[QUOTE=MetricLuvsU;46619159]Except when they discriminate its not a hate crime, its called self-preservation[/QUOTE]
Are you of serbian decent by any chance?
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;46619158]There are counter arguments for it.
State each specific arguement explicitly and I/we will provide counter arguments.
1 rule though. None of that "my race/ethnicity is superior" bull[/QUOTE]
How about 'because if a group is committing hate crimes against the natives, people should keep from allowing more of that group into the country'
[QUOTE=MetricLuvsU;46619159]Except when they discriminate its not a hate crime, its called self-preservation[/QUOTE]
alright, pretty sure he's a troll account at this point
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;46619164]Are you of serbian decent by any chance?[/QUOTE]
No, and I dont see what that has to do with anything.
[QUOTE=MetricLuvsU;46619167]How about 'because if a group is committing hate crimes against the natives, people should keep from allowing more of that group into the country'[/QUOTE]
[img]http://facepunch.com/fp/flags/us.png[/img]
i like how you even used natives in your post
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;46619171]alright, pretty sure he's a troll account at this point[/QUOTE]
Im sorry? If people are invading your country and attacking your people/culture, is it not reasonable to try to stop them?
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[QUOTE=WhollyRufus;46619145]How would the country be broken?[/QUOTE]
Inbreeding, population stagnation, it could be argued that such a degree of ethnic isolation would require a similar amount of trading and travel isolation which would be an economic disaster.
[QUOTE=codenamecueball;46619151]the main problem people have with immigration is people whinging that "dey tuk are jobs" which is bullshit because if you don't want to be at the bottom end of the rung as a cleaning services assistant, or at the other end you don't want to work hard enough to be a doctor that's fine. don't whine that someone else is going to take that job from you because the main problem i find in the uk is english peoples entitlement. how they believe we had the empire, and that we're a glorious nation that needs "defended" from these people coming and rebuilding the economy that the rich white people they worship left in fucking tatters. obviously not the entire country but these nationalist boneheads are the problem, not a couple of kids named mohammed.[/QUOTE]
I'll refer you to my earlier post:
[QUOTE]Let's be honest; the recent anti-immigration sentiment is not based on any kind of economic or job related concerns, it's based on the fear many (soon to be most) Caucasians have of one day being a minority in their own country. That's not to say most white people are racist, but there is a crucial difference between saying "I'm happy to give you equal rights" and "I'm prepared to live in a society where there's more of your people than mine."[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=codenamecueball;46619163]that's racist m8
you're saying a white english person is more important that anyone of any other colour or creed[/QUOTE]
nope, i mean people who were born in england - not people coming over.
It's sad how the vocal minority of immigrants have skewed the perceptions of all immigrants in the UK, as seen in this thread.
[QUOTE=MetricLuvsU;46619159]Except when they discriminate its not a hate crime, its called self-preservation[/QUOTE]
Legit the funniest thing I've read in a while
[QUOTE=MetricLuvsU;46619167]How about 'because if a group is committing hate crimes against the natives, people should keep from allowing more of that group into the country'[/QUOTE]
How do you define group?
If it is ethnically then by banning a group for the actions of a few individuals (very small number) you are implying that it is their ethnicity which causes then to do the crimes (rather than psychosis, indoctrination, terrorism) thereby implying your ethnicity is better than theirs because yours does not cause such things. Thus you broke our 1 rule of "not resorting to ethnic supremacy"
If if it not ethnicity then how do you define group? And for your future arguments please be more specific.
[editline]2nd December 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=MetricLuvsU;46619178]Im sorry? If people are invading your country and attacking your people/culture, is it not reasonable to try to stop them?[/QUOTE]
They're not invading. Most immigrants come for a better life. That better life in the vast overwhelming number of cases involves then contributing in a positive manner.
[QUOTE=MetricLuvsU;46619159]Except when they discriminate its not a hate crime, its called self-preservation[/QUOTE]
hahahaha are you for real right now
[QUOTE=Kondor;46619173][img]http://facepunch.com/fp/flags/us.png[/img]
i like how you even used natives in your post[/QUOTE]
I assume you're referring to the whole 'European vs Indian' thing, in which the same still holds true. If they could've stopped Europeans from invading their land, there would've been nothing wrong with doing so.
[QUOTE=WhollyRufus;46619145]How would the country be broken?[/QUOTE]
I work in a hospital where 90% of doctors/surgeons/nurses are foreigners. Remove all foreigners, you may as well shut down the NHS.
After that you can easily picture what would happen to businesses, banking, schools and construction companies.
[QUOTE=MetricLuvsU;46619178]Im sorry? If people are invading your country and attacking your people/culture, is it not reasonable to try to stop them?[/QUOTE]
Your world views are about as outdated as the operating system you are using.
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;46619195]How do you define group?
If it is ethnically then by banning a group for the actions of a few individuals (very small number) you are implying that it is their ethnicity which causes then to do the crimes (rather than psychosis, indoctrination, terrorism) thereby implying your ethnicity is better than theirs because yours does not cause such things. Thus you broke our 1 rule of "not resorting to ethnic supremacy"
If if it not ethnicity then how do you define group? And for your future arguments please be more specific.
[editline]2nd December 2014[/editline]
They're not invading. Most immigrants come for a better life. That better life in the vast overwhelming number of cases involves then contributing in a positive manner.[/QUOTE]
[Quote]thereby implying your ethnicity is better than theirs because yours does not cause such things. [/Quote]
Except I'm not saying that, I think that Europeans mass immigrating to the middle-east would have a similar, if not the same effect, and it would make sense for the Middle-Easterners to try to stop the immigration, as should the Europeans when mass immigrants attack their culture
[url=http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/dec/01/muhammad-not-most-popular-boys-name-in-britain]No it isn't[/url]
[QUOTE=Doom64hunter;46619206]Your world views are about as outdated as the operating system you are using.[/QUOTE]
What's wrong with linux?
[QUOTE=MetricLuvsU;46619226]What's wrong with linux?[/QUOTE]
Alright now they're as outdated as your browser.
[QUOTE=MetricLuvsU;46619214]Except I'm not saying that, I think that Europeans mass immigrating to the middle-east would have a similar, if not the same effect, and it would make sense for the Middle-Easterners to try to stop the immigration, as should the Europeans when mass immigrants attack their culture[/QUOTE]
If that's think that's case, then people of different ethnicities will never be able to cohabit, correct?
[QUOTE=Episode;46618903]Isn't Muhammed a religious name? I mean, I personally can't see any average Caucasian family having a child named Muhammed. Just me personally, culture to culture. Different cultures, different names.[/QUOTE]
"Christian" is a name, btw.
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