Finally Found: The Body That Goes With These Monstrous Dinosaur Arms - Polidicks

Was hoping for a sort of reverse t rex where the arms are gargantuan but the rest of the dinosaur is tiny as shit

I never understood why people dont want dinosaurs to be portrayed with feathers in movies. I think they look badass, especially when they give them colourful patterns. Yes, they might not look as intimidating, but the real scare isn't what they look like, it's what they do.

[QUOTE=pansarkurt;46333596]I never understood why people dont want dinosaurs to be portrayed with feathers in movies. I think they look badass, especially when they give them colourful patterns. Yes, they might not look as intimidating, but the real scare isn't what they look like, it's what they do.[/QUOTE] It's not like they couldn't be simultaneously feathered and intimidating either: [IMG]http://cdn.dinosaur-world.com/feathered_dinosaurs/thumbs/buitreraptor_gonzalezorum-web.gif?rewrite=true[/IMG] Besides, adult dinosaurs that were larger than hippos in warmer climates would most likely be nearly bare of feathers due to gigantothermy, much like why African elephants and most rhinoceroses have heavily reduced fur to cope with their own generated heat.

[IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/408914/Capture.PNG[/IMG]8/10 Would bang!

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[QUOTE=The Duke;46334861]It's not like they couldn't be simultaneously feathered and intimidating either: [IMG]http://cdn.dinosaur-world.com/feathered_dinosaurs/thumbs/buitreraptor_gonzalezorum-web.gif?rewrite=true[/IMG] Besides, adult dinosaurs that were larger than hippos in warmer climates would most likely be nearly bare of feathers due to gigantothermy, much like why African elephants and most rhinoceroses have heavily reduced fur to cope with their own generated heat.[/QUOTE] Pretty much everything you just said is wrong. Also that's a horrifyingly bad reconstruction, don't use it again. Here's one by Emily Willoughby, she knows her shit. [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/fyc4PSy.jpg[/img_thumb] (It's a Deinonychus) Feathers do a LOT more than insulate, they also serve as radiators and heat shields. I would also point out Yutyrannus, which is very close to the size of your average T. rex, had feathers covering the entire body. As far as we know, true feathers are exclusive to Coelurosaurs (A group that includes all modern birds), it's likely all Coelurosaurs had feathers to some degree, other Theropods like Spinosaurus and Allosaurus are not Coelurosaurs. Ornithischians sometimes have integument similar to hair, feathers or quills, but it is different in the same way Tegus are not Monitor lizards even though they fill the same niche and have very similar forms, same for the fuzzy integument of Pterosaurs.

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I was very disappointed when I entered this thread but what ensued instantly negated the initial reaction

[QUOTE=RR_Raptor65;46341792]Pretty much everything you just said is wrong. [/Quote] What exactly did I say that was so wrong? Gigantothermy does play a significant role into the relative hairlessness of megafauna in hotter, drier climates and could also be a factor toward why Emus and Ostriches have relatively smaller sections of their body feathered compared to Rheas, Kiwis and Cassowaries. [QUOTE=RR_Raptor65;46341792]Also that's a horrifyingly bad reconstruction, don't use it again. Here's one by Emily Willoughby, she knows her shit. [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/fyc4PSy.jpg[/img_thumb] (It's a Deinonychus)[/Quote] I'm aware of her art, here is another drawing from her that is similar to the one I posted. [T]http://emilywilloughby.com/gallery-data/images/balaur-bondoc.png[/T] It's also worth noting that she explicitly states in your image that it is a [u]speculative[/u] reconstruction, she also drew Deinonychus as this in the past : [T]http://emilywilloughby.com/gallery-data/images/deinonychus-on-the-beach.jpg[/T] I am unsure of why you are calling me out on the above picture though since I was just simply stating that a dinosaur could be both feathered and intimidating. [QUOTE=RR_Raptor65;46341792]Feathers do a LOT more than insulate, they also serve as radiators and heat shields. I would also point out Yutyrannus, which is very close to the size of your average T. rex, had feathers covering the entire body.[/Quote] Yutyrannus was found in North China, which at the determined age that the dinosaur was found would be significantly further north, nearly at a latitude comparable with modern Siberia, and thus would be, accounting for temperature, most likely similar to most of the modern US and probably experienced non-permanent snow in winter. It is thus a possibility that in the significantly warmer climate prevalent globally that many of the Coelurosaurs did not have full coats of feathers as adults. [QUOTE=RR_Raptor65;46341792]As far as we know, true feathers are exclusive to Coelurosaurs (A group that includes all modern birds), it's likely all Coelurosaurs had feathers to some degree, other Theropods like Spinosaurus and Allosaurus are not Coelurosaurs. Ornithischians sometimes have integument similar to hair, feathers or quills, but it is different in the same way Tegus are not Monitor lizards even though they fill the same niche and have very similar forms, same for the fuzzy integument of Pterosaurs.[/QUOTE] I already know this as well; I believe you may have misinterpreted what I meant about dinosaurs lacking heavy feathering, as I was trying to infer that most large dinosaurs would still likely be either relatively or fully naked of feathers, not that all dinosaur lineages had feathers with exception to the larger ones.

