• CNN - Sexually explicit Japan manga evades new laws on child pornography
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[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;45145529]hey if we're banning sexual content in drawings involving fictional children I hope we're also banning it in books too [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Boy_and_His_Dog[/url] or is there a specific line for just how sexual the content has to be to be considered child porn[/QUOTE] Kinda different because the sex in the novel isn't the feature of the book. It's like saying "we should ban kitchen knives because they can kill, just like swords"
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;45145620]Kinda different because the sex in the novel isn't the feature of the book. It's like saying "we should ban kitchen knives because they can kill, just like swords"[/QUOTE] So it's okay to have sexually explicit content featuring children so long as it isn't the advertised "feature" of the material? Swords aren't banned for just that reason, actually.
We're still arguing about banning a certain arrangement of lines?
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;45145656]So it's okay to have sexually explicit content featuring children so long as it isn't the advertised "feature" of the material? Swords aren't banned for just that reason, actually.[/QUOTE] What I really meant is the purpose. For example, some medical books that have a few naked children on are not banned because it's used for science. Shit like in the OP is intended for stimulation.
You don't get to pick and choose what material to ban based on whether it offends your tastes or not.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;45145707]What I really meant is the purpose. For example, some medical books that have a few naked children on are not banned because it's used for science. Shit like in the OP is intended for stimulation.[/QUOTE] okay, so something like this is okay [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saya_no_Uta[/url] I mean it has sexually explicit content, but the "purpose" is to invoke disgust and revulsion, as it's a horror story
Does this mean that thoroughly enjoying and appreciating my Bad Dragon™ Doberman dog dick replica is going to make me fuck dogs/somehow make me in to bestiality? [editline]18th June 2014[/editline] Shit, lock me up ASAP. There's no stopping me, soon I'll be fucking sharks and dragons as well as dogs.
Honestly hentai in general is not my thing but I don't see lolicon as being offensive and I don't see a need to ban it. Why? I'd rather have pedophiles getting off on lolicon than actually going out and abuse real children, even some people who aren't pedophiles get off on lolicon because their tastes are on women with "child-like" attributes, hell there is a whole category of porn called "petite" for a reason. And yeah, lolicon could also be a trigger for some fucktard to actually act on it as well, but so is everything else a trigger for other crimes, should we ban all media?
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;45145689]We're still arguing about banning a certain arrangement of lines?[/QUOTE] A ban, while it morally makes sense, is hard to define for such a subjective thing as this. This is not a black and white scenario where it's easy to draw the line between what would and would not be considered "child porn". But yes people will obviously argue it because many feel disgusted about it being a thing while others would very much like more of it :v: [editline]18th June 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=DeeCeeTeeBee;45145894]Does this mean that thoroughly enjoying and appreciating my Bad Dragon™ Doberman dog dick replica is going to make me fuck dogs/somehow make me in to bestiality?[/QUOTE] Thank you for sharing your interesting bedroom activities with us, we very much appreciate it.
[QUOTE=Zezibesh;45144885]so what if it's child porn in your book, no one is still being hurt[/QUOTE] Well it's a CP imo like for an example: children doing stuff (if you know what I mean) with other children or an adult in a non-violent way if you know what I'm saying. And what I mean by an non-violent way, I mean just ordinarily sex without forced into sex by anyone. So yeah that's all I have to say for now. Also, sorry for the late replay by the way. [QUOTE=st_nick5;45145471]Work on your grammar as well.[/QUOTE] Actually you're not the first person to say that. But yeah I'll fix my grammar up, sorry about that.
My country doesn't give a fuck about it, and I don't either, if you're not hurting anyone why should I try and stop you. [QUOTE=Rahkshi lord;45144189]Well damn you sure showed me this anime girl who looks nothing like a real child in any way sure is creepy I guess I'll seek help now.[/QUOTE] Also your waifu has an annoying ass laugh.
anyways most loli shit just looks like mini flatchested anime girls, with all the attributes of an adult except height
[QUOTE=varg666;45146078]Well it's a CP imo like for an example: children doing stuff (if you know what I mean) with other children or an adult in a non-violent way if you know what I'm saying. And what I mean by an non-violent way, I mean just ordinarily sex without forced into sex by anyone. So yeah that's all I have to say for now.[/QUOTE] That's fine but you're purposefully ignoring the huge, all-changing difference between child porn and lolicon: Child porn includes real children that were abused for real, while lolicon does not. This may not mean anything to you, but it should.
What I really hate is people who call themselves lolicons but really aren't like they use it as a method of trying to look [I]cool[/I] but really it's stuff like this [url]http://i.imgur.com/EuOevih.jpg[/url] [B]NSFW NSFW[/B] No I'm not a lolicon and don't ask where I got that
[QUOTE=paul simon;45146040]A ban, while it morally makes sense, is hard to define for such a subjective thing as this. This is not a black and white scenario where it's easy to draw the line between what would and would not be considered "child porn". [/QUOTE] That's just making needlessly complicated. Instead of worrying about the subjective impressions any particular material leaves on viewers or whether x% of the population would consider the material "pornographic", just follow this handy guide: Were real children involved in the production of the material? Yes -> Child abuse; illegal. No -> No reason to care. There's so much sick shit floating around on the internet (and published physically) yet we somehow worry about cartoons?
[QUOTE=pgr2gamer;45146373]What I really hate is people who call themselves lolicons but really aren't like they use it as a method of trying to look [I]cool[/I] but really it's stuff like this [url]http://i.imgur.com/EuOevih.jpg[/url] [B]NSFW NSFW[/B] No I'm not a lolicon and don't ask where I got that[/QUOTE] toddlercons creep me out infinitely more than lolicons ever will
[QUOTE=pgr2gamer;45146373]What I really hate is people who call themselves lolicons but really aren't like they use it as a method of trying to look [I]cool[/I] but really it's stuff like this [url]http://i.imgur.com/EuOevih.jpg[/url] [B]NSFW NSFW[/B] No I'm not a lolicon and don't ask where I got that[/QUOTE] This Picture is trash, I like my lolis with some breast.
