North Korea launches missile from submarine, South Korea says - Polidicks

[QUOTE=proboardslol;50190862]If you want to help North Korean refugees, donate to libertyinnorthkorea.org or nkinusa.org If you want to read about North Korean refugees, I suggest reading "In Order to Live" by Yeonmi Park. I also have a copy of "Go go nippon! My first trip to japan" for the first person who shows me a receipt for donating at least $5 to either charity[/QUOTE] Can I donate 5 Zimbabwe dollars?

[QUOTE=soulharvester;50190798]I'm wondering what our immediate response would be if NK just started intentionally polluting and poisoning the pacific in an attempt to fuck with the rest of us, which they could probably do for a while before we picked up on it and could prevent it. Or if they developed salted nukes, the potential damage they could do by sabotaging the environment could potentially be more deadly than any out right attack in human deaths, not even mentioning the environmental fallout (With the obvious draw back that they'd be destroying themselves in the process). What exactly would we do? Would we treat it as an attack and invade in an attempt to mitigate long term damage, or try diplomatic options whilst they slowly poisoned future generation's food production?[/QUOTE] Despite their shit talk, I don't think lil Kim's ego is big enough to actually attack the west. We're still big bad motherfuckers to them. That's why South Korea is their hostage, because they're both small and close enough to invade/destory.

Just on a side note: don't you guys get a strong deja-vu feeling every time you read any thread related to some North Korea's action? I bet we could just copy the comments from the previous one to this one and no one would notice that something's wrong.

I find it ridiculous the states will invade iraq on pretences that they might have weapons of mass destruction(WMD), but they will not invade a country that actually has WMD. With this in mind, North korea could be a massive threat to us. North korea may seem archaic in terms of technology, but they have WMD, and we have no idea of actually knowing what they are capable of.

[QUOTE=ridinmybike;50191463]I find it ridiculous the states will invade iraq on pretences that they might have weapons of mass destruction(WMD), but they will not invade a country that actually has WMD. With this in mind, North korea could be a massive threat to us. North korea may seem archaic in terms of technology, but they have WMD, and we have no idea of actually knowing what they are capable of.[/QUOTE] Well, attaking the North can potentially backfire pretty hard, which was not a thing with Iraq. But actually all they (the north) can do with their WMD now is to dig it somewhere. They don't have a delivery system, and when they finally develop it, it would still take them decades to get a stockpile sufficient to overcome the modern air defence. But the thing is that by the time they get the said stockpile we would probably have much more advanced anti-air systems. The only real threat the North posseses comes from their conventional weapons, or, more precisely, from their artillery pointed at Seoul.

[QUOTE=Blazedol;50191139]Despite their shit talk, I don't think lil Kim's ego is big enough to actually attack the west. We're still big bad motherfuckers to them. That's why South Korea is their hostage, because they're both small and close enough to invade/destory.[/QUOTE] South Korea alone could annihilate nk

[QUOTE=ridinmybike;50191463]I find it ridiculous the states will invade iraq on pretences that they might have weapons of mass destruction(WMD), but they will not invade a country that actually has WMD. With this in mind, North korea could be a massive threat to us. North korea may seem archaic in terms of technology, but they have WMD, and we have no idea of actually knowing what they are capable of.[/QUOTE] Iraq wasn't in an active alliance with China, please remember that initiating force against North Korea gives china an excuse to fight on the Korean peninsula as well. North Korea has political ties to China and Russia and to attack them preemptively could snow ball in a very bad way.

[QUOTE=a-cookie;50190177]this kind of attitude was fun a few years ago, but in my opinion it's all a bit worrying now[/QUOTE] A few years ago people were still saying this [editline]24th April 2016[/editline] I feel like a lot of NK would defect in any significant event

[QUOTE=ridinmybike;50191463]I find it ridiculous the states will invade iraq on pretences that they might have weapons of mass destruction(WMD), but they will not invade a country that actually has WMD. With this in mind, North korea could be a massive threat to us. North korea may seem archaic in terms of technology, but they have WMD, and we have no idea of actually knowing what they are capable of.[/QUOTE] Well Sadam was using chemical weapons on his own people and causing a genocide, which is one of the main reason why we took action against him

[QUOTE=proboardslol;50192684]South Korea alone could annihilate nk[/QUOTE] Really? I didn't know that. But still, given NK's recent threats I'm not sure if [I]they[/I] know that. And their advancing technology worries me about the damage that'll happen to both sides when push comes to shove.

