Spectre is massively overbudget and may be the most expensive film ever made
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[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;46690587][url]http://vimeo.com/user14892558/bond[/url]
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holy shit the commentary on that was hilarious. and shit, i knew bond was fucking terrible but damn
why is this like a contest for movies nowadays, to be the highest spending movie ever? i've seen lots of great movies that don't have the budgets that some of these new movies do, and some of the new blockbuster hits sort of pale in comparison to these older flicks. don't get me wrong, i think it's still possible to make movies just as good as they used to, but it's simply silly that movies and other forms of media are competing to spend the most money possible as an advertising point.
[QUOTE=Keelwar;46693266]why is this like a contest for movies nowadays, to be the highest spending movie ever? i've seen lots of great movies that don't have the budgets that some of these new movies do, and some of the new blockbuster hits sort of pale in comparison to these older flicks. don't get me wrong, i think it's still possible to make movies just as good as they used to, but it's simply silly that movies and other forms of media are competing to spend the most money possible as an advertising point.[/QUOTE]
Remember when it used to be about who can MAKE the most money and making something original?
[QUOTE=Buck.;46693273]Remember when it used to be about who can MAKE the most money?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, like right now.
a lot of that budget will go to casting.
[QUOTE=NisseN;46689903]What the hell?! They've only been filming for like a week![/QUOTE]
Movie studios will charge everything they can against the budget of a movie. This is why you never take a percentage of profit, but instead a percentage of gross. Some movies technically never make a profit because of huge costs like this. I think MGM saw an opportunity with this movie. It's easy to find investors for the next James Bond movie, then all you have to do is charge off a bunch of crap and tell your partners "Sorry guys, but it's a bit over budget" and what are they going to do? They are stuck.
This could be hilarious
[QUOTE=hrak;46690918]Positively reinforcing 'alpha' behavior is the way natural selection weeded out the genetically inferior.[/QUOTE]
I'm having a hard time imagining this is a real comment that got people pushing the agree button
Is this a satirical and I'm missing something?
Lazenby was great, it was only his agent that was fucking ruined him from not reprising his role as Bond. He had acouple great post-bond movies too but not much after those.
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;46690587][url]http://vimeo.com/user14892558/bond[/url]
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To be honest, James Bond is a horrible person whom still manages to save the world with pure, dumb luck. He's a chain-smoker, alcoholic, misogynist, clumsy, and extremely terrible at getting shit done by himself/not getting caught.
[QUOTE=TheKritter71;46693762]Lazenby was great, it was only his agent that was fucking ruined him from not reprising his role as Bond. He had acouple great post-bond movies too but not much after those.[/QUOTE]
Dalton will always be one of my favourites b/c he was straight up brutal.
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;46690877]yeh i totally get that and i still think you can totally appreciate the films as long as you have a "wow this is so archaic" attitude to it (personally i wouldn't though - i think most of the films are boring as shit)
but in your words you "really miss the older James Bonds" which is a bit weird cos it implies you want them to make more? and for the new ones to be more like the old ones? which is odd cos like you say they're totally old fashioned terrible male power fantasy movies where the hero literally gets away with raping people[/QUOTE]
Oh holy fuck are you being serious right now, you're acting like that's the entire fucking film.
Is GTASA with the Hot Coffee mod now a fucking porno?
I didn't like Skyfall too much so for this much dosh I hope it's a good time.
[QUOTE=AlienFanatic;46690599]really i wish lazenby + dalton split the moore bonds between them, dalton picking up at octopussy and ending at goldeneye or somewhere around there
connery is overrated imo, still fun for a watch but overrated
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if lazenby stayed on he would have become a more natural bond, and the death of tracy could have added a light of seriousness to some of the moore flicks
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moral of the story lazenbys agent was a fucking moron[/QUOTE]
Oh god I heard about that, how his agent told him "this is going to be a short lived thing, you have better projects coming your way".
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;46690877]male power fantasy movies where the hero literally gets away with raping people[/QUOTE]
Stop being so politically correct. It's a work of fiction.
[QUOTE=hrak;46690918]Don't be so crotchety. ? It's ingrained in the male brain. Positively reinforcing 'alpha' behavior is the way natural selection weeded out the genetically inferior. And you really ought not to hold something against people when they have no control over it.[/QUOTE]
Explain how someone can be "genetically inferior" please. Then explain how the idea of an alpha male applies to modern society.
Honestly did you people read that post or did you see something that looked vaguely intellectual and press the agree button.
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because the post literally advocates eugenics
It's just a fucking movie, get over it. If you don't like them or like who Bond is, then don't watch the fucking things.
[QUOTE=zombays;46693763]To be honest, James Bond is a horrible person whom still manages to save the world with pure, dumb luck. He's a chain-smoker, alcoholic, misogynist, clumsy, and extremely terrible at getting shit done by himself/not getting caught.[/QUOTE]
it's weird because apparently bond consistently being a crazy fuck-up is intentional, and yet most of the stuff that make him worse today are things fleming actually seriously believed (like Koreans being below apes in relation to humanity, lesbians not really existing, etc.)
