Microsoft paying youtube partners to praise the xbone - Polidicks

[QUOTE=KennyAwsum;43590253][video=youtube;TiWHDVGaamM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiWHDVGaamM[/video] What does age have to do with it?[/QUOTE] None of those even held a candle to the Old Navy or Carls Junior ads we have in the States

What's the use? the entire advertising industry is based solely around lies surrounding a grain of truth, which are the most effective form of lie anyway. Gone are the days when your product spoke for itself instead of relying on making tall claims that may or may not be true and paying people to advertise your crappy products.

Whoa hold up that email with the guidelines does not say you have to praise the xbone. Only incorporate gameplay and say you're playing it. If anything, you could literally just say "im playing the xbone" and nothing else.

[QUOTE=Agoat;43589375]Email in question [IMG]http://www.igameresponsibly.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/proxy.png[/IMG] Sounds like they're going to networks, not individuals. [editline]18th January 2014[/editline] Just like when actors on TV say they like something or wear a certain brand of clothes, right? Villainous! (Except it's not because they nobody is actually saying they like Xbone, they only have to play it)[/QUOTE] assuming it's even real

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;43590491]assuming it's even real[/QUOTE] Why don't you check the tag?

[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;43589556]no, 3$ per thousand views.[/QUOTE] And even then it's $3 extra ontop of the normal payment platform which is thousand monetized views. Machinina's promotions are pretty shit in general. They usually want you to promote stuff you are already expected to promote. I'd promote Xbox One if they gave me one.

[QUOTE=KennyAwsum;43590493]Why don't you check the tag?[/QUOTE] Well I mean assuming it's actually from Microsoft and not some guys laughing their ass off. It seems like the perfect viral prank

Put it on a pentagram and chant satanic words. That's still praise, right?

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;43590491]assuming it's even real[/QUOTE] What is real? The email? It is. I got one too.

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;43590512]Well I mean assuming it's actually from Microsoft and not some guys laughing their ass off. It seems like the perfect viral prank[/QUOTE] See if the authors of the videos correlate with Partnerships. Easy.

[QUOTE=Brt5470;43590523]What is real? The email? It is. I got one too.[/QUOTE] You're shitting me. Well I admit I'm wrong then. It just sounds like an incredibly stupid thing to do because it invalidates every single positive review for the xbox one.

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;43590543]You're shitting me. Well I admit I'm wrong then. It just sounds like an incredibly stupid thing to do because it invalidates every single positive review for the xbox one.[/QUOTE] ...Not really? You can outright shit on the Xbox One if you wanted to, its just an incentive to get more footage out.

[QUOTE=GaLm;43590572]...Not really? You can outright shit on the Xbox One if you wanted to, its just an incentive to get more footage out.[/QUOTE] Before you think this is okay for journalism.. [IMG]http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/0rbU0mzoMyw/maxresdefault.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=GaLm;43590572]...Not really? You can outright shit on the Xbox One if you wanted to, its just an incentive to get more footage out.[/QUOTE] Well most of those reviews are going to be positive because most people will be using their own Xbox one. If they didn't think it was shit before they bought it, it's unlikely they will think it's shit after.

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;43590623]Well most of those reviews are going to be positive because most people will be using their own Xbox one. If they didn't think it was shit before they bought it, it's unlikely they will think it's shit after.[/QUOTE] The email doesn't say anything about reviews. I could literally just make a 5 minute video of me running around in Dead Rising 3, say "I'm playing Dead Rising 3 on the Xbox One," and then be paid [I]slightly[/I] more than I would've been. Alongside that, as I said, it doesn't say ANYWHERE that the video has to be praising the Xbox One. These offers have been around for years, I've participated in a few of them, and never have I uttered a word of praise for the sake of it. Why would I? It doesn't add you to a radar for more offers, its literally a shotgun blast to all partners that accept the offer for extra money. Extra money for [B]footage[/B] I would have gotten anyways doesn't mean anything.

[QUOTE=Samiam22;43589325]No, it's scummy. Nothing short of bribery. What happened to praising a console because it was actually good, not because someone paid you?[/QUOTE] If you're looking to someone for an opinion and that someone turns out to be the type to take money for their opinions what even made you trust them in the first place

[QUOTE=GaLm;43590692]The email doesn't say anything about reviews. I could literally just make a 5 minute video of me running around in Dead Rising 3, say "I'm playing Dead Rising 3 on the Xbox One," and then be paid [I]slightly[/I] more than I would've been. Alongside that, as I said, it doesn't say ANYWHERE that the video has to be praising the Xbox One. These offers have been around for years, I've participated in a few of them, and never have I uttered a word of praise for the sake of it. Why would I? It doesn't add you to a radar for more offers, its literally a shotgun blast to all partners that accept the offer for extra money. Extra money for [B]footage[/B] I would have gotten anyways doesn't mean anything.[/QUOTE] I guess you have a point. Though it does mention "following guidelines attached" in the email, I'm just wondering if anyone knows what these guidelines are.

