Meet the NEETS: They're young and able, but completely unwilling to look for work - Polidicks

This thread has hit home with alot of the responses for me; been working at my job for upwards of 3 years now and it's the best job I've ever had in all honesty, but I just know it's not what I want to do in life. Barely moved into my first apartment for a few months and I'm getting used to having to live paycheck to paycheck before I can start saving again. It's just hard to imagine doing it for another few years even though this job gives me what I need to live. I've definitely lost the ability to appreciate more of my hobbies as much but I'm getting used to that too. It sucks knowing that a lottery ticket could change my life in a second - or being able to think of the perfect idea to capitalize on. It makes me think about the fundamentals of the society we've created for ourselves as a whole with money in the spotlight. I kind of wish I could draw porn for that reason, almost on the brink of learning to draw it. I feel like I'll have to get a second job at this point.

[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;51059781]So for me I was, last year, being paid 17-19k. In my area I was saving nothing because of cost of living. My employer was still seeking useless (below min wage) interns or looking to outsource work abroad. They're very good to the employees but seeking to optimise output while minimising costs. I'm being paid more now, still less than the UK average and approx half the average for those in my profession, but I would still be saving next to nothing had I not moved back with my dad. I'm not asking for anything crazy just enough to be able to support myself while saving for the future. Call me old fashioned but I think a 25 year old should be able to do that. T Perhaps I'm a chump for settling with a fun job that pays badly but I'm certainly not asking for a wage too high for local employers. If what I'm asking for is too unreasonable then how is anyone expected to make good money. Truth is cost of living elsewhere is lower and its cheaper to hire foreign labour.[/QUOTE] Honestly sounds like you just got a bad(or greedy) employer.

All I hear while looking through this thread is Pink Floyd's "Time" "Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day Fritter and waste the hours in an off-hand way..." [video=youtube;NJQnzmH6jgc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJQnzmH6jgc[/video]

I work a 36 hour week and my job isn't the best but I'd like to move on to something better but I just don't think I'm going to find better right now. Besides by the time I'm done working every day my willpower to do anything is entirely drained. Customer service sucks balls.

If i didn't have to work for a living I would be so much better at the thing i love to do, which is making music. I wouldn't be watching TV and playing games all day. That's such an empty existence.

[QUOTE=proboardslol;51059925]Does work make you feel fulfilled[/QUOTE] Working makes me feel more fulfilled than sitting on my arse all day. At least you get to go out and meet new people and make money while you're at it. And (breaking news) you can use that money to fund your hobbies and travels outside of work!!!!!!! wow thats crazy right? You cant freeride everything in your life, you actually have to work for stuff

Was a neet aswell. Then a few weeks ago got a job at Bosch. I work my ass off, but it pays ok. Couldn't find a stable job, got depressed and started giving up. I got this by luck tbh. I tried a few other places and didnt get a single answer, and those were the kind of jobs that you get easily...

[QUOTE=DepDirkson;51060027]I work a 36 hour week and my job isn't the best but I'd like to move on to something better but I just don't think I'm going to find better right now. Besides by the time I'm done working every day my willpower to do anything is entirely drained. Customer service sucks balls.[/QUOTE] THIS, I never get anything productive done after work just because it's like my body has been destroyed.

[QUOTE=gtanoofa;51060118]This is really true. I was working as a part time waiter and would have to carry weights around and would feel my spine hurt a lot after 4,5 hours of work. Doesn't help when i have scoliosis and i looked like an alien at times because my spine got all fucked up from lifting stuff. And all that for a shit pay with very few tips.[/QUOTE] If I was a conspiracy nut I'd say that the long work hours are made to keep the workers down, make them tired, make them go home and watch tv, sleep until they have to wake up and do it all over again. For 4 years I would come home from work and force myself to do 6 hours of music production. I've concluded that in order to survive you must expend more energy than you have. Exercise helps you stay energetic enough to do this, but also cuts into precious time you could be using to do your thing. I have since taken on more responsibilities so i dont get those 6 hours a night anymore. I'm lucky if i get two. I actually take sick days to work on my music. It's that important to me.

