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[QUOTE=Carne;28747147]Just read that an American chopper killed 6 civilians while looking for the pilot.[/QUOTE] Where does it say they were killed? The link you provided says they were injured, not killed.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;28748905]Where does it say they were killed? The link you provided says they were injured, not killed.[/QUOTE] Sorry, a Norwegian site said they were killed, while this said they were injured. Mixed them up, sorry.
[QUOTE=Jsm;28747291]Is there anyone else reporting that? Relevant to that, in the other article it says Was that truly needed.[/QUOTE] That really doesn't sound like the parajumper MO. Seeing as it was a USAF pilot who went down, the parajumpers were undoubtedly the guys who recovered him. They do not do the guns blazing deal because it draws unwanted fire.
[QUOTE=GunFox;28749942]That really doesn't sound like the parajumper MO. Seeing as it was a USAF pilot who went down, the parajumpers were undoubtedly the guys who recovered him. They do not do the guns blazing deal because it draws unwanted fire.[/QUOTE] That is why it sounded a bit weird to me, surely when you are trying to rescue someone you would want to be as quick and quiet as possible? Bit of news coming from the BBC. 2047: Saudi Arabia has expressed its support for the military operation in Libya. The Saudis have moved to clamp down on protests in their own country, but they have been on bad terms with Col Gaddafi for years. UK Prime Minister David Cameron met Saudi Foreign Minister in London for talks on Tuesday. "Prince Saud expressed strong support for the aims of UNSCR 1973 [authorising the no-fly zone] and the steps being taken by the international community to enforce it," Downing St said in a statement after the meeting. That was expected eventually I guess. I wonder if they will provide any assistance? (I love the way the BBC have worded it though).
Anything interesting happen since the F-15 crash and pilot rescue?
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;28752287]Anything interesting happen since the F-15 crash and pilot rescue?[/QUOTE] Other than the allegation that 6 civilians were either injured or killed during the rescue of one the pilots I don't think so. From reading a few things on twitter (from the various people monitoring the radio waves) it seem that 2 incoming mirages (from Qatar?) had to make an emergency landing in Cyprus but that seems to be it. If I have missed anything I'd love to be corrected.
Also from reading Twitter (Mainly [url=http://twitter.com/FMCNL]FMCNL[/url]) it seems an [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_Grumman_E-8_Joint_STARS]E8-C[/url] or two are on their way in. The US are apparently using a Globalhawk UAV at the moment. Must be a slow day, its turned into plane spotting via twitter. [B]Edit:[/B] What the hell, no automerge. :saddowns: I didn't want to make a new post.
I just love the Al Jazeera theme song. If you haven't heard it, you should really listen to it. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn5SCech8UU[/media]
[QUOTE=TheTalon;28745895]They're alive and already out of Libya [editline]22nd March 2011[/editline] What was the reason all our F-15's were grounded the other month? Didn't a wing break off or something, and is that at all related to this incident?[/QUOTE] As far as I know no F-15E's were grounded. We've been flying day in and day out for months. Although in 2007 a jet basically tore apart in the air and they were like "oh these jets are old lets shut non critical missions down to check them over" but I'm been working on them for a while and we've never been grounded. I think they grounded the C models but I may be wrong, although I know the problem happened in 2007.
The dutch sends F-16's now too. [url]http://www.dutchdailynews.com/netherlands-libya-operation/[/url]
Holy [I]shit[/I], how did I not know about this conflict until just today.
[QUOTE=Mbbird;28761614]Holy [I]shit[/I], how did I not know about this conflict until just today.[/QUOTE] The same way Stewart was late to the party and making complaints that we didn't have a barrage of media releases :v:
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Mechanical failures my ass, it was shot down.
Badass? [img]http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/5989/lybia1.jpg[/img] [quote](March 22, 2011. Posted By: Bryan Chan, latimes.) Zuwaytinah, Libya - Rebel fighters at checkpoint in the eastern village. [/quote]
[QUOTE=Mabus;28764266]Mechanical failures my ass, it was shot down.[/QUOTE] Source.