[QUOTE=The Duke;46346824]What exactly did I say that was so wrong? Gigantothermy does play a significant role into the relative hairlessness of megafauna in hotter, drier climates and could also be a factor toward why Emus and Ostriches have relatively smaller sections of their body feathered compared to Rheas, Kiwis and Cassowaries.[/QUOTE] Emus are very heavily feathered, heavily enough to thrive even in snowy environments. Even the 'bald' area on a mature Emu's neck is extremely fuzzy when seen up close. Emus also have a very high body temperature, 39.4C/103F. [QUOTE=The Duke;46346824]It's also worth noting that she explicitly states in your image that it is a [u]speculative[/u] reconstruction, she also drew Deinonychus as this in the past : [T]http://emilywilloughby.com/gallery-data/images/deinonychus-on-the-beach.jpg[/T] I am unsure of why you are calling me out on the above picture though since I was just simply stating that a dinosaur could be both feathered and intimidating.[/QUOTE] The image you posted is badly 'shrink wrapped' as it is called and is not an accurate portrayal of the animal, pretty much universally frowned upon in paleoart, the feathering is also very incorrect and Emily doesn't do her reconstructions in that way anymore. Osprey-like head feathers are at least occasionally a result of the decomposition process as well and it can be replicated in the bodies of modern birds that do not have crests in life. The speculative nature of the painting I posted is because she was portraying an arboreal Deinonychus, something which is speculative, but possible and not unheard of in other animals. The rest of the animal is perfectly fine. [QUOTE=The Duke;46346824]Yutyrannus was found in North China, which at the determined age that the dinosaur was found would be significantly further north, nearly at a latitude comparable with modern Siberia, and thus would be, accounting for temperature, most likely similar to most of the modern US and probably experienced non-permanent snow in winter. It is thus a possibility that in the significantly warmer climate prevalent globally that many of the Coelurosaurs did not have full coats of feathers as adults.[/QUOTE] Again, feathers can be used as a solution to both heat and cold, they do not purely insulate. Emus are extremely good at dealing with excess heat, don't let their appearance fool you, they have a very thick covering of feathers. The feathers block heat from sunlight and internal temperature is directed toward the tips of the feathers, away from the body. I have seen Emus with the feathers on their backs frozen solid, yet underneath are dry and very warm. I have also touched Emus in the summer where the feathers are actually too hot to touch with your bare hand for more than a second or two, but again they are a comfortable temperature underneath. Just because an animal lives in a hot or cold environment does not mean they must have a certain degree of integument as there are MANY different strategies for dealing with temperature. Elephants and Rhinos are a lot hairier than you might expect when seen up close, the hair they do have serves the same purpose by directing heat away from the body.

[QUOTE=RR_Raptor65;46350271]Emus are very heavily feathered, heavily enough to thrive even in snowy environments. Even the 'bald' area on a mature Emu's neck is extremely fuzzy when seen up close. Emus also have a very high body temperature, 39.4C/103F.[/QUOTE] Even still, aren't an emu's legs and underside (especially the underside of the wings) relatively bare of feathers while the neck skin is visible through the feathering? I was under the assumption that these exposed areas provided a cooling effect more effective than their feather coats, though their feathers certainly are specialized for reducing heat intake in hot temperatures. [QUOTE=RR_Raptor65;46350271] The image you posted is badly 'shrink wrapped' as it is called and is not an accurate portrayal of the animal, pretty much universally frowned upon in paleoart, the feathering is also very incorrect and Emily doesn't do her reconstructions in that way anymore. Osprey-like head feathers are at least occasionally a result of the decomposition process as well and it can be replicated in the bodies of modern birds that do not have crests in life.[/Quote] Fair enough. While I am typically against shrink-wrapping, I was just stating that, even with artists and researchers that know their stuff about dinosaurs, it's still not an uncommon way for them to be depicted. Ultimately, we most likely will never know what their true appearance (applying to most extinct organisms, really) was due to soft tissue being so malleable and blood loss disconfiguring the carcasses, so in effect they're all speculative in a way. [QUOTE=RR_Raptor65;46350271] Just because an animal lives in a hot or cold environment does not mean they must have a certain degree of integument as there are MANY different strategies for dealing with temperature. Elephants and Rhinos are a lot hairier than you might expect when seen up close, the hair they do have serves the same purpose by directing heat away from the body.[/QUOTE] While Elephants and Rhinos do certainly have hair, it's also fairly apparent how little fur and how much exposed skin African species have compared to both the smaller mammals sharing the environment with them and relatives in less arid climates. In particular, the Asian elephant and Sumatran Rhinoceros have significantly more hair cover than their African relatives.