Haha I'm a American and even I find this fucking retarded. Way to go Obama, I started out respecting you and at this point you've demolished all of it
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22330101]If you are so sure of these claim how about you quote a post I have made stating that.
Edit: Note that, if your quote isn't from Wikipedia, it can't be regarded as factual evidence.
/sarcasm.[/QUOTE]
[url=http://www.facepunch.com/showpost.php?p=22318520&postcount=254]One of your posts[/url]; the map that you found was mentioned earlier and it came from wikipedia.
Er, wait, what?
Hasn't it already been proven these attacks were the flotilla staff's fault? The videos show the commandos landing on the ships to search them, the flotilla crew refused and started beating the soldiers with metal rods and even tried to set one guy on fire, but ISRAEL is at fault?
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;22330383]Er, wait, what?
Hasn't it already been proven these attacks were the flotilla staff's fault? The videos show the commandos landing on the ships to search them, the flotilla crew refused and started beating the soldiers with metal rods and even tried to set one guy on fire, but ISRAEL is at fault?[/QUOTE]
Eyewitness accounts say the IDF fired first, and even if that turns out to be false the attacks were in international waters in defense of an illegal blockade.
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;22330383]Er, wait, what?
Hasn't it already been proven these attacks were the flotilla staff's fault? The videos show the commandos landing on the ships to search them, the flotilla crew refused and started beating the soldiers with metal rods and even tried to set one guy on fire, but ISRAEL is at fault?[/QUOTE]
Are you serious?
Have you read the thread at all?
...Wait, I think I recognize your name, nevermind.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;22330421]Eyewitness accounts say the IDF fired first, and even if that turns out to be false the attacks were in international waters in defense of an illegal blockade.[/QUOTE]
Israel was only checking the fleet for contraband. They didn't even try to block it.
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[QUOTE=Jugulum;22330434]Are you serious?
Have you read the thread at all?
...Wait, I think I recognize your name, nevermind.[/QUOTE]
Check out the live videos of this event smartass. They're in another thread.
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;22330450]Israel was only checking the fleet for contraband. They didn't even try to block it.
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Check out the live videos of this event smartass. They're in another thread.[/QUOTE]
So you haven't read the thread it seems.
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;22330450]Israel was only checking the fleet for contraband. They didn't even try to block it.
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Check out the live videos of this event smartass. They're in another thread.[/QUOTE]
please read the threads
all of them
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;22330450]Israel was only checking the fleet for contraband. They didn't even try to block it.
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Check out the live videos of this event smartass. They're in another thread.[/QUOTE]
Throw the [img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/rating/book_error.png[/img] at him
I really think the media blows a lot of this out of proportion
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;22330450]Israel was only checking the fleet for contraband. They didn't even try to block it.
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Check out the live videos of this event smartass. They're in another thread.[/QUOTE]
How about you don't believe everything that's thrown at you. You don't find it suspicious at all that we only get to see a minute of the footage? If they're gonna use those videos as any proof they should release the whole video, from the entire operation.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;22330276][url=http://www.facepunch.com/showpost.php?p=22318520&postcount=254]One of your posts[/url]; the map that you found was mentioned earlier and it came from wikipedia.[/QUOTE]
"The fact that the UN says Israel has attacked the flotilla in international waters, is sufficient evidence, no one is claiming otherwise.".
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How can you expect him to read like 30 pages worth of threads.
If you are sure your argument is true just prove it again, shouldn't be too hard.
Gmod you could also post the video as well, if you want to rely on it.
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;22330450]Israel was only checking the fleet for contraband. They didn't even try to block it.
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Check out the live videos of this event smartass. They're in another thread.[/QUOTE]
I hope you realize that the mission (as stated by Israel) was to capture the ships and take them to an Israeli port.
It's usually in bad taste to call someone a "smartass" if you know literally nothing about what you're talking about.
this was in international waters ? uh oh israel
o dear
[QUOTE=Anteep1;22331566]this was in international waters ? uh oh israel
o dear[/QUOTE]
I wonder... if Israel hadn't been such pre-mature attackers and did this on "their" waters, what would happen?
Nothing, people would still have bashed Israel saying stuff like "you attacked a Turkish ship this is a war crime!".
Also Turkey doesn't consider the waters around Gaza to be Israel's, yet Israel and the UN do, so it would also spur a conflict probably.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22331654]Nothing, people would still have bashed Israel saying stuff like "you attacked a Turkish ship this is a war crime!".
Also Turkey doesn't consider the waters around Gaza to be Israel's, yet Israel and the UN do, so it would also spur a conflict probably.[/QUOTE]
What bothers ME is that it happened on international waters. Even IF the flotilla would have been armed they would have had every right to defend itself.
It's legal to board a ship that is trying to run through a blockade.
It's a matter of wether the blockade is legal or not.
You know BurnEmDown a few days ago I thought you were a hardcore Israeli apologist but then CriticalThought came back and now you seem quite reasonable
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22331654]Nothing, people would still have bashed Israel saying stuff like "you attacked a Turkish ship this is a war crime!".
Also Turkey doesn't consider the waters around Gaza to be Israel's, yet Israel and the UN do, so it would also spur a conflict probably.[/QUOTE]
The UN doesn't acknowledge the blockade, so I think you meant to say Israel and US.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;22322745[B]]Yeah mate - Israel has setup gas chambers and is mass-murdering them, one by one.[/B]
But seriously, nations often investigate themselves. And they're more likely to be impartial than if they had an independent investigation with input from nations affected in the attack.[/QUOTE]
No, before 1941 the Jews were severly persecuted by being put into small Ghetto's, having their buisnesses being wrecked and forced emigration. Read up before you make silly points.
[QUOTE=Jugulum;22331795]The UN doesn't acknowledge the blockade, so I think you meant to say Israel and US.[/QUOTE]
The blockade and water definition are two separate issues.
[QUOTE=Viper01;22330602]I really think the media blows a lot of this out of proportion[/QUOTE]
[B][U]WARNING!!! SARCASM AHEAD!!![/U][/B]
9 people died transporting much need supplies to an impoverished nation
The media totally blew this out of proportion, I blame anti-semitism and mass hysteria.
[QUOTE=bravehat;22332041]9 people died transporting much need supplies to an impoverished nation
The media totally blew this out of proportion, I blame anti-semitism and mass hysteria.[/QUOTE]
how is it blown out of proportion? it's terrible
[QUOTE=bravehat;22332041]9 people died transporting much need supplies to an impoverished nation
The media totally blew this out of proportion, I blame anti-semitism and mass hysteria.[/QUOTE]
9 people died after commiting unprovoked aggression against Israeli troops. You're forgetting the flotilla didn't know they were even going to take the ships. I don't even think the Israelis were trying to take the ships.
They randomly started beating down Israeli troops with metal clubs.
OMFG THAT WAS SARCASM!!!
Seriously come on people!!!
Can someone kindly explain to me the current situation ?? who is at fault etc
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;22332061]9 people died after commiting unprovoked aggression against Israeli troops. You're forgetting the flotilla didn't know they were even going to take the ships. I don't even think the Israelis were trying to take the ships.
They randomly started beating down Israeli troops with metal clubs.[/QUOTE]
You act as if they were standing around and a mob of random activists started attacking them for no reason.
[img]http://i45.tinypic.com/9sz1xc.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=IStanI;22332175]You act as if they were standing around and a mob of random activists started attacking them for no reason.
Hopefully this will be the outcome.[/QUOTE]
Israel is still alive in this pic. :v:
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