College Students Mistakenly Believe They're Ready for the Workplace in a survey
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[QUOTE=Mr. Bleak;42693213]I was initially going to get a degree in Business until I realized I wasn't that interested in most of the prospective [B]career choices that a person with a bachelors in general administration have[/B] (such as retail store management)
Now, I'm doing Gen Ed for a year or two before moving to a Uni to [B]major in Psychology.[/B] I know I could make it in the "real world" with a "real job" right now, but I want to do something I'm interested in and have an edge in. Plus, STEM fields seem more fit for someone like me who doesn't have much of an interest or advantage in physical labor.[/QUOTE]
The way you worded it makes it seem like you're just going for a bachelors in Psychology. If you are, trust me, you're going to have a [I]really[/I] hard time finding a job without going to med school or grad school.
[QUOTE=ScratchNsniff;42698459]Didn't go to college or Uni, now I run my own business. It's tough making so much cash and working my own hours guys.[/QUOTE]
Nobody is saying that everyone needs to attend college, just that some people do.
Yea some people I know think they'll be set if they just get the degree but really finding the connections and doing extra stuff outside the classroom is half the battle, that's like how every other renouned scientist got to where they are
Like the couple of guys at Sainsburys finished their psychology (I think) degrees a couple of years ago but they're still working there
A recent pow-wow among the higher education authorities as early as a few months ago down in India says quite clearly, that the average Indian graduate has literally none of the required skills in terms of employability. One of the reasons for this as stated, was that secondary school education mostly amounted to having students memorize the books word for word and then regurgitate the same in examinations, with very little emphasis on critical thinking or extra-curricular activities. We're in a vicious circle of the same since most students require very high marks to get a seat in good colleges, since competition is so high (good luck getting into a college of your choice if you didn't get anywhere within the 90th percentile, much less our equivalents of Harvard and Yale.) And if you want to go to med school and don't have anywhere within the 98th percentile, forget it! The only way you'll get in is if you buy your way in since they allow most colleges to auction off seats.
This gets compounded by the ridiculous method of paper correction they use, and the utter carelessness of the clowns who correct most of them. Case in point - one fellow wrote the examinations very well in his own words, but when the results were published, he'd failed in several papers. He applied for re-evaluation, and then placed third in his school and 16th in the state once this was done. The worst part is that he was so depressed over what happened that he hung himself. I rest my case.
Every job has its requirements and peculiarities that people have to understand. Not only do you need a lot of practical exposure, your fundamentals have to be sound as well. For instance an aspiring lawyer has to not only demonstrate their knowledge of the code legal by passing the entrance examination in the bar, the only way their careers will progress is if they represent as many people as they can manage with the skills at their disposal. A fledgling doctor has to study hard for four years before they write an exam to determine their worth in going on. If they pass they work as interns for a full year, and depending on how they did during that time, they pass into the world as doctors, or continue their internship for a certain period until they are considered worthy. A very few, by means of inability or utter incompetence, may find that the profession is not for them at this stage by the simple expedience of being sacked from the residency program and being subsequently expelled from the college. Specialization is its own realm, this being a true apprenticeship to the elderly physicians who serve as your masters during the specialization courses. But being a student you are subject to the same rules as you were in your undergrad days.
In any case, it's up to the individual to decide their own paths in life. We all have to make our choices one day, or move in the direction allotted us in life by those who provide for us. It would be better if people just reconciled themselves to the fact that there's always somebody above them who could be better suited for a job or a higher position than you are. Nobody's entitled to be jelly of someone with more talent just because they got passed over. Deal with it.
[QUOTE=G71tc4;42695162]gpa counts for scholarships ill tell you that in a fuckin heartbeat[/QUOTE]
Of course but for the vast majority of people who can't get a scholorship anyways its useful only in a "pass the class to get a degree" sense and "try not to keep it so abysmal"
Many GPA-dependant scholorships are also mostly useful if you are a full time student who does nothing else but school. I had an ex shift manager at my job who pretty much had to just drop her scholorship because it required a GPA level that involved pretty much 100% focusing on school and not working to pay the bills and such as she payed through college.
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;42688836]tbh this sounds cunty, but this is kind of amusing to me since a lot of the dudes and dudettes going to uni in my social circle have a very toffee nosed attitude about it, because basically they are still living like they are in high school - i.e no real risk (or sense of gain for that matter) financially, their parents still pay for them whenever they need it, they spend more time focusing on their social lives than they do their education, all while having this facile attitude that they will be guaranteed a "great" job once they leave uni because of their degrees (if they complete them ofc)
Meanwhile good friend of mine they gave shit about leaving school early is a diesel fitter and is laughing all the way to the bank because at 21 he's earning the kind of money they probably won't be earning for 5+ years assuming they do get good jobs out of it.
I knew i should've listened to that old dude saying get a trade because they are going to be in demand in the future.[/QUOTE]
The trades are hugely in demand all over the world right now. Skilled technicians and skilled worker pay rates are soaring simply because they are not enough of them. Some companies will even pay for your technical schooling
but nooooo.
High Schools keep saying 4 YEAR COLLEGE IS THE ONLY WAY FOR EVERYONE TO GO EVER. Some may talk about other programs, but they always give them less attention than 4 year colleges.
Also it really is foolish for anyone to think that getting a job will be easy after graduation. I want to be an Aeronautics and Astronautics engineer, and I am already networking with people I know and friends of friends to find internships. Ask most kids in high school about networking or internships now and they'll give you a look like "wut?"
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not saying 4 colleges are bad its just that in the US it seems most HS's focus solely on the benefits of them, not other programs (like techincal schools, art schools, or the military), in pursuing your life passion
I'm currently in TAFE in Australia, I don't know how to compare it to university though it is very full on, doing a diploma of software development. Everyday we are programming or learning something new and I do enjoy it and since I was 16 at the age of enrollment it was only like $700. Highly suggest it if high school isn't working for you(was too slow paced for me).
[QUOTE=ridinmybike;42691830]College is pointless, just another way to let idiots learn nothing and pay everything for the useless knowledge they will get.[/QUOTE]
Good luck becoming a researcher in pretty much any area of science without a degree.
Not everyone chooses a career path that is hands on in which a portfolio would do just fine at getting you a job, y'know.
College altogether has this weird idea that it should suck your life away.
And there is a massive disconnect between students and professors. I need to ask my advisor for the book, but it was massive study which showed that most students found professors to be aloof and boring and professors expected 3 times the amount of work students were willing to give.
[QUOTE=paindoc;42706655]The trades are hugely in demand all over the world right now. Skilled technicians and skilled worker pay rates are soaring simply because they are not enough of them. Some companies will even pay for your technical schooling
but nooooo.
High Schools keep saying 4 YEAR COLLEGE IS THE ONLY WAY FOR EVERYONE TO GO EVER. Some may talk about other programs, but they always give them less attention than 4 year colleges.
Also it really is foolish for anyone to think that getting a job will be easy after graduation. I want to be an Aeronautics and Astronautics engineer, and I am already networking with people I know and friends of friends to find internships. Ask most kids in high school about networking or internships now and they'll give you a look like "wut?"
[editline]30th October 2013[/editline]
not saying 4 colleges are bad its just that in the US it seems most HS's focus solely on the benefits of them, not other programs (like techincal schools, art schools, or the military), in pursuing your life passion[/QUOTE]
Which companies will pay for my trade/technical schooling? I'll apply for that shit.
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