Unbelievable: US calls Israel to investigate into its own crime (Flotilla) - Polidicks

[QUOTE=aydin690;22328077]YEAH, SOOOO DEScRuCTIVE!!1! [IMG]http://cache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/gaza_01_07/g07_17466021.jpg[/IMG] Those rockets are nothing but plumbing fixtures...[/QUOTE] Showing a picture of an individual rocket that didn't hit anywhere with people is not evidence that they are not dangerous. Considering there is no standard model of rocket used, doing this is even more disingenuous. Oh look: [img]http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/gaza-mar-19-1.jpg[/img] [img]http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2008/02/28/pa2.jpg[/img] Since I posted 2 images, I believe I now have the one-up on you.

[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22327812]Well as you can see from page 7, a military ship is allowed to board a vessel if it's heading to break a blockade.[/QUOTE] Are you reading previous posts? I won't argue that it is, but the blockade is illegal as determined by the UN and later on the International Court of Justice when Israel objected.

Heh, reading the Norwegian news sites at the moment. One guy saying they confiscated his razor as a "weapon", and others say the Israeli troops took their phones and threw them overboard.

[QUOTE=CriticalThought;22328218]Showing a picture of an individual rocket that didn't hit anywhere with people is not evidence that they are not dangerous. Considering there is no standard model of rocket used, doing this is even more disingenuous. Oh look: [IMG]http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/gaza-mar-19-1.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2008/02/28/pa2.jpg[/IMG] Since I posted 2 images, I believe I now have the one-up on you.[/QUOTE] LOL the 2nd picture is a Palestinian hit by indiscriminate IDF bombings.

[QUOTE=Jugulum;22328189]Actually, it's not that simple, and I am trying to dig out the corresponding law from the Convention of the Law of the sea that says that any ship carrying humanitarian aid is not to be stopped. As a side note, these ships were fully searched in the harbours they departed from, and were confirmed not to carry any weapons nor contraband. Maritime law is taken very seriously, since if the sea was in a state of free-for-all, state sanctioned piracy becomes a huge issue (See Privateers). There is no legal grounds for Israel on this issue, they had no rights to attack these vessels, and those involved should be brought to justice. Unfortunately they won't because US has once again stepped in and given Israel the free card(See Goldstein report). I think that if Israel actually had to follow the international laws for once, they wouldn't do this at this magnitude. As it stands, they pretty much know they can get away with it because they've got America protecting them.[/QUOTE] Goldstein? Do you mean Goldstone? If so, I'm pretty sure the report was highly critical of Israel.

I just heard on CNN that another ship is attempting to break the blockade [b]right now[/b], and this one doesn't plan on going out quietly. Get the popcorn folks.

[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22328283]Goldstein? Do you mean Goldstone? If so, I'm pretty sure the report was highly critical of Israel.[/QUOTE] Indeed it was, and for some [I]strange[/I] reason it was condemned in the US.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;22328284]I just heard on CNN that another ship is attempting to break the blockade [b]right now[/b], and this one doesn't plan on going out quietly. Get the popcorn folks.[/QUOTE] :munch:

[QUOTE=Jugulum;22328314]Indeed it was, and for some [I]strange[/I] reason it was condemned in the US.[/QUOTE] Can someone explain to me why the United States, a predominately Christian country, is so Zionist? It doesn't make much sense to me. Is it simply the anti-Muslim sentiment taking priority?

[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22328283]Goldstein? Do you mean Goldstone? If so, I'm pretty sure the report was highly critical of Israel.[/QUOTE] Ah Goldstone. You mean the guy Israel accused of being antisemitic even though he's Jewish himself?

[QUOTE=CriticalThought;22328218] [IMG]http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2008/02/28/pa2.jpg[/IMG] Since I posted 2 images, I believe I now have the one-up on you.[/QUOTE] AHAHAHaaaH! Way to fail. That's a picture of dead Palestinian child. Also, for every picture of Israeli casualty i can show you 50x pictures of palestinian casualties...

[QUOTE=Zeke129;22328340]Can someone explain to me why the United States, a predominately Christian country, is so Zionist? It doesn't make much sense to me. Is it simply the anti-Muslim sentiment taking priority?[/QUOTE]I always thought it might have something to do with how in the final book of the New Testament, Revelations, the rebirth of Israel is one of the prophecies for Jesus' return. There's also some stuff about the Anti-Christ fooling the nation and all. I may be totally wrong though.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;22328340]Can someone explain to me why the United States, a predominately Christian country, is so Zionist? It doesn't make much sense to me. Is it simply the anti-Muslim sentiment taking priority?[/QUOTE] ZOG, nah jk. The massive pro-Israeli lobby. Your policies have to satsify Israel, if you want a majority vote. That's why Jimmy Carter [B]only [/B]started exposing Israel WHEN he was out of office. Maybe in the next 20 years, when the public slowly starts to realize Israels atrocious actions, they'd like to vote for someone who will be tough with Israel.

