Anthony Hervey, African-American Confederate Flag Supporter has been Killed

[AlbertWesker]

Ok I know you guys think the guy posting about driving around with two guns is being a bit ridiculous, but the amount of ignorance I'm seeing in response to that one post is fucking amazing.

[QUOTE=HawkeyeTy;48256482]Because you're afraid of being murdered for political reasons?[/QUOTE]

Isn't that pretty much what this article was implying happened to Anthony? People have been attacked for far less.

[QUOTE=valkery;48256640]One's a water pistol and the other's a potato gun I assume?
Having two firearms in your car is redundant, unless you're packing for a passenger. Which is then mathematically sound, but [U]still paranoid as fuck[/U].[/QUOTE]

Because taking precautions to exercise your right to self defense automatically means you are paranoid? If Anthony had a firearm or two in his possession and had gotten the chance to defend himself in this situation, would you think he was paranoid?

[QUOTE=Velocet;48257907]And then you shoot the gun and it ignites the gas.[/QUOTE]
That's not how it works, unless he's loading incendiary tipped rounds. (Highly unlikely)

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;48258081]So, somebody is actively trying to force you out of the road and what you do is that you let go of the steering wheel with one arm to grab a gun and start shooting at them? That doesn't sound as a very effective way of protecting your life.[/QUOTE]

Because not having any means of self-defense really improved his odds of survival there. If you were in a situation like this where someone is trying to cause you severe bodily harm or death, would you rather have a gun in your hand, or a phone like victims had here? Also there was a passenger traveling with him in the vehicle, so it's possible that Anthony could direct the passenger to get the gun.

Don't get me wrong, a firearm is usually one of the worst things to attempt solving a problem with. However, as tools they give people more options for survival/defense and a far greater chance of overpowering a violent aggressor if escape is not a viable option.

TL;DR, Owning a firearm for self-defense =/= being a paranoid lunatic, so stop being judgmental pricks about people who choose to own guns. It's offensive and makes you look like an idiot to any respectable person who owns a firearm.

[JumpinJackFlash]

[QUOTE=Govna;48260507]How do you not understand what the function of measuring intention is when examining crimes? This is an actual legal concept, you know;[/QUOTE]

BOHOHOHO STOP RIGHT THERE BUDDY

No, you can't go "ya well you choose to believe stuff and you choose your religion" and then try to hide behind legal code, because I'm going to have to stop your hypocrisy train right there. In the United States your political beliefs, your religious beliefs, what you feel to be right and wrong are just as important as your skin color and all those things "you can't change" in the eyes of the law. I can't fire a Republican any more than I can fire an Asian dude, or a woman, or somebody who believe they're a lesbian moose trapped in a human's body.

[QUOTE=Govna;48260507]No, it's not the same to kill a person for their political beliefs as it is to kill them for their race; different intentions, different circumstances-- which means different levels of severity. They're both not equally just as bad; there's times where political violence is sensible, but violence against a person just because you don't like their looks makes no sense ever.[/QUOTE]

Persecution is persecution, if you want to get specific there's different terms for the different forms. Killing people for their beliefs (no matter how silly) is absolutely just as bad as killing people for racial reasons, both are equally 100% murder. You can argue that "political violence is sensible" all you want but at the end of the day killing political killing is [i]cold murder[/i] any way you cut it. Until they do something that is actually wrong you are no better than Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, or a whole mess of tyrannical cunts who killed innocent people just because they disagreed.

[Zeke129]

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;48258463]
Well there were only 2 people, one's dead, and the one that survived says they were chased down and run off the road. Sounds like someone was trying to murder them.[/QUOTE]

[url=http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/confederate-flag-furor/outspoken-black-confederate-flag-supporter-anthony-hervey-dies-traffic-accident-n395476]He didn't say that.[/url]

[quote]he vehicle's owner and passenger in the car, Arlene Barnum, told The Associated Press on Monday that Hervey swerved and crashed after another vehicle carrying four or five young black men pulled up alongside them, yelling and looking angry. Barnum, of Stuart, Oklahoma, said Hervey yelled something back at the other vehicle before losing control and crashing.

"It spun like crazy and we flipped, flipped, flipped. It was awful," she said.[/quote]

He got into a verbal argument while driving and lost control of the vehicle

[Mr. Someguy]

[QUOTE=Zeke129;48266368]He got into a verbal argument while driving and lost control of the vehicle[/QUOTE]

She either changed her story, the original article posted false information, or that article isn't reporting the whole story. Either way, it doesn't add up, there's too many pieces missing.

[quote=OP's Article]Also in the car at the time of the wreck was Arlene Barnum, who survived with minor injuries, and says the wreck was caused by a silver car which chased them before swerving to the passenger side and forcing them off the road.[/quote]

[Jame's]

Surprised we haven't seen more of this. If you watch some of the videos in relation to the confederate flag controversy the Anti Flag group are a savage mob.

[Deunan]

[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;48260380]You have no sense of a rational argument. Murder is murder, how are you that fucking blind.

[editline]21st July 2015[/editline]

You're trying to think too hard into something.[/QUOTE]

I'd like to point out that murder is actually not murder.
Imagine somenoe who was abused for years and then one day decided to return the favour to the former abuser
Vs someone who kills for the kick of it.

There's a reason why murder, like most crimes, has a variable sentence. It's not x punishment for murder, but this range of possible punishments for the crime.