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[QUOTE=sasherz;46694760]Stop being so politically correct. It's a work of fiction.[/QUOTE]
well to be fair "rapes gay people" is not usually a very good character trait in an escapist male power fantasy. like indiana jones or batman would have at least punched james bond if they saw him trying to pull that, or probably tossed him out a window. it's not what i call wish fulfillment
Yeah I don't see the point of all this argument. People in those movies also kill each other, which is most certainly morally worse, but I don't see you up in arms about it.
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;46693634]I'm having a hard time imagining this is a real comment that got people pushing the agree button
Is this a satirical and I'm missing something?[/QUOTE]
People probably agreed with the first part and didn't read far enough.
[QUOTE=_Axel;46696751]Yeah I don't see the point of all this argument. People in those movies also kills each other, which is most certainly morally worse, but I don't see you up in arms about it.[/QUOTE]
I'm no expert but I can think of a few reasons why.
First: The "good guys" in movies tend to only kill people when it's necessary to save themselves or someone else.
Second: I don't have anything to back this up, but I can imagine that it's easier for the people watching to understand that although the characters kill others, that is something that is wrong and should be kept to the fiction, exactly because it's so much morally worse. Killing being morally unacceptable is also something pretty much everyone agrees on.
Sexism doesn't have the same kind of universal moral disapproval (especially when you include things that most people do and say every day without really thinking about them and the implications), and therefore a power figure and "hero" to many people might be more likely to make the impression that this is something that's acceptable.
Just a couple ideas.
James bond is quite literally a psychopath, he fucks people over to get the job done for the government no matter what the cost is, he murders people without losing a wink of sleep over it and the thing you dullards are worried about is that he didn't get "affirmative consent" in scenes clearly mired in sexual flirtation. Theres an amusing lack of consistency in your ideology when you're worried about on screen sexism yet you don't bat an eye at wanton violence.
Then again if it happens to men its just good make believe. If it happens to women, its a social problem that requires years of analysis by the kind of halfwits who think jaws is secretly about immigrant fear and not just a fucking murderous shark.
$100 million dollars in real prop money for the Christopher Waltz and Bong fight in the $100 million dollar evil lair moneypit scene
[QUOTE=MachiniOs;46693854]Dalton will always be one of my favourites b/c he was straight up brutal.[/QUOTE]
Dalton read and studied all the books when he got the role, because he really wanted to immerse himself into the character.
[url]http://defamer.gawker.com/new-bond-script-leaks-execs-scrambling-to-fix-awful-en-1670479885/+maxread[/url]
This is pretty interesting. The studio execs are freaking out because the ending is shitty and doesn't make any sense. Spoilers, obviously, since the article is based on a leaked script and leaked e-mails.
This whole episode has turned into a treasure trove for anyone interested in the inner-workings of a movie studio. Spoiler alert: They're [I]full[/I] of incompetent and stupid people.
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This whole episode has turned into a treasure trove for anyone interested in the inner-workings of a movie studio. Spoiler alert: They're [I]full[/I] of incompetent and stupid people.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like the inner workings of just about everywhere :v:
[QUOTE=Fr3ddi3;46690798]I honestly can't remember the last time the 'most expensive film to date' lived up to expectations.
There's a few decent ones dotted about i admit but nothing amazing.[/QUOTE]
Apocalypse Now was close to being the most expensive film ever made when it came out (Superman came out one year earlier and was somehow much higher budget) and it's generally considered one of the best movies ever made.
It was only supposed to cost 14 million dollars and ended up costing more than 31 million.
Superman was also very well received when it came out even though it doesn't hold up particularly well now.
How did james bond start rubbing people's vaginas the wrong way?
He's fucking JAMES BOND. He's a man's man. Maybe new generations just don't get it. It's all done in a tongue and cheek way anyways, it's meant to make you chuckle. Literally every single bond movie barring the modern ones are all silly in their own ways, and bond is a silly badass character who every man wishes he could be once in a while.
I swear some people were just hugged by their mother's too many times. It's a fucking movie, get over it.
[QUOTE=BenJammin';46703505]How did james bond start rubbing people's vaginas the wrong way?
He's fucking JAMES BOND. He's a man's man. Maybe new generations just don't get it. It's all done in a tongue and cheek way anyways, it's meant to make you chuckle. Literally every single bond movie barring the modern ones are all silly in their own ways, and bond is a silly badass character who every man wishes he could be once in a while.
I swear some people were just hugged by their mother's too many times. It's a fucking movie, get over it.[/QUOTE]
[quote=Casino Royale]And now he knew that … the conquest of her body, because of the central privacy in her, would have the sweet tang of rape.[/quote]
Ian Fleming actually was just a biiit of a weirdo and it being the 60s didn't help any. Bond is great but you have to admit the culture the original works and many of the movies represent.
Incidentally, I couldn't resist but have a quick look at what was going on with London filming today.
[url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2874348/Daniel-Craig-James-Bond-mode-flies-Thames-speed-boat-Rory-Kinnear.html]It wasn't subtle.[/url]
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