[QUOTE=Erasus;46618947]with the majority religion within england, a Christian nation - being Muslim [/QUOTE]
Stats show most people here are becoming non-religious so there's that.
I thought it would be John or something
[QUOTE=AK'z;46619003]Oh stop being a bozo, how about take a walk into a hospital and see that most of the doctors and nurses are foreigners.
The fact of the matter is, things function.. no how uncomfortable you are, largely because of foreigners.[/QUOTE]
Then tighten immigration the things we want? Why should we allow people who are unskilled to be in our country? If they're unskilled when they're coming in they're not going to be skilled once they're here.
[QUOTE=Erasus;46619001]And if you wish to throw statistics, go look at londons statistics for foreigners, the influx of foreigners over there is a good representative of what could happen nationwide.[/QUOTE]
Of course foreigners are going to flock to London, it's the capital, ergo the easiest to get working. You really don't see a similar or even higher foreigner density in any other part of the country for just this reason.
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;46618922]Because it's them dirty foreigners here to steal our jobs and benefits at the same time by giving kids Sharia names, and probably causing cancer, among other idiocies that the Daily Mail actually believes.[/QUOTE]
Let's be honest; the recent anti-immigration sentiment is not based on any kind of economic or job related concerns, it's based on the fear many (soon to be most) Caucasians have of one day being a minority in their own country. That's not to say most white people are racist, but there is a crucial difference between saying "I'm happy to give you equal rights" and "I'm prepared to live in a society where there's more of your people than mine."
[URL="http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4594345,00.html"]Same in Israel[/URL], by the way.
[QUOTE=Erasus;46619014]Then tighten immigration the things we want? Why should we allow people who are unskilled to be in our country? If they're unskilled when they're coming in they're not going to be skilled once they're here.[/QUOTE]
your definition of "skilled" has got to be concrete before you ban all immigration. The fact that a large majority of less regarded jobs, e.g. cleaning is being done by majority foreigners.
[url=http://www.babycentre.co.uk/a25011625/top-baby-boy-names-2014]Here's the full list if anyone's interested.[/url] I couldn't help but notice that about 95 of these names are [i]very[/i] English.
[QUOTE=WhollyRufus;46619023]Let's be honest; the recent anti-immigration sentiment is not based on any kind of economic or job related concerns, it's based on the fear many (soon to be most) Caucasians have of one day being a minority in their own country. That's not to say most white people are racist, but there is a crucial difference between saying "I'm happy to give you equal rights" and "I'm prepared to live in a society where there's more of your people than mine."[/QUOTE]
This is basically what I was trying to get at - I don't want to live in a country where the people who lived there for a long fucking time are now a minority. None of you would like it, so I don't see why we should have to put up with it and be shouted down when we complain. That's exactly why these immigration laws are coming in, that's why UKIP is becoming popular (I don't rate UKIP, by the way), that's why David Cameron has brought in these anti-immigration rules, otherwise we're going to be a minority and no Briton regardless of how liberal towards immigrants want that.
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;46618867]If names Muhammed and Muhammad are among the top it's still equally concerning.[/QUOTE]
how is it concerning? in the uk people hate having the same name as someone else, in muslim culture it's very popular to have the name muhammad so even if muslims are a small minority (i know they're not but even if they were) it is easily possible to have muhammad as the most popular name in the overall population
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;46619038][url=http://www.babycentre.co.uk/a25011625/top-baby-boy-names-2014]Here's the full list if anyone's interested.[/url] I couldn't help but notice that about 95 of these names are [i]very[/i] English.[/QUOTE]
I don't know what time period these rankings are from, maybe 2013? But for Muhammad to jump 27 spots has got to say something - i'm not on about being overloaded now but I sure as hell don't want to bring up my child being a minority in their own fucking country.
