happens at all is enough for him to spread the idea of not risking your life and livelihood for something that wont last.[/QUOTE]
i think it should be common sense to research the safe dosage and usage for stuff you know are risks behind.
I've never done illicit drugs in my life, and I personally wouldn't find it difficult to reject taking drugs such as ecstasy. I used to want to try maruijana but now, I just don't really care. What makes people want to take these drugs so much? (not trying to say these drugs are poison). Maybe I'm just a boring person? I mean if I went to a party I probably wouldn't find it difficult to enjoy myself.
[QUOTE=latin_geek;49207367]Honest question, how can you tell if recreational drugs are legit? Even the ones you buy instead of taking from a friend at a party, are you just supposed to find a trustworthy dealer and hope he doesn't fuck up? Goes for MDMA/Ectasy/LSD/etc.[/QUOTE]
In the Netherlands you can send your drugs to a laboratory and they'll test it and send back the information. They might to take one of the pills if it isn't in their database but that's like 5 euro so it's kinda worth it.
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[QUOTE=NorthernFall;49208601]Buying the crystal form of MDMA is always best, crush dat shit up and rub a tiny bit on your gums. Wait 40 mins, if you feel normal then you're good to go.[/QUOTE]
Capsules are better IMO but who ever has those on hand.
[QUOTE=343N;49209360]I've never done illicit drugs in my life, and I personally wouldn't find it difficult to reject taking drugs such as ecstasy. I used to want to try maruijana but now, I just don't really care. What makes people want to take these drugs so much? (not trying to say these drugs are poison). Maybe I'm just a boring person? I mean if I went to a party I probably wouldn't find it difficult to enjoy myself.[/QUOTE]
Not wanting to take drugs does not make you boring person.
It's always the opposite, biggest druggies always talk about how much they took of something, when, where they took it, how wasted they got and all this boring shit.
drugs are pointless tbh
too much hassle
[QUOTE=Anax;49209269]I don't like how everyone is making this about whether or not he took what is described a safe amount/combination/type of drugs. That's missing the point entirely. I don't care what amount of any drug you took or what testing kit you have, there's a realistic chance of shit like this just happening to any normal person whether it's misinformation or abuse. The fact that this happens at all is enough for him to spread the idea of not risking your life and livelihood for something that wont last.[/QUOTE]
Same can be said with about every drug, legal and illegal, even caffeine. Some people just can't take drugs.
[QUOTE=343N;49209360]I've never done illicit drugs in my life, and I personally wouldn't find it difficult to reject taking drugs such as ecstasy. I used to want to try maruijana but now, I just don't really care. What makes people want to take these drugs so much? (not trying to say these drugs are poison). Maybe I'm just a boring person? I mean if I went to a party I probably wouldn't find it difficult to enjoy myself.[/QUOTE]
I've never done a drug because I knew I wouldn't be able to enjoy myself otherwise. MDMA is a very interesting drug, not only does it cause a large amount of Serotonin to be released it also causes a unique surge in both your energy and empathy. It becomes easier to connect and talk to people and you form strong connections to those you are with. Its absolutely great to do some at a music festival or rave to give you the energy to enjoy the entire night as well as making you a social butterfly. Hopefully that answers your question a bit as to why people consume Ecstasy or more properly, MDMA. And of course, you are not a boring person for not wanting to partake in illicit drugs, however remember just because something is illegal doesn't mean its the worst thing for you.
[QUOTE=Scot;49206485]The odds of being struck by lightning in your lifetime is 1/12,000
It's definitely safer doing a moderate dose of MDMA than walking around outside.[/QUOTE]
The only way this argument would possibly work was if the MDMA made you impervious to lightning. Otherwise you're at risk for the Lightning as well as the MDMA now. Still increasing the chances something bad would happen.
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