[QUOTE=Lankist;19945234]Yes it's the government's fault not everyone in the nation has a PHD.[/QUOTE]
yay, you missed the point.
I hope we respond in kind, I truly don't care for China, Chinese people sure, but the Chinese Government can burn in Hell for all I care.
[QUOTE=Trotsky;19945292]yay, you missed the point.[/QUOTE]
That suddenly it's the government's responsibility to make sure people educate themselves on everything forever?
That's like saying it's the government's fault that it takes a college degree to fully understand the laws of thermodynamics. I mean they're just too important not to know, clearly there's some sort of manipulation going on.
Or maybe it's because history is complex and convoluted and most people don't have time to educate themselves on a subject they need not understand.
Why do I always imagine China's prime minister looking like Kim Jong Il even though I know he doesn't? You've gotta have some SERIOUS inadequacy problems to be such a dick. I mean, even Hitler was an ugly, nerdy midget.
[QUOTE=evilking1;19934932]ITT: People who don't know how global trade works.[/QUOTE]
ya i do
on turn 1 you make as many trade agreements as possible and then send whatever navy you have to reserve spots in the trade theatres (east coast of brazil, west coast of africa, straits of madagascar, and the east indies)
then when your spots are reserved start producing some trade ships with whatever extra money you have and sending them to your reserved slots in the trade theatres and BAM you're in business
try to get trade agreements with those nations that are furthest away from you as they'll give you the most income due to distance
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;19944534]I thought Taiwan was going to transition back into China..[/QUOTE]
Just as likely as Eastern Europe is going to agree to form a new Warsaw Pact.
Didn't they form some sort of formal agreement? Or was that Hong-Kong to China. . . :\
Yeah, the Sino-British Declaration agreed to hand over a chunk of rural Hong Kong to the PRC since the Qing Empire surrendered the city to the UK back in the 19th century, but come 1997 and they take the whole cake.
Interestingly enough, that's why my parents moved to Canada since they didn't want me to live in a city that would turn communist (pretty unlikely) by 2047.
[QUOTE=AtomicWaffle;19934699]It was primarily the Russians, to be perfectly honest. The Americans did provide significant reinforcements on the Western Front, but America didn't just swoop in and "Fuck their shit up"
Japan, on the other hand...[/QUOTE]
[img]http://www.propagandaposters.us/imagesofwar/b-17.jpg[/img]
They quite literally did. Actually.
Go back to your communist furry yiff sites where you draw communist furries and say stupid japanese words like kawaii. Also it's hosted in canada.
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[QUOTE=Conscript;19942752]They fail? Sometimes I think you don't have enough respect for the government. They're pretty good at what they do.
The Korean war was portrayed as communist aggression against free and democratic korea. There is no mention of the fact that the 'Republic' of korea at the time was a dictatorship, under the fascist Syngman Rhee. There was no mention of the numerous border conflicts he initiated with the DPRK, nor the declarations of its forceful annexation. There was no mention of his slaughter of south korean communists (who were hardly a minority) with the assistance of US army officers. There was no mention of the fact that the Republic of Korea was illegally and forcefully established, contrary to the legal, but communist state the Korean Peoples' Republic. Experiencing all of this, if I was Kim Il Sung I would have charged through the country, too.
There's a lot to be forgotten about korea. Convenient that it also happens to be the forgotten war.
The Vietnam War was portrayed again as communist aggression against a free and democratic country. But again the south end was a dictatorship, under the army colonel Nguyen Thieu. His government was, similar to south korea, corrupt and repressive. He was possibly the biggest hypocrite ever, always speaking of freedom yet centralizing the government under him and his allies and fighting to make vietnam a neo-colony. The vietnam war was a continuation war, part of its struggle for independence. Nationalism had as much to do with it as much as communism did.
Shall I go on?[/QUOTE]
[img]http://treebeard31.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/gran-torino-clint-eastwood.jpg[/img]
We used to stack shits like you 5 feet high in korea
[QUOTE=Lankist;19945473]That suddenly it's the government's responsibility to make sure people educate themselves on everything forever?
That's like saying it's the government's fault that it takes a college degree to fully understand the laws of thermodynamics. I mean they're just too important not to know, clearly there's some sort of manipulation going on.
Or maybe it's because history is complex and convoluted and most people don't have time to educate themselves on a subject they need not understand.[/QUOTE]
Strawman. I haven't said anything about how the government should teach people this and that. The government ALREADY teaches people about the korean and vietnam wars, but none of it is mentioned.
Anyway, it's more then just history. It's politics and government. It affects everyone. Are you, of all people, going too tell me that you don't care about your government's history because it's 'too convoluted and time consuming'?
