Youtube Purge: Youtubers losing tons of subscribers
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[QUOTE=Alice3173;50612835]Kinda a weird explanation considering that people have been complaining about having to resubscribe to channels they'd previously been subscribed to though.[/QUOTE]
i hadn't noticed it myself and only saw people complaining about it here, hours after i'd come to my conclusion. to be fair, people here complaining should've been a giant red flag that something was up.
I should bring out videos just in case I go below my tiny 94 subscribers to regain
[QUOTE=DatHarry;50612821]damn youtube, here i was justifying the subscriber loss as some kind of cleanup but they actually fucked up again lol
this gives me so many questions, how come the loss made my analytics correct? was that just coincidence? does this mean my analytics is supposed to be like 50 subs lower than my actual count?
this has been happening a lot recently with subs... idk how they keep fucking up the numbers but i can't help but feel like people like me, a creator with a smaller channel that has a small group of viewers that i know by name, could actually suffer quite badly from this if they don't recover the lost subs..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][URL="https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6392782"]We take the relationship between our content creators and their subscribers seriously and work hard to keep those numbers accurate by filtering out suspicious activity around the clock. We recently discovered a bug that prevented changes in subscriber counts from being accurately displayed publicly on creators’ channels.
The bug has now been fixed and creators’ public subscriber counts have been corrected. The bug did not affect subscriber counts reflected on YouTube Analytics, where you have had access to accurate subscriber numbers.[/URL][/QUOTE]
[editline]28th June 2016[/editline]
so my guess is that suspicious counts weren't actually being hidden from the public page
they caught it and pushed a fix
I think they were only deleting the inactive subscribers; those who haven't been online in a certain period of time.
Ironically this made me go check my subscription list, which led to me purging some of my lesser-watched subscriptions. I was assuming it was a bot cleanup or something but if it was they would've just said that right?
[QUOTE=J!NX;50612693]This has to be some kind of exploit[/QUOTE]
Nope seems more of a bug,
[url]http://i.imgur.com/cqPJrVG.png[/url]
Thanks youtube lost almost all my subs i only have 600 left compared to my 6k wtf
for this month, it seems to only effect this month
I think I fell victim to this in reverse the other day. I couldn't find boogie along with a few other of my subscriptions, only to have them pop to the top of my subscription list as if I added them that day.
RandonsPlays, a famous brazilian youtuber, just lost 33k.
[img]https://a.pomf.cat/ohtllc.png[/img]
[url]http://socialblade.com/youtube/user/randonsplays/monthly[/url]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/Xd3AqUZ.jpg[/t]
I lost over 22 subscribers, thought it was over a new video but I was wrong
:(
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;50613087][t]http://i.imgur.com/Xd3AqUZ.jpg[/t]
I lost over 22 subscribers, thought it was over a new video but I was wrong
:([/QUOTE]
I lost just one m8, and I was kinda surprised that it was just one. I was expecting half of my 19 subs.
I lost 0 subs! Of course, I've only got 37 total...
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;50613087][t]http://i.imgur.com/Xd3AqUZ.jpg[/t]
I lost over 22 subscribers, thought it was over a new video but I was wrong
:([/QUOTE]
i left the socialblade realtime timer on my screen last night after publishign a video that i didn't think was very good, and when i woke up to being 54 subs down i was just like "damn i guess that really was a bad vid"
[URL="https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6392782"]Youtube fixed a bug. [/URL]
[QUOTE=TheDrunkenOne;50612488]it's probably more than that. when markiplier got hacked it was revealed he made 650k at 11m subs.
now quadruple that...[/QUOTE]
A week? Month? Year? Source?
[QUOTE=Zeos;50612354]Funhaus just celebrated 1 million subscribers... And immediately lost 40 thousand :v:[/QUOTE]
[video]https://youtu.be/aTrK9r8lwD8?t=492[/video]
8 min 12 secs
I lost about 500 myself. Welp, there goes my hugbox.
I feel bad for people who seriously depend on youtube, you can't take it seriously.
I am by no means popular, but I recall several years ago, I made some stupid parody video which I uploaded to Youtube to show to friends, where it got 8 views that day.
I forgot about that video, and several years later, I got an email from youtube that my video was taken down for copy right reasons (by someone who had nothing to do with the video anyways).
my video still only had 8 views
lost ~8,000 [URL="https://socialblade.com/youtube/user/mtvnoob"]myself[/URL]. According to various sources, many active subscribers were unsubscribed without notice (though i assume this was said already). Youtube also confirmed on twitter they themselves weren't aware why it was happening.