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;43590543]You're shitting me. Well I admit I'm wrong then. It just sounds like an incredibly stupid thing to do because it invalidates every single positive review for the xbox one.[/QUOTE] Nope, Machinima sends out possible promotions every month or so. We had one for NFS Rivals, Most wanted, Xbox One, COD MW3, E3, CES, etc. We usually get 1-3$ extra dollars per our normal pay rate. You have to put something in the title like E3M13 and in the description something like "A benefit of my partnership with machinima is these special promotions to promote various products and services, blah blah etc." I no longer do them because machinima never paid me for a promotion I worked on.

[QUOTE=Mike Tyson;43589367][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjB6r-HDDI0[/media][/QUOTE] it's so weird to see that dude from parks and rec, he looks and acts the exact same [editline]19th January 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=KennyAwsum;43590597]Before you think this is okay for journalism.. [IMG]http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/0rbU0mzoMyw/maxresdefault.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] i wish doritos would go full on ironic advertising and make fun of themselves for stuff like this

[QUOTE=Sally;43589313]That's just unethical marketing[/QUOTE] Fixed.

[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;43590337]Gone are the days when your product spoke for itself instead of relying on making tall claims that may or may not be true and paying people to advertise your crappy products.[/QUOTE] When were those days?

I'm sorry but is everyone too naive to understand how business works? It seems that everyone speaking out saying it is just advertising is getting thrashed and abused. I think it's just an advertising campaign like any campaign, people are calling it 'cheap' and 'unethical'. It's Microsoft, they are trying to generate as much of a following as they can to compete with Playstation. This is the real world, capitalism and I for one see nothing wrong with it. (mind you I don't watch youtubers or machinma directors(?) so I won't be barraged with xbox one commentaries in it for a quick buck).

[QUOTE=Two-Bit;43590948]I'm sorry but is everyone too naive to understand how business works? It seems that everyone speaking out saying it is just advertising is getting thrashed and abused. I think it's just an advertising campaign like any campaign, people are calling it 'cheap' and 'unethical'. It's Microsoft, they are trying to generate as much of a following as they can to compete with Playstation. This is the real world, capitalism and I for one see nothing wrong with it. (mind you I don't watch youtubers or machinma directors(?) so I won't be barraged with xbox one commentaries in it for a quick buck).[/QUOTE] Not everyone is a Capitalist.

I thought they were already doing this for years.

Everyone is a capitalist to some degree

[QUOTE=wickedplayer494;43590899]Fixed.[/QUOTE] ...But it's how all marketing works. Every time you turn the TV on you see dozens of people paid to get you to buy things. Why is it suddenly a moral outrage when a video game console does it?

[QUOTE=Two-Bit;43591013]Everyone is a capitalist to some degree[/QUOTE] I Bet Apple and Microsoft are Great Capitalists too. In All Seriousness, Microsoft's Marketing needs some work. Advertising Campaigns about Internet Explorer and How Superior Bing is to Google, for instance. It is kinda childish. [QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;43591046]...But it's how all marketing works. Every time you turn the TV on you see dozens of people paid to get you to buy things. Why is it suddenly a moral outrage when a video game console does it?[/QUOTE] Taking the Money to me seems like a Sellout Move, your literally saying "Xbox One" and playing a piece of in game content that is run on a Xbox One. Your doing it because you want the money, not because you like the console or anything. Brilliant, doesn't make you out to be hounding for money at all. I understand it is contract based, and optional but its literally 3 Dollars More. Im not going to sell out my morals for 3 Dollars.

Morals? Dude, it's video games. You're not selling out your army buddies to the Taliban here. Ain't nothing wrong with wanting a little bit of money.

[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;43591109]Morals? Dude, it's video games. You're not selling out your army buddies to the Taliban here. Ain't nothing wrong with wanting a little bit of money.[/QUOTE] [I]"Ain't nothing wrong with wanting a little bit of money."[/I] It says alot about yourself if your selling out your Fanbase for 3 Dollars.

Anyone who monetizes their videos is "selling out" by default already though; the monetized account gets money, and then YouTube shoves ads in the fanbase's collective face. And that's not even really a bad thing.