Porn Site xHamster Is Shaming Users For “Rape” Searches
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It isn't even liberal to shame people for their fetishes.
[QUOTE=Take_Opal;50495413]Rape fetish porn is still fantasizing about rape... I can't see how anyone can try to argue that appealing to rape fetishes doesn't perpetrate rape as something to romanticize or fantasize about.[/QUOTE]
Then it's clearly something you don't understand, thus shouldn't comment on. Consensual-non-consent is a considerably popular kink that people really like. BDSM/kink is full of weird things you likely don't understand, and that's fine. As long as it's between two consenting adults and they are safely aware of the risks/circumstances, then it's perfectly fine, and shouldn't be condemned.
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[QUOTE=LaTrefle;50496172]I feel like that fetish appears on someone because of a lack of control on life/relationships etc. You just want to force things through and seeing someone else do it relieves the person[/QUOTE]
Absolutely not. How would you even explain the desire to be on the receiving end, which tends to be just about (I'd argue more) common?
Wow, let's leave aside that people have weird tastes sometimes, and that we shouldn't dictate what they watch as long as it's legal, but way to go fishing for praise xHamster, when you hosted several thousands of videos catering to this fetish yourself. Nice job doing a 180.
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Absolutely not. How would you even explain the desire to be on the receiving end, which tends to be just about (I'd argue more) common?[/QUOTE]
Lack of a strong person, willing to give it into said person, wanting to be humilliated.
[QUOTE=Jackald;50496553]Yeah, people who search for rape are mentally deficient. Sane people like me stick to scatalogical furry inflation porn.[/QUOTE]
you jest, but then one day you'll click on something and see those tags
and my own standards would make me escape the confines of my mortal coil to back out as soon as possible
[QUOTE=Combine 177;50496120]The site that is infamous for beastiality, gore, real rape, child porn and much more.[/QUOTE]
*was
If you look any of that stuff up now it tries to scare you by saying that it logged your IP.
[QUOTE=Thlis;50495100]Apparently Xhamster is also blocking North Carolina users in protest.
So yeah, whoever is running that site is a complete mental invalid.[/QUOTE]
Apparently they're doing a pretty bad job at blocking NC I can get on just fine. :V
imagine halting someone from getting their rocks off based on moral superiority
[QUOTE=gufu;50495199]Why would you even go to XHamster for any fetish searches, anyway?[/QUOTE]
Do you have any idea how hard it is to find fresh free content for a lot of fetishes? I hit every base I can with a search when I'm looking.
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[QUOTE=Combine 177;50496120]The site that is infamous for beastiality, gore, real rape, child porn and much more.[/QUOTE]
iirc they still cooperate with authorities when this happens. The atmosphere unintentionally encourages it though. People take the "doing things where your mother would be ashamed" stuff must've made people think it's ok to post illegal shit
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[QUOTE=FunnyStarRunner;50496599]*was
If you look any of that stuff up now it tries to scare you by saying that it logged your IP.[/QUOTE]
Is it fake like the imagefap one?
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50496689]Is it fake like the imagefap one?[/QUOTE]
Most likely. It's the same scare tactic that malware advertisers use.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;50496215]Primary difference being that in an acted rape scene, there is no actual rape occurring. It is consenting adults acting in a pornographic video. Thus, no victims.
Same can't be said for child porn or bestiality. Children and animals cannot consent to sex. It is ACTUAL rape, with actual victims.
Your argument only applies to illustrated porn depicting children or animals, in which case it loses a lot of its weight anyway.[/QUOTE]
Yeah illustrations and fiction don't really count, idk why people like to pretend it does. No one gets hurt in the process of drawing/writing, just like writing a murder mystery or drawing gore isn't killing someone. The line between fantasy and reality isn't blurred. You'd have to actually have mental issues or a lack of morals to make jumps between the two when it comes to such acts.
I've known alleged rape victims to be into this infact. I don't believe my ex anymore because she was a narcissistic liar and perpetual victim that raped her underage cousin, but when I did believe her, when she'd ask me to choke her and pretend to rape her and such I'd get a little discomfort because what I was being asked to do matched her story.
Hell with how she turned out, I probably was being set up so she could claim the same thing about me. Some of her former friends have told me she claimed something, none have told me what. I keep a huge folder of everything I have such as logs videos pictures and notes deep in my hard drive (I hate seeing it when I'm casually browsing so I put it somewhere I wouldn't stumble on it by accident) as evidence incase I have to prove she's full of it someday.
