• Surgeons resign after putting bowel bacteria in terminal cancer patient's brains.
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[QUOTE=catbarf;41967739]It may be unethical, but it's still a damn sight better than deliberately infecting unwilling victims with lethal bacteria for the sake of research.[/QUOTE] deliberately infecting unwilling victims with lethal bacteria for the sake of research. deliberately infecting desperate victims with lethal bacteria for the sake of research. whats the difference when they did it KNOWING it wasn't tested and everyone that knew better rejected it? I know you have to make leaps and bounds for medical advancements but this is just silly.
"Hey lets make these terminal cancer patients shit for brains lmao"
[QUOTE=J!NX;41967443]this is something you'd see on scrubs sounds like a good idea if your drunk [b]I mean I have no damn medical training[/b] but I'm very certain this is a bad idea. Shit doesn't belong in the brain.[/QUOTE] Exactly, you have no medical training. These doctors dedicated their lives to medicine. I'm sure it is much more complicated than just "sticking bacteria in the brain".
[QUOTE=TheCloak;41969125]Exactly, you have no medical training. These doctors dedicated their lives to medicine. I'm sure it is much more complicated than just "sticking bacteria in the brain".[/QUOTE] I guess that dedication didn't work very well in the end. especially considering how they didn't test it and it was rejected multiple times.
[QUOTE=J!NX;41968650]deliberately infecting unwilling victims with lethal bacteria for the sake of research. [b]// not relevant as the patients consented[/b] [b]deliberately infecting desperate victims with lethal bacteria for the sake of research.[/b] whats the difference when they did it KNOWING it wasn't tested and everyone that knew better rejected it? I know you have to make leaps and bounds for medical advancements but this is just silly.[/QUOTE] These patients are dying, will-be-dead in months. Yes, they deliberately placed bacteria in the patient's brains, with their consent, as part of research to cure cancer. [quote]whats the difference when they did it KNOWING it wasn't tested and everyone that knew better rejected it?[/quote] The difference is now they have a sample size of 3 instead of a sample size of 0. You do not know what you are talking about so please stop replying [editline]26th August 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=J!NX;41969137]I guess that dedication didn't work very well in the end. especially considering how they didn't test it and it was rejected multiple times.[/QUOTE] Let me point you to [url=http://www.cracked.com/article_18822_5-famous-scientists-dismissed-as-morons-in-their-time_p2.html]this article[/url] which helps you to understand why it does not 100% matter that they were "rejected" multiple times.
They also explicitly ignored all they learned in medical school and went ahead with a procedure that people very much know what they're talking about said "no" to And did they tell the patients that it is untested and they had to BYPASS the system just to get it through? [QUOTE=TheCloak;41969154]These patients are dying, will-be-dead in months. Yes, they deliberately placed bacteria in the patient's brains, with their consent, as part of research to cure cancer. The difference is now they have a sample size of 3 instead of a sample size of 0. You do not know what you are talking about so please stop replying [editline]26th August 2013[/editline] Let me point you to [url=http://www.cracked.com/article_18822_5-famous-scientists-dismissed-as-morons-in-their-time_p2.html]this article[/url] which helps you to understand why it does not 100% matter that they were "rejected" multiple times.[/QUOTE] Sample size? You mean like animal testing? Also, these people deliberately ignored systems and warnings to get an idea that isn't necessarily revolutionary. They should have WAITED and SEEN THE RESULTS regardless of how long it takes.
[QUOTE=Jeep-Eep;41967693]What I am referring to is a specific subtype of your immune cells - B-Cell line - who's role is to provide fast response to recurring threats. Think reservists Edit: this image give you a potted idea of the force organization: [IMG]http://www.virtualmedicalcentre.com/uploads/VMC/Anatomy/Immune_system_large.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Don't even bother. As much fun as it is to explain cool concepts you learn, you have to remind yourself that the mean age here is like 15, within a very narrow bell curve.
[QUOTE=TheCloak;41969154]These patients are dying, will-be-dead in months. Yes, they deliberately placed bacteria in the patient's brains, with their consent, as part of research to cure cancer. The difference is now they have a sample size of 3 instead of a sample size of 0. You do not know what you are talking about so please stop replying [editline]26th August 2013[/editline] Let me point you to [url=http://www.cracked.com/article_18822_5-famous-scientists-dismissed-as-morons-in-their-time_p2.html]this article[/url] which helps you to understand why it does not 100% matter that they were "rejected" multiple times.[/QUOTE] wrong this was research not special care because they were interested in funding. they went to the ethics board and the board was like "fuck no" they did it anyways. there's no reason why anyone should be supporting them
[QUOTE=proch;41967314]I'd consider suicide.[/QUOTE] I'd make a witty remark about your avatar but it made me kind of depressed so I think I'll refrain.
[QUOTE=Joey90;41967255]If you had terminal brain cancer you'd probably consider anything...[/QUOTE] I don't think I'd put poop in my brain though
They watched too much House M.D.
[QUOTE=Jeep-Eep;41967769]In some ways it's worse. They preyed upon desperate people with with untested schemes. Just read the bit which I posted twice.[/QUOTE] I would have done it. Why not? Chances are it won't lead anywhere, but it's better than dying and not having benefitted science in any way. Even if they didn't figure out how to do something, they figured out how not to do it.
No man deserves to die from poo germs.
what exactly happened to the patients? did they die or are they dying or were they saved or what
[QUOTE=Lurklet;41972174]what exactly happened to the patients? did they die or are they dying or were they saved or what[/QUOTE] They died. One of sepsis from the bacteria - which was pretty damn predictable.
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