French satirical paper Charlie Hebdo attacked in Paris due to Mohammed Cartoon
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[QUOTE=Jsm;33095452]Got any proper source on that? Or are you going to retract that? That is quite a serious thing to throw around.
A large portion of a religion of 1.5bn people is going to be a very very large number.[/QUOTE]
The Taliban has been summed up to almost 100 thousand people and that's not including the people who support them as well as other terrorist organizations.
I think I might have over-exaggerated it a bit in my above post, what I meant to say is that it's larger than most people think. Most people dismiss it as something small and a 'vast minority', when it's not.
[editline]2nd November 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Zeke129;33095510]How dare all Muslims do this? All Muslims should be charged with this attack! All Muslims are so violent. We need to deport all Muslims from everywhere.
[editline]2nd November 2011[/editline]
I'm going to point at Christian Africa now
Compare and contrast to Muslim Africa, where people are revolting and turning their countries around[/QUOTE]
Yes because the revolts were started because of their religion.
You know that the Christian African countries are worried about this too, right?
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;33095909]
Yes because the revolts were started because of their religion.
You know that the Christian African countries are worried about this too, right?[/QUOTE]
Um, I'm siding with the Muslim regions of Africa and saying that they're on track to being much better countries than most of the ones in the Christian regions of Africa.
I wasn't agreeing with the person I was quoting, I was arguing with his claim that Islamic countries have the worst human rights abuses.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;33095940]Um, I'm siding with the Muslim regions of Africa and saying that they're on track to being much better countries than most of the ones in the Christian regions of Africa.
I wasn't agreeing with the person I was quoting, I was arguing with his claim that Islamic countries have the worst human rights abuses.[/QUOTE]
Ah, I was a tad conflicted with your post there.
You're right though, the Muslim countries, albeit bad, are nothing compared to the Christian ones. *in Africa
Okay, I can understand the whole 'against the religion to create even an image of an important person' thing and all. But firebombing and death threats is the solution? I don't care if it's blasphemy or not, violence is violence and while I won't go 'lol all muslims are bastards', it's kind of going against their beliefs in the first place and really not tolerable. That's like how there have been cases of those into Christian religion murdering people and then claiming God told them to kill in his name.
Do things like Comedy Central and such really fear someone would carry out on a death threat or something?
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;33091620]-[citation needed]-[/QUOTE]
No i don't this isn't Mass Debate :dance: I was just being a huge jerk thinking about all the crazy countries with sharia law and people protesting for it in western countries.
I don't see Christians doing that.
Now i just need to wait for someone to destroy me? :suicide:
[QUOTE=Xain777;33094610]Dear everyone defending Islam,
Consider how many Islamic theocracies have huge human rights issues compared to any other religion's theocracies.[/QUOTE]
consider they're all in the same hellhole of a region.
[editline]2nd November 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Sexy Eskimo;33097540]No i don't this isn't Mass Debate :dance: I was just being a huge jerk thinking about all the crazy countries with sharia law and people protesting for it in western countries.
I don't see Christians doing that.
Now i just need to wait for someone to destroy me? :suicide:[/QUOTE]
that's because you're not looking for it.
try looking up Uganda with its proposed bill to give the death penalty to homosexuals. btw its a christian country.
[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyGunz;33098038]consider they're all in the same hellhole of a region.[/quote]
So the Vatican and Tibet are in the middle east?
[sp]Those are the only theocracies of a religion other than Islam according to Wikipedia.[/sp]
Uganda is mostly christian but they dont have a official religion.
If you really want to break the underlying argument that monotheists have problems, find me a country with a majority population of atheists or polytheists with human rights problems.
[QUOTE=Xain777;33098710]So the Vatican and Tibet are in the middle east?
[sp]Those are the only theocracies of a religion other than Islam according to Wikipedia.[/sp]
Uganda is mostly christian but they dont have a official religion.
If you really want to break the underlying argument that monotheists have problems, find me a country with a majority population of atheists or polytheists with human rights problems.[/QUOTE]
no, Islamic theocracies have human rights issues because they're third world countries run by dictators in the middle east, not because they're Islamic.
[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyGunz;33098731]no, Islamic theocracies have human rights issues because they're third world countries run by dictators in the middle east, not because they're Islamic.[/QUOTE]
Do you really think you can divorce the two when, in Iran at least, they put those dictators into power? Esp since they put them into power to make a theocracy?
[QUOTE=Thyroxin;33088021]We can't make fun of you, But you can make fun of us? I need the why image.[/QUOTE]
"We can make fun of you, but you can't make fun of us"
is exactly the same logic as
"We can call you a faggot, but you can't call us a bigot"
"We can call you a Mexican jumping bean, but you can't call us ignorant"
Its ignorant and makes utterly no sense at all.