It all depends on the job you do, honestly. I work way over 40 hours a week, and I love almost every second of my job. There are really shitty points that happen, but every job has that. I honestly couldn't sit home all day, I'd go insane.

i wonder if being a hardcore introvert is why being a NEET is so appealing to me, i feel sorry for the extroverts who go insane from boredom and monotony if left on their own

[QUOTE=idiot;51060194]i wonder if being a hardcore introvert is why being a NEET is so appealing to me, i feel sorry for the extroverts who go insane from boredom and monotony if left on their own[/QUOTE] NEET != sat at home doing nothing

[QUOTE=DiBBs27;51060141]If I was a conspiracy nut I'd say that the long work hours are made to keep the workers down, make them tired, make them go home and watch tv, sleep until they have to wake up and do it all over again. [/QUOTE] A job should always emphasize intensity over quantity, it is considerably more exciting and healthy to have a job that makes you feel like your ass is on fire for 4 hours than one which stretches things out for 8 hours for no good reason. It's pretty difficult not to believe in conspiracy theories about this to be honest, it's almost as if many jobs are deliberately designed to keep you trapped there unless you actively develop a system to give yourself herculean amounts of energy... which thankfully can be done (without it being detrimental), however it does require regularly dedicating attention to self improvement.

[QUOTE=genkaz92;51060203]A job should always emphasize intensity over quantity, it is considerably more exciting and healthy to have a job that makes you feel like your ass is on fire for 4 hours than one which stretches things out for 8 hours for no good reason. It's pretty difficult not to believe in conspiracy theories about this to be honest, it's almost as if many jobs are deliberately designed to keep you trapped there unless you actively develop a system to give yourself herculean amounts of energy... which thankfully can be done (without it being detrimental), however it does require regularly dedicating attention to self improvement.[/QUOTE] You've pretty much hit the nail on the head. For example, My work is IT related. I have 8 hour work days. While this job is not physically exhausting it is indeed mentally and emotionally exhausting. This makes it so much more difficult to go home and do something that relies on your pool of mental and emotional energy to complete the task. At least physical exercise can alleviate the symptoms of physical fatigue, so that's one less thing to worry about. And yea, you're right, it is pretty hard to not think it's a conspiracy. Most of the nation goes home to watch cnn and become indoctrinated by their biased bullshit so they can come back to work the next day and talk about it at break time with their equally trapped colleagues.

Sounds like a bunch of bums bitching about being bums.

[QUOTE=Bleach Qeef;51060267]Sounds like a bunch of bums bitching about being bums.[/QUOTE] Sounds like someone that didn't read the article

[QUOTE=genkaz92;51060203]A job should always emphasize intensity over quantity, it is considerably more exciting and healthy to have a job that makes you feel like your ass is on fire for 4 hours than one which stretches things out for 8 hours for no good reason. It's pretty difficult not to believe in conspiracy theories about this to be honest, it's almost as if many jobs are deliberately designed to keep you trapped there unless you actively develop a system to give yourself herculean amounts of energy... which thankfully can be done (without it being detrimental), however it does require regularly dedicating attention to self improvement.[/QUOTE] Yup, best hourly job I had was stocking shelves overnight at a department store. Had something to do from start to finish and hours flew like minutes. Got home and felt refreshed and not burned out, like paid exercise. Now I drive a truck and I love it. It's like getting paid to be a hermit, and driving is a huge stress reliever for me so I'm calm and relaxed most of my working day. I even brought my pc in the berth so I can play games or program during downtime like loading or breaktime. Though when this job sucks, it sucks hard. Some of the strongest exhaustion I've ever felt has come from this job and it's purely mental.

I wouldn't mind my job at McDonald's if I didn't have to work night shifts. After about 6pm there's only 2 of us in the back, which really sucks because we still get hit with a million orders and not enough people to handle them. I guess it feels nice to finally have a job, but man I wish my schedule was more flexible so I didn't have to work night.

[QUOTE=simzboy;51060397]I wouldn't mind my job at McDonald's if I didn't have to work night shifts. After about 6pm there's only 2 of us in the back, which really sucks because we still get hit with a million orders and not enough people to handle it. I guess it feels nice to finally have a job, but man I wish my schedule was more flexible so I didn't have to work night.[/QUOTE] A friend of mine works nights, us going out on saturday's is p much the only social life he has, outside of a couple of colleges he has. Not a life a 23 year old should have to endure. Not even great pay.

[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;51060410]A friend of mine works nights, us going out on saturday's is p much the only social life he has, outside of a couple of colleges he has. Not a life a 23 year old should have to endure. Not even great pay.[/QUOTE] The problem is that this is the story pretty much across the board. Only kids born into rich families don't have to experience the massive hit your social life takes when you enter the workforce.