[QUOTE=Conscript;19947050]Strawman. I haven't said anything about how the government should teach people this and that. The government ALREADY teaches people about the korean and vietnam wars, but none of it is mentioned. [/QUOTE]
none of what
what is "it"
My god, you people are like a bunch of old ladies bickering about what happened in the old days. What America did in the past cannot be changed, and it had several faults in its Cold War-era logic, such as supporting several dictatorships in an attempt to fight off communism, military action, et cetera. It was a misguided attempt to prevent the domino theory from coming true.
However, the best thing to do now is to apologize and move onto the future, establish better relations with countries we have wronged and/or supported, and try to avoid conflicts. Sometimes, like with these sanctions, lines have to be drawn. All in all, I'd rather have the Republic of China as a friend than the PRC. Mainland China might have the resources and the manpower, but their censorship and violation of human rights disgusts me.
[QUOTE=Conscript;19947050]Strawman. I haven't said anything about how the government should teach people this and that. The government ALREADY teaches people about the korean and vietnam wars, but none of it is mentioned.
Anyway, it's more then just history. It's politics and government. It affects everyone. Are you, of all people, going too tell me that you don't care about your government's history because it's 'too convoluted and time consuming'?[/QUOTE]
I have been watching you troll for some time now and I think your style is very reformed and complicated at the same time. Your major problem is you don't go after the right people, so much potential can be had with your style and you waste it pretending to be a teenage angst Stalin worshiper.
PM me so we can talk about this more, I think what you've got is gold and very original.
[QUOTE=Lankist;19947219]none of what
what is "it"[/QUOTE]
everything I mentioned in the one post above.
[QUOTE=Idi Amin;19947270]I have been watching you troll for some time now and I think your style is very reformed and complicated at the same time. Your major problem is you don't go after the right people, so much potential can be had with your style and you waste it pretending to be a teenage angst Stalin worshiper.
PM me so we can talk about this more, I think what you've got is gold and very original.[/QUOTE]
lol what. okay master yoda
[QUOTE=Conscript;19947394]everything I mentioned in the one post above.
lol what. okay master yoda[/QUOTE]
Theme, it's all about theme
[QUOTE=evilking1;19935497]2) China is evil it has deathcamps and commies and[b] USA has never done anything bad[/b][/QUOTE]
i'm not anti-america by any means, but you're just plain uneducated
he's a troll
[QUOTE=Split3ndz;19933552][b]Tiananmen[/b] square.
A lot. It didn't happen that long ago.[/QUOTE]
A few chines exchange students came to my school, I asked one of them (I befriended him) what he though of Tienanmen square, he said "nah that lies, rumors, didnt happen." the others never heard of it.
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;19947736]A few chines exchange students came to my school, I asked one of them (I befriended him) what he though of Tienanmen square, he said "nah that lies, rumors, didnt happen." the others never heard of it.[/QUOTE]
C is for censorship.
itt, we are all trolls feeding eachother. its a big orgy
Wait.
In Fallout 3, U.S.A had a war with China. This ended with a massive nuke being dropped.
The US is arguing with China.
2011.
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhh shit.
[QUOTE=Killuah;19933156]Half of the US economy depends on buying shit from China.
I mean come on, China has 1954 trillion dollars in foreign exchange.[/QUOTE]
The United States could run self sufficient on it's economy for decades. We really don't depend on China as much as the tree-hugging media makes it out to be
[QUOTE=Mikhail;19949578]The United States could run self sufficient on it's economy for decades. We really don't depend on China as much as the tree-hugging media makes it out to be[/QUOTE]
We could be self sufficient for the most part, shit would just get really damn expensive.
I like the arguments in this thread.
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;19943547]If worst comes to worst we'll just start outsourcing to Africa.[/QUOTE]
China is already big in Africa, sorry lad.
They bought A lot of companies there in the 80's.
[QUOTE=Sickle;19935800][I]Hey guys, why don't we sanction a world superpower because they said some stuff we didn't think was nice.[/I] :banjo:[/QUOTE]
The thing is, selling arms to Taiwan is the equivalent of the US actively funding a rebelion against the People's Republic of China.
It's like if China started selling weapons to a Communist party in America.
[QUOTE=Alyx;19933247]Well, China can self-sustain if their government decides to pull off another great leap forward again.[/QUOTE]
They can do another great leap forward off a cliff.
Anyhow, the weapons are there to ensure Taiwan keeps it's awkward status of "nation, not a nation." That way, we can have a reason to defend Taiwan if the time comes, and China can still keep claiming that Taiwan is their property.
I laugh at the phrase "anti-missile missiles."
I think this thread was doomed the moment Lankist made the first post
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