I couldn't care less if it was only inactive/bot accounts, it makes sense to make the sub count reflect expected view numbers. But it's pretty arbitrary to unsub people who otherwise wouldn't have unsubscribed. I expect it's some youtube errors behind the scenes, information randomly getting deleted, hope they fix it since this has happened a handful of times now..
TeamYoutube CLAIMS "We recently discovered a bug that prevented changes in subscriber counts from being accurately displayed publicly on creators’ channels."
I don't think this is entirely correct. Again, multiple people have said "I was unsubscribed from X person even though I frequently watch them". Sounds like damage control
I don't really care if they return the lost subscribers, I doubt they can or will anyways, but it'd be nice to hear the real reason the error happened.
[QUOTE=Punchy;50613469]lost ~8,000 [URL="https://socialblade.com/youtube/user/mtvnoob"]myself[/URL]. According to various sources, many active subscribers were unsubscribed without notice (though i assume this was said already). Youtube also confirmed on twitter they themselves weren't aware why it was happening.
I couldn't care less if it was only inactive/bot accounts, it makes sense to make the sub count reflect expected view numbers. But it's pretty arbitrary to unsub people who otherwise wouldn't have unsubscribed. I expect it's some youtube errors behind the scenes, information randomly getting deleted, hope they fix it since this has happened a handful of times now..
TeamYoutube CLAIMS "We recently discovered a bug that prevented changes in subscriber counts from being accurately displayed publicly on creators’ channels."
I don't think this is entirely correct. Again, multiple people have said "I was unsubscribed from X person even though I frequently watch them". Sounds like damage control
I don't really care if they return the lost subscribers, I doubt they can or will anyways, but it'd be nice to hear the real reason the error happened.[/QUOTE]
We just found a bug, after being contacted by smaller to medium youtubers about this problem for two months now; Sorry I smell bullshit.
I just lost 260 subscribers.
This also happened to me earlier in the year. I lost 500 subscribers randomly, and it didn't show up in my analytics. After a few days, they all came back as suddenly as they vanished.
I seem to have taken a small hit, going from 40k to 38k. Wonder what this is all about.
[QUOTE=Punchy;50613469]lost ~8,000 [URL="https://socialblade.com/youtube/user/mtvnoob"]myself[/URL]. According to various sources, many active subscribers were unsubscribed without notice (though i assume this was said already). Youtube also confirmed on twitter they themselves weren't aware why it was happening.
I couldn't care less if it was only inactive/bot accounts, it makes sense to make the sub count reflect expected view numbers. But it's pretty arbitrary to unsub people who otherwise wouldn't have unsubscribed. I expect it's some youtube errors behind the scenes, information randomly getting deleted, hope they fix it since this has happened a handful of times now..
TeamYoutube CLAIMS "We recently discovered a bug that prevented changes in subscriber counts from being accurately displayed publicly on creators’ channels."
I don't think this is entirely correct. Again, multiple people have said "I was unsubscribed from X person even though I frequently watch them". Sounds like damage control
I don't really care if they return the lost subscribers, I doubt they can or will anyways, but it'd be nice to hear the real reason the error happened.[/QUOTE]
There are multiple theorys on it
1. It's a bug like what Omni just said
2. They are removing inactive (Which I think is untrue)
Also I enjoy your videos.
My sub count is still the same I think.
Jokes on you, youtube! [I]I don't have any subs![/I]
I haven't lost any. I'm sitting at 137. I actually gained a few today, so colour me happy.
[QUOTE=Tools;50612698]I have spotted a few subscriptions of mine have gone missing, and I've had to re-sub.
No clue why it's happening, but it's annoying on both ends.[/QUOTE]
Any way to look which may have been removed? There might be channels that I might not have noticed gone unless pointed out. Some channels just upload a bit sparingly and I eventually forget, even thought I love their content.
I've been losing 2~3 over the last 9 days, little annoying but then again I really wonder who wants to watch to the dumb shit I upload.
Earlier this month I heard about a lot of people getting a sudden unexpected rise in subscribers (myself included) so I assume that whatever happened back then was the fuckup, and that they're fixing it now.
I gained like 50 subscribers this month then lost 12 today, so not a huge deal for me I guess
This has been occuring to me on and off, where I'd lose the subs and then slowly gain them back overtime, either cause the system makes them re-sub or they re-sub themselves. It really restricts the growth of a channel at times.
well if we're going off of just socialblade numbers instead of them w/ analytics numbers, there's no way to prove anything yet
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