And I understand being offended, people are well within their right to get angry, it is very insulting, but being offended to the point of going insane with hate is bullshit, and offensive in itself, not only that, but come on, your a grown man, get over it.
Oh god all the "lol christians wouldn't take that so seriously" jokes.
Fuck it. In France there are both Christians and Muslim extremists around and they are both very stupid, butthurt and heinous. One decided to sue a satirical magazine for a satirical drawing, which they have no right to do whatsoever by the way (nothing outlaw in making fun of religion), while the other attacked actors during a play featuring the christ and destroyed several works of art displayed in a museum featuring once again Jesus in an unconventional, sometimes parodying way. Christian extremists around 2009 burned a few mosques to the ground with Molotov cocktails as well.
Also, Charlie Hebdo had quite a lot of caricatures like that one, some of which actually making a very good point that only got validated by people's shitty reactions.
[img]http://www.morbleu.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/charlie-hebdo-mahomet.jpg[/img]
[B]"Mahomet overwhelmed by fundamentalists"[/B]
[I]"It's hard to be loved by dumbasses..."[/I]
But really, don't take the "if it was them instead no one would be pissed off" shortcut because it's false. Christians do it as well and a lot of times are actually more violent than Muslims. Sure they aren't bombing shit, but they're still assaulting people who didn't ask for anything and do their own censor by destroying art in Museums that don't fit their own religious standards.
[QUOTE=Xain777;33098754]Do you really think you can divorce the two when, in Iran at least, they put those dictators into power? Esp since they put them into power to make a theocracy?[/QUOTE]
It's used as a political tool to keep the population oppressed, do you really think the people of Iran fairly put their leaders in power?
Someone should make a FONV NPC of the Prophet Mohammed and post it to the New Vegas Nexus forums.
Would love to see that wretched hive of scum and villainy burn. :v:
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;33099126]Oh god all the "lol christians wouldn't take that so seriously" jokes.
Fuck it. In France there are both Christians and Muslim extremists around and they are both very stupid, butthurt and heinous. One decided to sue a satirical magazine for a satirical drawing, which they have no right to do whatsoever by the way (nothing outlaw in making fun of religion), while the other attacked actors during a play featuring the christ and destroyed several works of art displayed in a museum featuring once again Jesus in an unconventional, sometimes parodying way. Christian extremists around 2009 burned a few mosques to the ground with Molotov cocktails as well.[/QUOTE]
I never thought I'd see the day where Ganerumo would actually defend Muslims against baseless attacks
[QUOTE=Kljunas;33089843]Some Christian people were complaining about piss christ and wanted it to be removed. Nothing was done so they destroyed it (since it is a photography, it is just symbolical).
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actually yeah the photograph was destroyed by a vandal just a few months ago
[editline]3rd November 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Sexy Eskimo;33097540]No i don't this isn't Mass Debate :dance: I was just being a huge jerk thinking about all the crazy countries with sharia law and people protesting for it in western countries.
I don't see Christians doing that.
Now i just need to wait for someone to destroy me? :suicide:[/QUOTE]
you have a child's worldview and you take pride in that. yer sort of owning yourself
[QUOTE=Zeke129;33102092]I never thought I'd see the day where Ganerumo would actually defend Muslims against baseless attacks[/QUOTE]
Hum okay I don't even know who you are but cool I guess
[QUOTE=Orkel;33088816]I knew it would end like this. Muslims love to overreact.[/QUOTE]
As a Muslim myself, I do find that offensive but you don't see me go out and set churches on fire just because someone drew the caricature of Prophet Muhammad. I use to be angry but when I think of it, it's not worth it . Go ahead and make fun of my religion , make fun of Islam.
I'll just sit down and let you have fun. Of course being in Singapore, if you make fun of any religion, YOU go to jail. This is why us Singaporeans can live together in peace and harmony unlike the French.
Heck, even the Muslim clerics of France condemn those muslims who go and attack the guy
[QUOTE=BCell;33104345]if you make fun of any religion, YOU go to jail. This is why us Singaporeans can live together in peace and harmony unlike the French. [/QUOTE]
"we can live in peace and harmony because there's no freedom of speech suck it french people!!"
that's a terrible thing to say
[editline]3rd November 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;33094181]
This is a goddamn misconception, a large portion of them support the Taliban and other terrorist organizations. Why do you think they've almost been able to take control of entire countries?
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that's just bullshit, the taliban is a military group that violently took control of parts of afghanistan. you're absolutely wrong.
[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyGunz;33091044]I see more news on the criminal nature of blacks more than any single race in my entire news article reading life.[/QUOTE]
this is not /b/
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