CNN - Sexually explicit Japan manga evades new laws on child pornography
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[QUOTE=ironman17;45142383]Exactly. Unless it was traced or inspired by actual child abuse, it's pretty much green to go. It's still kinda dodgy in terms of morality, but it doesn't really hurt anyone other than oversensitive grognards who take things too seriously, so it's pretty much harmless.
Amen to that, it's kind of an ingenious form of medication, and it'd probably be healthier than injecting yourself with a dose of "Nomolestol" to suppress the urges biochemically. It'd probably be cheaper too, since specialised pharmaceuticals can be expensive.[/QUOTE]
It's still fucking disgusting, if not ban cp then they need to go trough rehab.
People that like Lolicon are disgusting and a disgrace to our country.
Child beauty pageants? OK.
Emma Watson being discussed sexually before she was 18? Acceptable.
'Barely legal' girls in school outfits sucking lolipops? Sure why not.
But oh no it's a FUCKING DRAWING? That shit is fucking destroying our nation!!
What if it keeps Pedo's off the street?
[QUOTE=ironman17;45142383]Exactly. Unless it was traced or inspired by actual child abuse, it's pretty much green to go. [B]It's still kinda dodgy in terms of morality[/B], but it doesn't really hurt anyone other than oversensitive grognards who take things too seriously, so it's pretty much harmless.[/QUOTE]
If you're taking that into account there is WAY worse shit you can do than this. There is no shortage of depraved hentai, or even real porn for that matter.
I don't even think guro is banned.
Christ, if FP had a rule to ban images like this, 90% of FT / "What turns you on the most" would be gone.
[QUOTE=DrDevil;45142407]What is wrong with you? Do you not know sarcasm, especially with the rolleyes right fucking next to it?
This blind max hate is getting ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
Don't you think sarcasm is a bit hard to detect over the internet, looking at text? It doesn't matter what smiley face is after it.
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;45142418]Child beauty pageants? OK.
Emma Watson being discussed sexually before she was 18? Acceptable.
'Barely legal' girls in school outfits sucking lolipops? Sure why not.
But oh no it's a FUCKING DRAWING? That shit is fucking destroying our nation!![/QUOTE]
None of those things are viewed as perfectly acceptable except by a small fringe of society...
Especially child beauty pageants.
[QUOTE=Sympathy;45142417]It's still fucking disgusting, if not ban cp then they need to go trough rehab.
People that like Lolicon are disgusting and a disgrace to our country.[/QUOTE]
Ew man you like 70 year old granny porn? Dude you need rehab.
Seriously, we have so many problems with actual child abuse that creating more reasons to give actual child abusers an excuse is a goddamn joke.
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;45142418]Child beauty pageants? OK.
Emma Watson being discussed sexually before she was 18? Acceptable.
'Barely legal' girls in school outfits sucking lolipops? Sure why not.
But oh no it's a FUCKING DRAWING? That shit is fucking destroying our nation!![/QUOTE]
Also generational fear of the Japanese.
In the 40's it was Imperialism beating our Imperialism. In the 70s it was passing economically.
Now its fucking waifus.
[QUOTE=outlawpickle;45142434]None of those things are viewed as perfectly acceptable except by a small fringe of society...
Especially child beauty pageants.[/QUOTE]
The Emma Watson thing was rampant in the British media for years.
The schoolgirl outfit thing is a MAJOR industry money maker.
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;45142418]Child beauty pageants? OK.
Emma Watson being discussed sexually before she was 18? Acceptable.
'Barely legal' girls in school outfits sucking lolipops? Sure why not.
But oh no it's a FUCKING DRAWING? That shit is fucking destroying our nation!![/QUOTE]
to be fair i'm pretty certain that more or less everyone hates child beauty pageants
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;45142425]If you're taking that into account there is WAY worse shit you can do than this. There is no shortage of depraved hentai, or even real porn for that matter.
I don't even think guro is banned.[/QUOTE]
That's why I said [U]kinda[/U] dodgy, since there's crap out there that makes lolicon and shotacon look like your average chapter of The Canterbury Tales. I'd rather see someone stick their bum out of a window than see someone fucking a dead horse, that much I'll say.
[QUOTE=Cone;45142453]to be fair i'm pretty certain that more or less everyone hates child beauty pageants[/QUOTE]
Everyone on facepunch does, sure. But they're still popular enough.
This is legal in Denmark. We have many bans in Denmark, but when it comes to alcohol and sex almost everything is legal. Even animal sex is legal, actual cp is illegal ofcause.
[QUOTE=Sympathy;45142279]They censored it because it's cp, doesn't matter if its drawn or not.
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Drawings aren't children, they're drawings. They're not alive. Literally no-one has been hurt. Saying that mere drawings should be made illegal is basically advocating thought crime.
[QUOTE=Purple Robot;45142433]Don't you think sarcasm is a bit hard to detect over the internet, looking at text? It doesn't matter what smiley face is after it.[/QUOTE]
We don't have facial expressions, that's why we have emoticons. The 'smiley face' after a sentence with rolling eyes means that the sentence was sarcastic. What's not to get?