[QUOTE=shian;28764489]Badass? [img_thumb]http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/5989/lybia1.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] Still not as badass as that picture with the guy holding an RPG.
[QUOTE=Mbbird;28761614]Holy [I]shit[/I], how did I not know about this conflict until just today.[/QUOTE] What the hell, do you live in a box or something. Serious question, where do you live? Do you not watch TV or read the internet? [editline]23rd March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Mabus;28764266]Mechanical failures my ass, it was shot down.[/QUOTE] Being shot would result in mechanical failure pretty quickly.
[QUOTE=Shadowstone;28758958]I just love the Al Jazeera theme song. If you haven't heard it, you should really listen to it. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn5SCech8UU[/media][/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEPcUWk8xEo[/media] I think the BBC have the best theme tune.
[QUOTE=shian;28764489]Badass? [img_thumb]http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/5989/lybia1.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] I like how you see photos of untrained rebels (these might not be untrained, but still) who have their ammunition double-taped :D
[QUOTE=Mbbird;28761614]Holy [I]shit[/I], how did I not know about this conflict until just today.[/QUOTE] Where have you been?
[QUOTE=Jsm;28728217]Blankets and food are useless if people are going to be attacked by their government.[/QUOTE] Blankets and food are useless if people are going to be attacked by other governments to.
They are intervening in Lybia because they can't do business with someone so blatantly murderous as Gadhaffi anymore.
1935: Another possible development on the future of the coalition: The steering group will be open to any interested countries, a French presidential source is quoted as saying by Reuters. lol. I am sure Libya would be interested in taking part in the "steering group". [editline]23rd March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Glorbo;28768232]They are intervening in Lybia because they can't do business with someone so blatantly murderous as Gadhaffi anymore.[/QUOTE] But he has been like this for decades, this isn't [I]that[/I] much worse than what he has done before.
[QUOTE=Jsm;28768238] But he has been like this for decades, this isn't [I]that[/I] much worse than what he has done before.[/QUOTE] They have been looking for an opprotunity for him to be replaced, and they just found it. This guy was kind of ruining their mojo for the past years.
Yey, a lot high ranking generals share my opinion. Us not taking part makes them and me ashamed of our country! :smith:
[QUOTE=ToXiCsoldier;28761574]The dutch sends F-16's now too. [url]http://www.dutchdailynews.com/netherlands-libya-operation/[/url][/QUOTE] Oh thank you SOOOOOO much for your TWO F-16's, Netherlands. I don't know what we'd do without you.
Libya: Allied air strikes secure Misrata for rebels Nearly 12 hours of allied air strikes have broken the Libyan regime's five-day bloody assault on the key rebel-held town of Misrata. Residents said yesterday that the aerial bombardment destroyed tanks and artillery and sent many of Muammar Gaddafi's forces fleeing from Misrata, ending a siege and attack by the regime that cost nearly 100 lives from random shelling, snipers and bitter street fighting. Mohammed Ali, an IT engineer at Misrata's main hospital, said that waves of air strikes began shortly after midnight on Wednesday. "They bombed a lot of sites of the Gaddafi army. There is a former hospital where his tanks were based. All the tanks and the hospital were destroyed. A column of tanks was destroyed on the edge of the city," he said. "After that there was no shelling. We are very relieved. We are very grateful. We want to thank the world. The Gaddafi forces are scattered around. All that is left is the snipers and our fighters can take care of them." Ali said people in Misrata wanted the coalition to keep up the air strikes until all Gaddafi's forces were driven away from the town to ensure that those who were able to escape with armoured vehicles and guns did not return. A doctor in the town, who did not want to be named, said snipers were continuing to sow fear by targeting not only rebels but civilians. "The sniper problem is a big one. A lot of people are still afraid to leave their homes," he said. The apparent breaking of the siege will be a blow to the Libyan ruler's attempts to reassert control over the entire west of the country. It may also serve as a further deterrent, along with the destruction of Gaddafi's tanks, artillery and soldiers that were attacking Benghazi, to those still fighting for the dictator. But it did not stop the regime's forces from continuing to put up stiff resistance