[QUOTE=starpluck;22328256]LOL the 2nd picture is a Palestinian hit by indiscriminate IDF bombings.[/QUOTE] Actually, palestinians have been hit by their own rockets as well, when hamas rockets failed and landed prematurely. Also, if you knew the process it takes to drop a single bomb in gaza you wouldn't exactly call them indiscriminate. It is hamas firing from houses and using children as cover that's causing those civilian casualties.

[QUOTE=starpluck;22328197] Also, here some interesting statistics from ANERA: [INDENT][release]8 out of 10 Gazans depend on foreign aid to survive. The World Food Program says Gaza requires a minimum of 400 trucks a day to meet basic nutritional needs - yet an average of just 171 trucks worth of supplies enters Gaza every week, Clothes that were held in the port of Ashdod for over a year were released into Gaza but arrived covered with mold and mildew, unusable. 95% of Gaza's water fails World Health Organization standards leaving thousands of newborns at risk of poisoning. Anemia for children under the age of 5 is estimated at 48%. 75 million liters of untreated sewage are pumped into the Mediterranean Sea every day - because piping and spare parts are not permitted.[/release] [/INDENT]During the 2009 bombing: [release] [INDENT]More than 120,000 jobs were lost as Gaza's industrial zone was destroyed... 15,000 homes and apartments were damaged or destroyed... 1/3 of all schools were destroyed. None of these can be rebuilt, because construction supplies are kept out by the Israeli authorities.[/INDENT][/release][/QUOTE] Don't mean to interfere but, could you provide the website that you quoted those paragraphs from?

[quote=zeke129;22328340]can someone explain to me why the united states, a predominately christian country, is so zionist? It doesn't make much sense to me. Is it simply the anti-muslim sentiment taking priority?[/quote] aipac

[QUOTE=Jugulum;22328314]Indeed it was, and for some [I]strange[/I] reason it was condemned in the US.[/QUOTE] It was condemned because it was based on Palestinians' evidence and didn't base its claims on evidence or proof.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;22328284]I just heard on CNN that another ship is attempting to break the blockade [b]right now[/b], and this one doesn't plan on going out quietly. Get the popcorn folks.[/QUOTE] i read that they had a webcam onboard. any links?

[QUOTE=aydin690;22328377]AHAHAHaaaH! Way to fail. That's a picture of dead Palestinian child. Also, for every picture of Israeli casualty i can show you 50x pictures of palestinian casualties...[/QUOTE] This isn't a "who suffers most" contest, please stop posting these unrelated pictures as they contribute nothing to the discussion.

[QUOTE=starpluck;22328256]LOL the 2nd picture is a Palestinian hit by indiscriminate IDF bombings.[/QUOTE] Lol you are right, I just google imaged hamas rocket attack and posted what I saw. Although I guess it goes to show how disingenuous posting trying to argue with pics like this really is. Also I'd like to point out the Haneen Zoubi is Anti-Israel and Pro-Palestinian, and supports Iran's nuclear program. I wonder how many Anti-Palestinian/Pro-Israel members there are in Hamas's cabinet. I'd also like to point out that she says the Navy fired on the ship, yet I am unaware of any casualties or damage sustained from this firing. Warning shots?

[QUOTE=aydin690;22328377]AHAHAHaaaH! Way to fail. That's a picture of dead Palestinian child. Also, for every picture of Israeli casualty i can show you 50x pictures of palestinian casualties...[/QUOTE] if you knew the process it takes to drop a single bomb in gaza you wouldn't exactly call them indiscriminate. It is hamas firing from houses and using children as cover that's causing those civilian casualties.

[QUOTE=starpluck;22328197] (There is no truth to the story that Israel would have delivered the goods on the ships to Gaza, judging by years of precedent, the IDF would have [URL="http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/amira-hass-israel-bans-books-music-and-clothes-from-entering-gaza-1.276147"]blocked[/URL] any delivery). [/QUOTE] How about the fact that they did send all the supplies from the ships except for medicine which was out of date? [url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=947389[/url]

[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22328452]This isn't a "who suffers most" contest, please stop posting these unrelated pictures as they contribute nothing to the discussion.[/QUOTE] That was CT.

[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22328501]How about the fact that they did send all the supplies from the ships except for medicine which was out of date? [url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=947389[/url][/QUOTE] And now he's going to say: "that's bullshit, they just filmed what they wanted to film and then threw all the supplies away"

[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22328501]How about the fact that they did send all the supplies from the ships except for medicine which was out of date? [URL]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=947389[/URL][/QUOTE] That's bullshit, they just filmed what they wanted to film and then threw all the supplies away.

[QUOTE=starpluck;22328573]That's bullshit, they just filmed what they wanted to film and then threw all the supplies away.[/QUOTE] Am I a psychic or what? COME ON PEOPLE

I think he was joking.

In all seriousness, it makes no mention about the other ridiculously blocked items - if they got sent.

wow the swedish port workers union has decided to go out in a blockade of all israeli ships and cargo to and from israel, according to TT.

"Israel transferred the humanitarian supplies aboard the ships to the Gaza Strip after inspecting the cargo. According to Channel 10, COGAT transferred most of the aid which had been on the ships, with the exception of pills whose expiry dates had passed." They've sent everything except for these pills.