[QUOTE=maxumym;45142356]Moreover, it (potentially) lowers the amount of child abuse because it gives pedophiles a way to sublimate.[/QUOTE]
There is no way of knowing for sure is there? Banning it could either reduce or increase child abuse. Finding that out would require extremely inappropriate research on a large scale.
On one hand it could give them a way to sublimate like you say, but on the other hand maybe having access to it results in more pedophiles.
Lolicon shouldn't be banned, but affection towards sexualized 2D underage girls is nothing to be proud of. Lolicon in general is pretty creepy, and people who openly brag about it is creepy.
But I would prefer people sticking to lolicon rather than the real thing, fo' sho'
[QUOTE=st_nick5;45142481]Drawings aren't children, they're drawings. They're not alive. Literally no-one has been hurt. Saying that mere drawings should be made illegal is basically advocating thought crime.[/QUOTE]
Honestly. Better Drawings and having those with the fucking disorder keep to themselves than shutting them out of every option and making them go after and hunt down children.
You know, like they did before the internet and awareness.
What is disgusting is the fact that this abomination airs on national television.
I understand that banning cp would damage children, but the fact that this shit is accepted as normal is unacceptable, it's disgusting and it reinforces the acceptance of soon-to be pedophiles.
A better alternative is getting rehab to these people.
[QUOTE=st_nick5;45142481]Drawings aren't children, they're drawings. They're not alive. Literally no-one has been hurt. Saying that mere drawings should be made illegal is basically advocating thought crime.[/QUOTE]
Yeah this should be legal in every country that have freedom of expression in their constitution.
[QUOTE=Sympathy;45142497]What is disgusting is the fact that this abomination airs on national television.
I understand that banning cp would damage children, but the fact that this shit is accepted as normal is unacceptable, it's disgusting and it reinforces the acceptance of soon-to pedophiles.
A better alternative is getting rehab to these people.[/QUOTE]
You don't solve everything by banning it. If that worked most of the world would be a crime/drug free utopia.
[QUOTE=Sympathy;45142497]What is disgusting is the fact that this abomination airs on national television.
I understand that banning cp would damage children, but the fact that this shit is accepted as normal is unacceptable, it's disgusting and it reinforces the acceptance of soon-to pedophiles.
A better alternative is getting rehab to these people.[/QUOTE]
So who made an account using a proxy?
[QUOTE=Limed00d;45142488]Lolicon shouldn't be banned, but affection towards sexualized 2D underage girls is nothing to be proud of. Lolicon in general is pretty creepy, and people who openly brag about it gives me an impression of pedophilia.[/QUOTE]
When I was in high school there was a kid you openly had a thing for underage furry boys. Everyone just kinda looked the other way and ignored him.
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;45142418]Child beauty pageants? OK.
Emma Watson being discussed sexually before she was 18? Acceptable.
'Barely legal' girls in school outfits sucking lolipops? Sure why not.
But oh no it's a FUCKING DRAWING? That shit is fucking destroying our nation!![/QUOTE]
It's probably because manga artists can't argue back against this shit and don't even give a shit anyway.
Easy targets
[QUOTE=reevezy67;45142484]
On one hand it could give them a way to sublimate like you say, but on the other hand maybe having access to it results in more pedophiles.[/QUOTE]
Isn't that an argument similar to "violent videogames cause violence"? Why is there no research done on this subject? Does making lolis legal increase or decrease child abuse crimes?
[QUOTE=Cone;45142453]to be fair i'm pretty certain that more or less everyone hates child beauty pageants[/QUOTE]
Relevant.
[video=youtube;oRSUS4WZO5Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRSUS4WZO5Q&feature=kp[/video]
[QUOTE=itisjuly;45142521]Isn't that an argument similar to "violent videogames cause violence"? Why is there no research done on this subject? Does making lolis legal increase or decrease child abuse crimes?[/QUOTE]
I seem to remember studies were done that found that increased accessibility to porn actually decreased the number of sexual assaults.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;45142521]Isn't that an argument similar to "violent videogames cause violence"? Why is there no research done on this subject? Does making lolis legal increase or decrease child abuse crimes?[/QUOTE]
I don't think violence in video games and sexual representations of children are the same thing. People don't look up sexually explicit loli stuff for the story or gameplay.
[QUOTE=st_nick5;45142549]I seem to remember studies were done that found that increased accessibility to porn actually decreased the number of sexual assaults.[/QUOTE]
Reminds me of this
[img]http://blogs-images.forbes.com/erikkain/files/2012/12/videogameviolencechart.jpg[/img]
[editline]18th June 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=reevezy67;45142551]I don't think violence in video games and sexual representations of children are the same thing. People don't look up sexually explicit loli stuff for the story or gameplay.[/QUOTE]
I wonder why most games are 80+% killing stuff, 20% other things.
oh no the poor cartoon characters [I]will nobody think about their [B]feelings[/B][/I]
this shit is bananas, law enforcement worldwide should deal with actual pedophiles, not this petty shit
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