around the strategic town of Ajdabiya in the east, despite repeated coalition bombing raids. Ali described the past five days of attack on Misrata as "hell". "It was crazy in the last five days. The hospital was overwhelmed. Ninety four people were killed. Sixty of them were civilians. Whole families were wiped out driving in their cars," he said. "The injured were more than 1,300. About 115 serious cases were kept in hospital. Everyone without life threatening injures was sent home. I've seen people who've just had a leg amputated sent home." Ali said that the town has had no water or electricity for nine days. The medical centre is running on a generator. The air strikes in and around Misrata suggest that what appears to be a tactic of Gaddafi's forces to shelter in residential areas, in response to the destruction of tanks and guns on the open desert road near Benghazi, has not provided protection. Residents of the town said that the coalition aircraft managed to destroy the regime's armour without any known civilian casualties. The revolutionary leadership has said that even if there are civilian casualties, they will be a necessary price to prevent even greater loss of life if Gaddafi's forces had continued their assault on Misrata and exacted revenge against the residents for their support of the uprising. The US military said that its intelligence showed Gaddafi's forces remained a threat to Misrata as well as remaining entrenched around Ajdabiya, where the regime's fighters have put up sustained resistance for three days despite several air attacks by coalition planes. Rear Admiral Gerard Hueber, chief of staff of operation Odyssey Dawn, said the coalition would continue its attacks on Gaddafi's ground forces in both places as well as other cities under assault by the regime. Hueber said the air attacks were aimed at preventing the regime's army from entering rebel-held cities as well as cutting supply and communication lines. But he admitted that Gaddafi's forces were making incursions into some cities and targeting civilians. People fleeing Ajdabiya said that civilians continued to be killed in the town even though most of the residents have left. Hamad Abdul Rahim drove along a desert track with his mother, wife and children, including two young daughters, crammed into a car to escape the town on Wednesday. "There was a lot of shelling last night. There are hundreds of Gaddafi men there. Many of them are not from Libya. They are African people. We saw them," he said. "Many people have died. Some were shot on the street by Gaddafi's men." The regime's army continued to keep the rebels at bay just outside the town with periodic shelling of the revolutionaries' front line, some of it intense. An ambulance driver described carrying away two dead rebels who were on the back of a pick-up truck with a mounted machine gun when they took a direct hit from a shell. The rebels say they are waiting for allied air strikes to destroy the tanks and artillery Gaddafi has around Ajdabiya before they attempt to take the town. Gaddafi's forces also kept up their bombardment of Zintan in the west. "The town is completely surrounded. The situation is very bad," the resident, Abdulrahman, told Reuters by telephone from the town. "They are getting reinforcements. Troops backed with tanks and vehicles are coming. We appeal to the allied forces to come and protect civilians." Hueber found himself in difficulty when questioned about whether the US was co-ordinating its attacks with rebel forces, which might be in breach of the UN mandate. Initially, he confirmed that US forces were consulting the rebels about their movements but later in the press conference he backtracked, saying: "I mis-stated that". He said that the US had communication lines to the Gaddafi regime warning them to pull back their forces. British aircraft flew over Libya yesterday, but for the second day running took no part in attacks, according to defence officials. The commander of British aircraft operating over Libya has said that Colonel Gaddafi's air force "no longer exists as a fighting force". Air Vice-Marshal Greg Bagwell said the allies could now operate "with near impunity" over the skies of Libya.
This hasn't been posted for a while. [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/Libyan_Uprising.svg/579px-Libyan_Uprising.svg.png[/img] Green - Cities controlled by pro-Gaddafi forces Brown(?) - Cities controlled by anti-Gaddafi forces (supported by coalition forces) Blue - Ongoing fighting/unclear situation (situation as of 22 March
[QUOTE=Jewsus;28770366]Oh thank you SOOOOOO much for your TWO F-16's, Netherlands. I don't know what we'd do without you.[/QUOTE] They would keep morale up by setting up coffee shops in the bases?
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