[QUOTE=ironman17;51059907]Mate, it sounds like this friend of yours needs an intervention, something to bring a spark back to his life. Because that kind of "barely existing" thing is raising alarm bells in my head.[/QUOTE] I try, all the time, I'm worried another friend is going down the same path too. But all my other friends aren't emotionally intelligent enough to deal with it, so it's just me, and I have my own problems and am going to be moving halfway across the country in a week to go to uni.

[QUOTE=DiBBs27;51060424]The problem is that this is the story pretty much across the board. Only kids born into rich families don't have to experience the massive hit your social life takes when you enter the workforce.[/QUOTE] As if there's tons of time to hang out with your friends while studying at a university. A bit more of it than what you get when you get a job, but not considerably much. Working and studying are not that different to be honest.

[QUOTE=Complifusedv2;51059921]Its really sad how many people think staying at home with no job playing video games is the dream lmao, in fact just being a NEET for that matter[/QUOTE] I disagree, that's kinda my dream, though being a YouTuber, so playing video games and entertaining people. I want to one day make that a reality by having people actually watch my channel and doing all that as a living rather than something I frantically do between all the other things in my life. That's me as an extrovert though, if a less socially inclined person sees work as a means to an end, and the end is chilling out by themselves doing what they enjoy doing then I have no problem with that whatsoever.

I don't know about really wanting to be a NEET for an extended period of time. It's rad as heck for the first month or two but after that your life just becomes incredibly meaningless. Spending hours alone because everyone else are at work or school, not having anything to wake up to anymore, neglecting routines etc becomes way too easy since you no longer have something to go to and the list just gets bigger the longer you go without work. Even if you do fill your time with something you just end up feeling like a big loser and a leech off of the welfare system while everyone else around you actually does useful shit, like working or getting educated. It's crazy uncomfortable when people ask what you do. "Oh I wake up, eat, do random shit and go to sleep again". It's the lifestyle for the person who wants to end up as depressed as possible in the shortest amount of time. There is far from enough stimulation and when there is no structure to follow it becomes too easy to neglect a lot of basic things. Not using your brain enough just makes it rot away.

[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;51060410]A friend of mine works nights, us going out on saturday's is p much the only social life he has, outside of a couple of colleges he has. Not a life a 23 year old should have to endure. Not even great pay.[/QUOTE]Yeah, it sucks. I plan on holding it for at least a year before I look for something new. I think that's a reasonable time frame.

I've never understood why you would want to be a NEET outside of a month. Which is what I do after I lose a job or just have to leave due to mental health/family issues. After that month though it's back on the job looking train and doing the self-study plus medical stuff.

They might be enjoying it now whilst they're still pretty much kids with no responsibilities, but jokes on them when they're much older and can't find any jobs that pay you worth a shit. They might think they're living it up now chilling in McDonalds and stuff, but sooner or later they're gonna realise how shit their life is.

I'm glad these people exist. Less competition for me. I don't care if the economy sucks or it's hard to find a job. It's not impossible to do, and it's in fact very easy to get a full time job if you're willing to take less money. Why don't you take some responsibility, roll with the punches, and even *gasp* blame yourself for some of the hardships in your life. Just saying "it's hard these days" will do nothing for you.

[QUOTE=Pantz Master;51060641]I'm glad these people exist. Less competition for me. I don't care if the economy sucks or it's hard to find a job. It's not impossible to do, and it's in fact very easy to get a full time job if you're willing to take less money. Why don't you take some responsibility, roll with the punches, and even *gasp* blame yourself for some of the hardships in your life. Just saying "it's hard these days" will do nothing for you.[/QUOTE] appropriate avatar

[QUOTE=Pantz Master;51060641]I'm glad these people exist. Less competition for me. I don't care if the economy sucks or it's hard to find a job. It's not impossible to do, [b]and it's in fact very easy to get a full time job if you're willing to take less money[/b]. Why don't you take some responsibility, roll with the punches, and even *gasp* blame yourself for some of the hardships in your life. Just saying "it's hard these days" will do nothing for you.[/QUOTE] Not really, I've applied to every minimum wage job since graduating university almost 5 months ago along with a bunch of other bullshit in nearby cities and I only just got an interview set up for today.