[QUOTE=varg666;45146078]Well it's a CP imo like for an example: children doing stuff (if you know what I mean) with other children or an adult in a non-violent way if you know what I'm saying. And what I mean by an non-violent way, I mean just ordinarily sex without forced into sex by anyone. So yeah that's all I have to say for now.[/QUOTE] I agree that both are technically child porn. Lolicon features children, often engaging in lewd or lascivious acts with other people. Child porn probably features the same. However I think it's important to differentiate between the two because the creation and distribution of one is malicious and the creation and distribution of the other is benign at worst, on top of one being drawn/rendered and the other being recorded from events that have occurred in reality. [editline]18th June 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Chldnr;45146447]This Picture is trash, I like my lolis with some breast.[/QUOTE] Oppai piggu go homu.
[QUOTE=pgr2gamer;45146373]What I really hate is people who call themselves lolicons but really aren't like they use it as a method of trying to look [I]cool[/I] but really it's stuff like this [url]http://i.imgur.com/EuOevih.jpg[/url] [B]NSFW NSFW[/B] No I'm not a lolicon and don't ask where I got that[/QUOTE] who says they're a lolicon to be "cool", seriously.
Disgusting. I agree. Ban it.
[QUOTE=Rahkshi lord;45146472]who says they're a lolicon to be "cool", seriously.[/QUOTE] This kid right here [url]http://steamcommunity.com/id/JaNaaaaayyyyyyyy[/url] not sure when he privated his profile but ok
[QUOTE=Sherow_Xx;45146179]-snip-[/QUOTE] Can I ask you this question, regards to the quote you made? This one I mean: [QUOTE=Sherow_Xx;45143376]I'd say pedophilia is a sexual preference that can't be changed.[/QUOTE] How many people in the western world will support paedophilia as a Sexual orientation anyway? Because if paedophilia gets legalised there will be a shit storm, unlike gay marriage I don't have any problem with gay marriage anyway.
[QUOTE=varg666;45146563]Can I ask you this question, regards to the quote you made? This one I mean: How many people in the western world will support paedophilia as a Sexual orientation anyway? Because if paedophilia gets legalised there will be a shit storm, unlike gay marriage I don't have any problem with gay marriage anyway.[/QUOTE] Pedophilia isn't an illegal act, it is by definition a sexual orientation based on the attraction to pre-pubescent children. You are describing it as if it is Child Molestation (it isn't). Hint: Not all pedophiles are child molesters. Not all child molesters are pedophiles.
[QUOTE=pgr2gamer;45146373]What I really hate is people who call themselves lolicons but really aren't[/QUOTE] [URL="http://facepunch.com/member.php?u=185135"]http://facepunch.com/member.php?u=185135[/URL] He likes his lolis with gas masks. [URL="http://steamcommunity.com/id/Rawr0rawR/"]http://steamcommunity.com/id/Rawr0rawR/[/URL] This kid also loves lolis.
[QUOTE=pgr2gamer;45146373]What I really hate is people who call themselves lolicons but really aren't like they use it as a method of trying to look [I]cool[/I] but really it's stuff like this [why] [B]NSFW NSFW[/B] No I'm not a lolicon and don't ask where I got that[/QUOTE] well this thread just got weird
[QUOTE=varg666;45146563]How many people in the western world will support paedophilia as a Sexual orientation anyway? Because if paedophilia gets legalised there will be a shit storm, unlike gay marriage I don't have any problem with gay marriage anyway.[/QUOTE] Not many, that's why I said it doesn't mean we have to accept everything that relates to pedophilia, but that we have to take a step back and start thinking about it rationally. Currently people go banana sandwich if children see nudity, they can't know anything about sex because it's like the worst thing conceivable or something, and lolicon is really the only thing that makes people support the banning of drawings. I don't think I want to go into discussing all the other aspects of pedophilia and what I think about those, but in this case, we're only talking about lolicon. The mass hysteria makes people support banning drawings. That's what I mean that people need to chill. I do consider pedophilia a sexual orientation but that doesn't mean acting on it should be legalized.
[QUOTE=pgr2gamer;45146373]What I really hate is people who call themselves lolicons but really aren't like they use it as a method of trying to look [I]cool[/I] but really it's stuff like this Why [B]NSFW NSFW[/B] No I'm not a lolicon and don't ask where I got that[/QUOTE] This is fucking toddlercon. There's a major difference here.
[QUOTE=Taggart;45146581]Pedophilia isn't an illegal act, it is by definition a sexual orientation based on the attraction to pre-pubescent children. You are describing it as if it is Child Molestation (it isn't). Hint: Not all pedophiles are child molesters. Not all child molesters are pedophiles.[/QUOTE] I'd watch out, saying that got me my title.
[QUOTE=Riutet;45146453] Oppai piggu go homu.[/QUOTE] Go homo or go homu.
[QUOTE=Taggart;45144975]If you want to get real technical, a whole lot of Lolicon has nothing to do with kids or inappropriate stuff, because Lolicon covers both "Lolicon", (actual) little girls typically getting into taboo relationships with teachers/brothers/fathers/sweaty old men or each other, [B]and "Lolicon", characters who appear petite or underaged but typically actually aren't.[/B][/QUOTE] In regards to this, there is an anime I know where this is basically the main joke of the show, the other joke is that her class is filled with eccentric students. It's called Doki Doki School Hours and it centers around a 27 year old woman who looks like a grade schooler and teaches junior-high.
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