[QUOTE=Blazedol;50194550]Really? I didn't know that. But still, given NK's recent threats I'm not sure if [I]they[/I] know that. And their advancing technology worries me about the damage that'll happen to both sides when push comes to shove.[/QUOTE] They could if it was only South Korea vs. North Korea, but China is an important player in the Korean conflict and is defaulted on the side of the North.

[QUOTE=soulharvester;50194664]They could if it was only South Korea vs. North Korea, but China is an important player in the Korean conflict and is defaulted on the side of the North.[/QUOTE] Yes, but hasn't china been pissed off at NK recently for their constant stupid shit?

[QUOTE=Zenreon117;50194668]Yes, but hasn't china been pissed off at NK recently for their constant stupid shit?[/QUOTE] Yes but they are still very anti western influence and since SK is westernized they need NK as a buffer. I think NK would have to do something really dumb like actually trying to nuke someone to make China even consider a SK invasion or anything like it. I don't think SK wants to invade either way because that would mean the death of many Koreans.

[QUOTE=Zenreon117;50194668]Yes, but hasn't china been pissed off at NK recently for their constant stupid shit?[/QUOTE] They're pissed because they don't want NK to give anyone an excuse to invade them, because if North Korea provokes the war by striking first it significantly damages China's ability to help them or gain anything from the conflict without massive diplomatic fallout.

[QUOTE=maeZtro;50194748]Yes but they are still very anti western influence and since SK is westernized they need NK as a buffer. I think NK would have to do something really dumb like actually trying to nuke someone to make China even consider a SK invasion or anything like it. I don't think SK wants to invade either way because that would mean the death of many Koreans.[/QUOTE] China has more in common with South Korea than North Korea at this point, the need for a buffer doesn't really exist since China can exert a lot of economic pressure on the region

[QUOTE=Morgen;50190153]Nothing will happen but it is worrying. NK is growing more technologically advanced as time passes at a decent pace.[/QUOTE] Yeah, they'll soon be able to not botch a simple missile test!

[QUOTE=maeZtro;50194748]I don't think SK wants to invade either way because that would mean the death of many Koreans.[/QUOTE] No, they don't want to invade because then SK would be economically responsible for the millions of starving, unemployed, unskilled, and oppressed North Koreans.

[QUOTE=TheRealRudy;50195108]sk's ministry of unification was established for those very matters though[/QUOTE] You're telling me that SK can easily absorb the entire North Korean population without any hindrance to their economy?

Unless the Kim dynasty dies out and the military oligarchy propping it up disappears, Korea will not be unified by peaceful and diplomatic means.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;50195436]Unless the Kim dynasty dies out and the military oligarchy propping it up disappears, Korea will not be unified by peaceful and diplomatic means.[/QUOTE]The sad part is that korea was united before soviet and usa got involved and divided the country.

[QUOTE=CoreWaffle;50199286]The sad part is that korea was united before soviet and usa got involved and divided the country.[/QUOTE] Uhm...they were under Japanese colonial rule prior to the USA/USSR.

[QUOTE=soulharvester;50193982]Iraq wasn't in an active alliance with China, please remember that initiating force against North Korea gives china an excuse to fight on the Korean peninsula as well. North Korea has political ties to China and Russia and to attack them preemptively could snow ball in a very bad way.[/QUOTE] It sort of gives China an excuse, but they would never defend North Korea. Definitely not worth it. The issue with a Korean war is that Seoul is a mere 30 miles away from the DMZ. While we all agree that North Korea would lose the war quickly, they could inflict some massive damage considering the high population density so close to the DMZ. Furthermore, North Korean tunnels exist underneath Seoul which may allow troops to get into South Korea. Though we could shoot down a North Korean missile launch towards the South, they could more discretely drive the weapon into South Korea and detonate it (not very likely, I'll give you, but not beyond Kim to try).

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;50199363]Uhm...they were under Japanese colonial rule prior to the USA/USSR.[/QUOTE]Yes they were under Japanese colonial rule, but they were united culturally. If USA and soviet wouldn't have divided the country, N and S korea would've been one nation

[QUOTE=CoreWaffle;50200216]Yes they were under Japanese colonial rule, but they were united culturally. If USA and soviet wouldn't have divided the country, N and S korea would've been one nation[/QUOTE] I think the blame lies with the soviets honestly

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;50199363]Uhm...they were under Japanese colonial rule prior to the USA/USSR.[/QUOTE] Could have easily given the whole nation a united independence, but the Soviets opted to take a slice of every pie.

Secretly it was new technology all along, their missiles are short range because when they land in the ocean it bounces off submarines. All hail the great leader for his superior warfare inventions.