[QUOTE=Erasus;46619041]This is basically what I was trying to get at - I don't want to live in a country where the people who lived there for a long fucking time are now a minority. None of you would like it, so I don't see why we should have to put up with it and be shouted down when we complain. That's exactly why these immigration laws are coming in, that's why UKIP is becoming popular (I don't rate UKIP, by the way), that's why David Cameron has brought in these anti-immigration rules, otherwise we're going to be a minority and no Briton regardless of how liberal towards immigrants want that.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure the saxons felt the same way when the normans came. Or the angles felt when the romans came. Now they're as briton as anything else you say.
wanting your country to be predominantly 1 ethnicity is a well trodden road to bad places. The best way to do it is to assimilate people and let them blend into and contribute to your culture. IF you take a curry to india they would hate it, we have made it british. Most muslims are moderates, in some cases more moderate than loony christians and provided the country stays secular there is absolutely no issue.
Its people obsessed with ethnic dominance and segregation who create the divides in our society to begin with.
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[QUOTE=Erasus;46619046]I don't know what time period these rankings are from, maybe 2013? But for Muhammad to jump 27 spots has got to say something - i'm not on about being overloaded now but I sure as hell don't want to bring up my child being a minority in their own fucking country.[/QUOTE]
4.4% muslim. You'll have to wait a long time till you are a "minority"
Unless you mean as a member of the "xenophobic fuck" minority, then you hopefully won't have to wait long.
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;46619055]I'm sure the saxons felt the same way when the normans came. Or the angles felt when the romans came. Now they're as briton as anything else you say.
wanting your country to be predominantly 1 ethnicity is a well trodden road to bad places. The best way to do it is to assimilate people and let them blend into and contribute to your culture. IF you take a curry to india they would hate it, we have made it british. Most muslims are moderates, in some cases more moderate than loony christians and provided the country stays secular there is absolutely no issue.
Its people obsessed with ethnic dominance and segregation who create the divides in our society to begin with.[/QUOTE]
Are you actually trying to say that people cant cope with others of the same ethnicity? Like seriously, if anything being 1 ethnicity will make your country prosper. I mean, look at countries like Russia, that are mostly just one ethnicity, where everyone is peaceful, and then look at a country like the UK where there are horrible things happening and guess what, they're 'accepting' of other ethnic groups
[QUOTE=Erasus;46619041]This is basically what I was trying to get at - I don't want to live in a country where the people who lived there for a long fucking time are now a minority. None of you would like it, so I don't see why we should have to put up with it and be shouted down when we complain. That's exactly why these immigration laws are coming in, that's why UKIP is becoming popular (I don't rate UKIP, by the way), that's why David Cameron has brought in these anti-immigration rules, otherwise we're going to be a minority and no Briton regardless of how liberal towards immigrants want that.[/QUOTE]
I predict a time fast-approaching when no political party openly identifying as "pro-immigration" will ever be able to get a majority of the white vote in most European countries.
[QUOTE=Erasus;46619041]I don't want to live in a country where the people who lived there for a long fucking time are now a minority.[/QUOTE]
Are you living in cloud cuckoo land, English people are still the majority...
Maybe try exploring the country before flipping out about immigration.
Do you appreciate the work foreigners do or do you just groan every time you meet a polish person?
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;46619055]I'm sure the saxons felt the same way when the normans came. Or the angles felt when the romans came. Now they're as briton as anything else you say.
wanting your country to be predominantly 1 ethnicity is a well trodden road to bad places. The best way to do it is to assimilate people and let them blend into and contribute to your culture. IF you take a curry to india they would hate it, we have made it british. Most muslims are moderates, in some cases more moderate than loony christians and provided the country stays secular there is absolutely no issue.
Its people obsessed with ethnic dominance and segregation who create the divides in our society to begin with.
[editline]2nd December 2014[/editline]
4.4% muslim. You'll have to wait a long time till you are a "minority"
Unless you mean as a member of the "xenophobic fuck" minority, then you hopefully won't have to wait long.[/QUOTE]
Haha, that's pretty hilarious, why don't you check all growth stats of [B]immigrants[/B] in the UK from previous years? I'll assume you're a member of "the i can't read" minority.
[QUOTE=MetricLuvsU;46619065]Are you actually trying to say that people cant cope with others of the same ethnicity? Like seriously, if anything being 1 ethnicity will make your country prosper. I mean, look at countries like Russia, that are mostly just one ethnicity, where everyone is peaceful, and then look at a country like the UK where there are horrible things happening and guess what, they're 'accepting' of other ethnic groups[/QUOTE]
Russia? 1 ethnicity?
