Germany considers reissuing trpewriters after American spying scandal - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Cabbage;45438598]Does anyone know what the USA is actually so afraid of? I think their continuing excuse of 'turrist' is getting kind of stale seeing as there hasn't really been a legitimate terrorist threat to the US since 9/11[/QUOTE] B-b-but turrists

[QUOTE=Cabbage;45438598]Does anyone know what the USA is actually so afraid of?[/QUOTE] The unknown.

Just keep the information on a closed circuit not connected to the internet, while special internet stations are there shouldn't contain any sensitive information on them and should probably have very small hard drives.

[QUOTE=Cabbage;45438598]Does anyone know what the USA is actually so afraid of? [B]I think their continuing excuse of 'turrist' is getting kind of stale seeing as there hasn't really been a legitimate terrorist threat to the US since 9/11[/B][/QUOTE] That just means it's working!

[QUOTE=Cabbage;45438598]Does anyone know what the USA is actually so afraid of? [/QUOTE] Not having power.

this is an evident thing, the downgrading of technology was bound to happen in certain fields because people become scared or they realize its many disadvantages

[QUOTE=draugur;45438442]Holy shit I can't believe someone said this unironically.[/QUOTE] I didn't say it unironically, but i only said it to see if anyone agreed. I actually don't believe you can remotelly hack something just because it's connected to a power source.

[QUOTE=Cabbage;45438598]I think their continuing excuse of 'turrist' is getting kind of stale seeing as there hasn't really been a legitimate terrorist threat to the US since 9/11[/QUOTE] [url=http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2013/07/60-terrorist-plots-since-911-continued-lessons-in-domestic-counterterrorism]At least 60 publicly known[/url], plus however many more were stopped without becoming public, isn't a legitimate threat? Attacks like the Boston Marathon bombing and the Fort Hood shooting were clearly effective in their intended purpose, even if the raw body count was a fraction of 9/11. But what about substantial attacks before 9/11, too? African embassy bombings, USS Cole bombing, the first WTC attack, Oklahoma City, or the Anthrax scare in '01?

[QUOTE=Cabbage;45438598]Does anyone know what the USA is actually so afraid of? I think their continuing excuse of 'turrist' is getting kind of stale seeing as there hasn't really been a legitimate terrorist threat to the US since 9/11[/QUOTE] They want to know what other nations are thinking about. Espionage on foreign powers is how those foreign powers keep each other telling the truth. Spying on your own people though, different darker story altogether.

[QUOTE=MatheusMCardoso;45439534]I didn't say it unironically, but i only said it to see if anyone agreed. I actually don't believe you can remotelly hack something just because it's connected to a power source.[/QUOTE] Uhh huh, sure you did. [img]https://fireden.net/4chan/images.4chan.org//vg/src/1385152885634.png[/img]

[IMG]http://hipsterhitler.com/hhcomic/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/05_typewriter.jpg[/IMG] also, why the fuck is Sterling Cooper in op

Why do this? They could just create an internet between their intelligence agencies that isn't connected to the main internet. As long as they keep it super secret they a way of communicating without sending mail.

[QUOTE=draugur;45439973]Uhh huh, sure you did. [img]https://fireden.net/4chan/images.4chan.org//vg/src/1385152885634.png[/img][/QUOTE] ok

That's actually really smart haha. But really, USA is simply still an imperialistic state that seeks to secure it's own safety from outside bad guys that may pose a potential threat to the nation

[QUOTE=Teddybeer;45440791][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zweites_Buch"]Zweites Buch[/URL] You probably have never heard of it.[/QUOTE] That makes you sound like such a book hipster.

