CNN - Sexually explicit Japan manga evades new laws on child pornography
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[QUOTE=Zeke129;45147355]Any discussion about pedophilia on the internet will devolve into people arguing about how the true victims of child molesters are the pedos who don't molest children and have a bad name now
I don't really understand why attempting to justify pedophilia is the internet's favourite hobby but it is[/QUOTE]
Ban Lolicon.
It has drawings of fictional underage girls that the viewer can whack off to. Said viewer is therefore a brutal child molester!
Ban violent videogames.
The player can kill hundreds of fictional people in them. The player is therefore a brutal mass murderer!
I don't get the whole 'pedophiles need to seek help' argument. How can we help them? What can we do? They're not harming anybody, are we the thought police now?
[QUOTE=Zeke129;45147355]Any discussion about pedophilia on the internet will devolve into people arguing about how the true victims of child molesters are the pedos who don't molest children and have a bad name now
I don't really understand why attempting to justify pedophilia is the internet's favourite hobby but it is[/QUOTE]
Maybe if you actually read these sorts of threads and engaged in the debate rather just making pithy comments you would know how misguided your statements are.
Obviously actual abuse victims are victims of abuse, the fact that other people are wrongly blamed for this abuse is also a problem. You don’t have to pick one, they are both bad things. The distinction is that everyone already knows and agrees that child molestation is bad whereas the fact that pedophilia ≠ child molestation is less well known. Similarly the conflation of pedophilia with ephebophilia and hebephilia is similarly less well understood. These things are discussed because there is something to discuss, no one is going to argue that child rape is a good thing and therefore no one discusses it.
[QUOTE=Jookia;45147621]I don't get the whole 'pedophiles need to seek help' argument. How can we help them? What can we do? They're not harming anybody, are we the thought police now?[/QUOTE]
They need therapy so that they don't end up acting on their urges and attacking a child.
[QUOTE=st_nick5;45147665]They need therapy so that they don't end up acting on their urges and attacking a child.[/QUOTE]
Are you assuming that all pedophiles, or most pedophiles, are going to attack children? Because I don't think that's the case.
[QUOTE=Jookia;45147682]Are you assuming that all pedophiles, or most pedophiles, are going to attack children? Because I don't think that's the case.[/QUOTE]
That's not what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying, and what most other people in this thread are saying, is that they shouldn't be lumped into the same category as child molesters. If they feel they need help, they should be able to get it without being persecuted or locked up.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;45147076]Oh my fucking god
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After a quick read your novel is literally a fucking romance about a tentacle monster who apparently fucks an underage boy.
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[sp]actually it's about a mentally deranged college student who sees normal things as monstrous and repugnant and monstrous and repugnant things as attractive and alluring[/sp]
i mean take it as a romance if you want but i don't personally find misanthropy, isolation, murder, and cannibalism very romantic
[QUOTE=st_nick5;45147700]That's not what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying, and what most other people in this thread are saying, is that they shouldn't be lumped into the same category as child molesters. If they feel they need help, they should be able to get it without being persecuted or locked up.[/QUOTE]
Sure, if they feel they need help, yes. But I'm talking about posts like this:
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;45142627]It's the lesser of two evils I guess. They should still be seeking help on the side.[/QUOTE]
MaxOfS2D is suggesting that those looking at lolicon should be seeking help. Why?
[QUOTE=Jookia;45147816]Sure, if they feel they need help, yes. But I'm talking about posts like this:
MaxOfS2D is suggesting that those looking at lolicon should be seeking help. Why?[/QUOTE]
Ask him. Or better yet, why not take a few minutes to go back and read through the whole thread from the beginning? You'll find that everything has been discussed already. The thread's basically going in circles now.
[QUOTE=Chldnr;45146599][URL="http://facepunch.com/member.php?u=185135"]http://facepunch.com/member.php?u=185135[/URL] He likes his lolis with gas masks.
[URL="http://steamcommunity.com/id/Rawr0rawR/"]http://steamcommunity.com/id/Rawr0rawR/[/URL] This kid also loves lolis.[/QUOTE]
And this one [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/PJuChKH.png[/IMG]
Zing.
[QUOTE=Jookia;45147816]Sure, if they feel they need help, yes. But I'm talking about posts like this:
MaxOfS2D is suggesting that those looking at lolicon should be seeking help. Why?[/QUOTE]
The recurring debate in this thread seems to be pedophiles aren't bad if they're not molesting children because they're just folks that can't control what they like. Why not seek help to control those urges?
But that's assuming that we [I]need[/I] help controlling the "urges".
Personally, I don't get "urges".
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It's just the difference between saying that they [I]should[/I] seek help - which implies that they need to get cured or that without help they will inevitably turn bad - and saying that they [I]should be able to[/I] seek help if they want and feel like they need it.
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;45146151]anyways most loli shit just looks like mini flatchested anime girls, with all the attributes of an adult except height[/QUOTE]
isn't there shortstacks too? the ones that are actual adults but are tiny as shit.
[QUOTE=SenhorCreeper;45147975]isn't there shortstacks too? the ones that are actual adults but are tiny as shit.[/QUOTE]
Yep, and they also fold into the "lolicon" definition.
[QUOTE=Sherow_Xx;45147965]But that's assuming that we [I]need[/I] help controlling the "urges".
Personally, I don't get "urges".
[editline]18th June 2014[/editline]
It's just the difference between saying that they [I]should[/I] seek help - which implies that they need to get cured or that without help they will inevitably turn bad - and saying that they [I]should be able to[/I] seek help if they want and feel like they need it.[/QUOTE]
Basically this.
[QUOTE=Taggart;45147998]Yep, and they also fold into the "lolicon" definition.[/QUOTE]
Not really, what you're thinking here is "lolicon oppai", were talking about girls that is actually above age, but they're so god damn tiny, I think midna would fall in this category, and none make her as a "loli" and more as a "Shortstack".
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;45142627]It's the lesser of two evils I guess. They should still be seeking help on the side.[/QUOTE]
that's like saying people who enjoy violent video games should seek help lol
[QUOTE=SenhorCreeper;45148041]Not really, what you're thinking here is "lolicon oppai", were talking about girls that is actually above age, but they're so god damn tiny, I think midna would fall in this category, and none make her as a "loli" and more as a "Shortstack".[/QUOTE]
Oh well she falls more into the realm of chibi/deformed than either pettanko (flat chested) or lolicon (underage girls, or characters who appear physically underage but aren't). Shortstack probably is an applicable descriptor, in that case.
shortstacks are dwarves with the right assets
[QUOTE=pgr2gamer;45147875]And this one [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/PJuChKH.png[/IMG]
Zing.[/QUOTE]
What of it? He fucks lolis.
This is gross
[img]http://i.imgur.com/JVdf58V.png[/img]
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