[QUOTE=Zeke129;34657509]Find me a single religious text that mentions birth control drugs
prohibiting others from affordable birth control is not a tenet of any recognized religion[/QUOTE]
whether or not Glaber is correct that is a poor counter, everyone knows the Bible prohibits sex not for procreation.
[b]edit:[/b] or maybe I'm horribly wrong and can't find that in any source
I am glad a compromise was reached. I was getting sick of hearing Hannity bitch about it every evening on the radio. He needs to move on to his next comedic rant. I'm sure they will still bitch because the health insurance that is paid for by them has to pay for it.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;34657509]Find me a single religious text that mentions birth control drugs
prohibiting others from affordable birth control is not a tenet of any recognized religion[/QUOTE]
In the Bible God kills a man just for pulling out, never mind taking birth control. Christianity forbids sex unless you are willing to raise the child that comes from it.
[QUOTE=Melkor;34657864]You'd have to make a big fucking leap of logic to take that as banning birth control. And you still haven't answered my question. Why aren't Quakers exempt from paying war taxes?[/QUOTE]
fisrt off, is this even relevant, and second, if so then maybe you need to do some better questioning. The US apparently does not have a War tax. When I did a wiki search for war tax, this is the page I got: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_tax[/url]
I believe that the US uses whatever funds the military for war funds, and if funds are needed for war, the US has War bonds should they be needed.
Because of the optional nature of Warbonds, Quakers don't have to buy them. They are exempt from war taxes in the US because War taxes don't exist in the US, currently.
This article also leads me to believe the US doesn't have a War Tax Currently: [url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/a-war-tax-its-still-not-a-bad-idea/2011/08/11/gIQAfJLwHJ_story_1.html[/url]
If you believe otherwise, I require the information you have about US war taxes
[QUOTE=Ridge;34642239]What?? Quit hiding the truth.
I'm pro choice, but this is still forcing companies to pay for contraception products. They are taking the costs directly away from the employers and forcing it onto the insurance companies, resulting in increased premiums.[/QUOTE]
Do contraception products cost that much? Compared to say, actually getting pregnant?
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[QUOTE=Glaber;34657802]the bible does not mention birth control drugs, but in Genesis 1:27-28, it says
This is a core commandant in Christianity and is meant to increase the population. this is why forcing religious groups to provide birth control is a breach of not only the first amendment, but of separation of church and state
This is as close as you're going to get.[/QUOTE]
6,840,507,000 people is plenty of multiplying if you ask me
[QUOTE=Glaber;34659060]fisrt off, is this even relevant, and second, if so then maybe you need to do some better questioning. The US apparently does not have a War tax. When I did a wiki search for war tax, this is the page I got: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_tax[/url]
I believe that the US uses whatever funds the military for war funds, and if funds are needed for war, the US has War bonds should they be needed.
Because of the optional nature of Warbonds, Quakers don't have to buy them. They are exempt from war taxes in the US because War taxes don't exist in the US, currently.
This article also leads me to believe the US doesn't have a War Tax Currently: [url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/a-war-tax-its-still-not-a-bad-idea/2011/08/11/gIQAfJLwHJ_story_1.html[/url]
If you believe otherwise, I require the information you have about US war taxes[/QUOTE]
And the us also doesn't have a specific birth control tax either. Doesn't mean people aren't paying for it.
[QUOTE=Glaber;34657010][url]http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am1[/url]
the exercise of certain religions prohibit birth control drugs, by forcing religious groups to provide them you are prohibiting the free exercise of religion.[/QUOTE]
They're not forcing religious groups. They're forcing religious affiliated groups like hospitals and clinics. and I don't really see forcing an organization to provide contraception if needed as such a bad thing.
[QUOTE=Lizard Of Guilt;34659164]They're not forcing religious groups. They're forcing religious affiliated groups like hospitals and clinics. and I don't really see forcing an organization to provide contraception if needed as such a bad thing.[/QUOTE]
because if that organization is faith based, the only way they can get their exception is if they turn away people who are not of their faith. Causing more harm then good.
Guess they'll have to agree to it then
or the mandate could simply get ripped out so as to allow the religious issue to go away. Contraception based drugs will still be available weather religious based heath care groups provide them or not.
[QUOTE=Glaber;34659287]or the mandate could simply get ripped out so as to allow the religious issue to go away. Contraception based drugs will still be available weather religious based heath care groups provide them or not.[/QUOTE]
They don't have to provide them at all now. You can just get them for free from an unaffiliated insurance company if you work at a building affiliated with a religion that is not a church.
[QUOTE=Glaber;34659217]because if that organization is faith based, the only way they can get their exception is if they turn away people who are not of their faith. Causing more harm then good.[/QUOTE]
lol harm to who? manchildren who can't accept reality?
[QUOTE=Glaber;34657802]the bible does not mention birth control drugs, but in Genesis 1:27-28, it says
This is a core commandant in Christianity and is meant to increase the population. this is why forcing religious groups to provide birth control is a breach of not only the first amendment, but of separation of church and state
This is as close as you're going to get.[/QUOTE]
Wow dude. you din't even quote that bullshit about people getting stoned to death for their semen touching the ground.
Just saying "god said multiply" doesn't imply a rate at which to multiply. What difference does it make if you stop at 3 kids instead of going to 10 or 11.
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