[QUOTE=Cabbage;45438598]Does anyone know what the USA is actually so afraid of? I think their continuing excuse of 'turrist' is getting kind of stale seeing as there hasn't really been a legitimate terrorist threat to the US since 9/11[/QUOTE] I'm just going to quote a post from the original thread about the spying. [QUOTE=catbarf;45322526]No, that's totally wrong and you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. You should read literally any book on how intelligence-gathering operates. I'd suggest By Way of Deception, Robert Maxwell: Israel’s Master Spy, or Dirty Work. Or even go read Argo, it was written by Tony Mendez himself. Every country operates an intelligence service that tries to get as much information as they can. It's not about trust. It's not about who your allies are. It's because politicians will lie, and they will withhold vital information, and every country has an express desire in knowing what their neighbors are up to. It's why sudden events like the Iranian Revolution or the dissolution of Yugoslavia are today considered unusual, whereas if you go back a hundred years and look at historical events like the invasion of Poland or the Spanish Civil War, they were commonplace because there was no formal apparatus for governments to keep tabs on one another. The United States maintained for decades the so-called 'rainbow plans', military plans for possible war with close allies, such as the UK (War Plans Red and Red-Orange). It isn't because it was considered a strong likelihood, it's because without any effective way to gather intelligence, political shifts and sudden wars could not be predicted. Nearly every European country maintained similar plans, but today they're considered archaic because of the availability of intelligence. And today the US is far from the only country that does this sort of thing, and spying is not and never has been restricted to only a nation's top enemies, like the popular image of the West united against the Soviets. Sharon Scranage, a CIA officer, was a spy for Ghana. Kendall Myers, State Department, spied for Cuba for over thirty years. Jonathan Pollard, a civilian intelligence analyst, was an Israeli spy. Israel is one of our closest allies, and yet there is a long history of Israeli intelligence (primarily Mossad) seeking to infiltrate the US government. Those are just a few off the top of my head that got into the US government, if we want to talk about spying between the Five Eyes and NATO there are dozens more examples. By the way, you want to talk about the BND, Germany's spy service? There was a scandal in '05 when it got out that back in the 90s they had started a spy program against journalists from their own country to try to contain negative press about German involvement in the Gulf War. Colin Powell's request for military aid from the UN against Iraq in 2003 was based on intelligence collected by the BND, whose agents in Iraq had recruited an informant who claimed that Hussein was in possession of WMDs. And back in '08, one of their main assets in Iran, who provided information on Iranian nuclear development to his BND handlers, was arrested in Germany when it became apparent that he was double-crossing his handlers. There was a scandal. 'Security apparatus workers', my ass. If the German BND could put a tap on Barack Obama's phone, they would do so in a heartbeat, and if you think otherwise you are incredibly naive and uninformed. Our allies aren't mad that we would dare to spy on other countries, they're mad that we're better at it than they are.[/QUOTE] Do you seriously think that Britain isn't spying, or wouldn't spy on Germany if it had the ability to? Get real. It is in every country's best interest to spy on every other country.

[QUOTE=Zambies!;45437976]Nuclear power, typewriters, it's like Germany is going backwards in time.[/QUOTE] Now we just need nuclear-powered typewriters

this is what a typewriter's used ink ribbon looks like [img]http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120512185755/everymanhybrid/images/thumb/3/33/InkRibbon.jpg/500px-InkRibbon.jpg[/img]

Lets reinvent Enigma machines aswell.

[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;45437310]What else are we missing from the Cold War era?[/QUOTE] East German secret police exploding safes, they prevent hackers from getting in...by killing them

[QUOTE=Cabbage;45438598]Does anyone know what the USA is actually so afraid of? I think their continuing excuse of 'turrist' is getting kind of stale seeing as there hasn't really been a legitimate terrorist threat to the US since 9/11[/QUOTE] It's literally an intelligence agencies job to do this stuff, if you really think that one of if not the most developed and successful intelligence communities on the planet is putting much stake on there being terrorists in the German government, you're silly. However, It's an intelligence agencies job to find out anything and everything they can get their hands, eyes, and ears on until a relevant use for it comes up. There's a lot of unexpected stuff and unthinkable things happening in the world, it's their goal to have information on file so the country can deal with those situations as quick as possible. If you think any other semi-relevant country on the world stage would pass on the chance to have the logistics and means to pull off stuff like this, well, you've got quite a few idealistic thoughts swimming around in your head, honestly.

[QUOTE=Reshy;45438668]Just keep the information on a closed circuit not connected to the internet, while special internet stations are there shouldn't contain any sensitive information on them and should probably have very small hard drives.[/QUOTE] There's actually been cases of virii that communicated over onboard audio and leapfrogged from infected machine to infected machine until they got one with an internet access. Basically the reason they're going they're thinking about typewriters is simple - the danger isn't from an infection that comes from outside, but most of the danger comes from malware already embedded in compromised hardware. Which is much much harder to detect. That was also part of the whole NSA interception deal. There's also a fear that the chinesse may be doing thiss, as lalrge segments of the hardwaare are made there. As such you need work with hardware you can control even during construction to be safe. [editline]20th July 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Sableye;45443682]East German secret police exploding safes, they prevent hackers from getting in...by killing them[/QUOTE] The kill the one trying to get in is actually often a result of a badly calibrated explosive. They're generally only meant to destroy the contents.