Are you serious?
[QUOTE=MetricLuvsU;46619065]Are you actually trying to say that people cant cope with others of the same ethnicity? Like seriously, if anything being 1 ethnicity will make your country prosper. I mean, look at countries like Russia, that are mostly just one ethnicity, where everyone is peaceful, and then look at a country like the UK where there are horrible things happening and guess what, they're 'accepting' of other ethnic groups[/QUOTE]
I'm not saying I can't cope - I'm saying I'd rather still be the majority of my own country in 15-20 years time.
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;46619074]Russia? 1 ethnicity?
Are you serious?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, they're called 'slavs'
[QUOTE=Erasus;46619072]Haha, that's pretty hilarious, why don't you check all growth stats of [B]immigrants[/B] in the UK from previous years? I'll assume you're a member of "the i can't read" minority.[/QUOTE]
what's your deal with becoming a minority why is that so hard to deal with even though it is comical that you think that is even a possibility in the near future
[QUOTE=AK'z;46619069]Are you living in cloud cuckoo land, English people are still the majority...
Maybe try exploring the country before flipping out about immigration.
Do you appreciate the work foreigners do or do you just groan every time you meet a polish person?[/QUOTE]
I appreciate the work but as I say in the economy's current situation we don't need any more immigrants coming in unless they're fit for a job role we actually need.
[QUOTE=Erasus;46619077]I'm not saying I can't cope - I'm saying I'd rather still be the majority of my own country in 15-20 years time.[/QUOTE]
yeah but
why
[editline]2nd December 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Erasus;46619084]I appreciate the work but as I say in the economy's current situation we don't need any more immigrants coming in unless they're fit for a job role we actually need.[/QUOTE]
they are though they're doing all the dirty shit you don't want to do
[QUOTE=Erasus;46619077]I'm not saying I can't cope - I'm saying I'd rather still be the majority of my own country in 15-20 years time.[/QUOTE]
Are you really this concerned about being the 'majority', like do you honestly think that other ethnic groups are lesser or something? Why else would you want yours to be the biggest?
[QUOTE=Erasus;46619046]I don't know what time period these rankings are from, maybe 2013? But for Muhammad to jump 27 spots has got to say something - i'm not on about being overloaded now but I sure as hell don't want to bring up my child being a minority in their own fucking country.[/QUOTE]
It says right there that it's from this year, and that's not even the biggest jump on the list, Teddy is up 30 places, a good chunk of the last thirty are first timers in the top 100.
And why not worry about your children being brought up in a country where whether their skin color is the average shade or not doesn't actually matter? Maybe it's just my upbringing (American of Yugoslav descent), but the idea of racial segregation or dominance of any kind always struck me as a bad idea.
[QUOTE=MetricLuvsU;46619079]Yeah, they're called 'slavs'[/QUOTE]
And Tatars? They are Turkic.
[QUOTE=Erasus;46619046]I don't know what time period these rankings are from, maybe 2013? But for Muhammad to jump 27 spots has got to say something[/QUOTE]
It's still just statistics demonstrating the popularity of a name, nothing more. The arguments that its gonna be very common for Muslims to name their boy Muhammad and everyone else to name their boy any male name still apply to these results.
[QUOTE=Firewarrior;46619092]And Tatars? They are Turkic.[/QUOTE]
Last time I checked, Turks were in [I]Turkey[/I], not Russia
A person called Muhammad, when they have a child, are very likely gonna call them Muhammad.
[QUOTE=Erasus;46619084]I appreciate the work but as I say in the economy's current situation we don't need any more immigrants coming in unless they're fit for a job role we actually need.[/QUOTE]
you just said you don't want to bring a child up in a country with foreigners.
Do you actually care about the way things function or do you just hate all foreigners?
[QUOTE=Erasus;46619072]Haha, that's pretty hilarious, why don't you check all growth stats of [B]immigrants[/B] in the UK from previous years? I'll assume you're a member of "the i can't read" minority.[/QUOTE]
Why don't you just outright shout "Kill all sandniggers!!!" instead of hiding behind your dumb pretense?
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