I can understand being creeped/grossed out by fetishes such as rape, loli, scat, guro etc but I think that's as far as you should take it. Bad move on xhamster's part, they weren't that great anyway though.
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Not at all opposed to hiding it behind searches and categories and tags though, containment is fine for those less than popular fetishes.
[QUOTE=LaTrefle;50496172]I feel like that fetish appears on someone because of a lack of control on life/relationships etc. You just want to force things through and seeing someone else do it relieves the person[/QUOTE]
Pretty harmful to have sweeping generalizations about fetishes like this. There are too many factors at play to make assumptions as to why people are into whatever they're into, especially if you start owning it up to psychological/lifestyle conditions.
I'm not saying you're incorrect in all cases, but I'm saying from the experience of talking to people highly open about their sexuality, that the case you described wasn't the norm, or was sometimes even the opposite.
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[QUOTE=LaTrefle;50496557]Lack of a strong person, willing to give it into said person, wanting to be humilliated.[/QUOTE]
"Lack of a strong person"
Yeah you have no idea what you're talking about.
"Wanting to be humiliated"
I mean, I guess. That's another extremely common kink. Seems redundant to bring up in this context, tbh.
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[QUOTE=duckmaster;50496608]Apparently they're doing a pretty bad job at blocking NC I can get on just fine. :V[/QUOTE]
irrc they only displayed a message, no actual blocking
[QUOTE=Combine 177;50496120]The site that is infamous for beastiality, gore, real rape, child porn and much more.[/QUOTE]
it's honestly the only site that has a large collection of amature shit. I've never encountered anything you've just listed while using ML apart from the odd fucked up video here and there
heavy-r is what your referring to
[QUOTE=Combine 177;50496120]The site that is infamous for beastiality, gore, real rape, child porn and much more.[/QUOTE]
Was*
They've cleaned up god knows how long ago. Hasn't been that was in ages.
Porn sites and fighting for social justice do not go together. At the very least, I would never expect to see pornographers talking about 'rape culture' with regards their audience. I've never seen Walmart fat-shaming.
The world's first puritan porn website, complete with shameless hypocrisy.
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;50496159]The connection is that people feel entitled to sex.. for what ever reason. The "friend zone" is merely feeling entitled to sleep with someone because you were friendly to them. This mindset of "I did x, therefore you should sleep with me" is pretty close to the core of "rape culture".[/QUOTE]
This isn't what the "friend zone" is or what it means at all though. It's just a metaphorical representation of the grief that comes from trying to date someone and they say something like "you're such a good friend" or "you're like a brother to me", which is in some cases basically an off hand way of saying "not interested", letting them down gently type stuff. It's not some concept that you're owed sex for going to the movies.
It's more like "shit I wanted to date her but she just wants to be friends". It's puzzling that people link that to rape since they obviously didn't turn around and rape them when they got rejected. It's just being sore about a type of romantic rejection. "Escaping the friend zone" is turning a friendship into a relationship.
Spending your entire paycheck on a long date or a series of dates to be told "we're friends" at the last minute is a legitimate reason to feel sore, and there's countless men and women who admit to deliberately taking advantage by leading someone on.
If a girl asked me out on a date and I agreed because I wanted to see the movie she suggested for free and decide to pretend I'm interested for fear she'll call it off instead of say something to the affect of "I'm not looking for anything but I'd be glad to go as friends if you'd like" would that not be kind of a dick move?
Now if she sat there and started getting mad and demanding we continue or something it'd be rapey, but if she looks disappointed and goes home and calls her best friend and is like "man he just wants to be friends, I'm out 60 bucks for nothing" it's not rapish at all.
It's a well known fact that people will put tons of money and effort, even put on airs if they think they have a chance with their crush or someone they are interested in. It's shameful that people will go to lengths such as drawing comparisons to rape just to escape guilt from leading someone on. Using attraction to get what you want isn't new and feeling grief when you're rejected, especially after thinking you were already courting isn't "rape culture". It's like a lot of these people don't understand rape or even relationships. Guilt isn't a societal conspiracy.
The only rape culture I am seeing is the one where SJWs and "progressives" try to link every thing they don't like back to rape. It sickens me. Rape is serious and they're using the word because the act is universally bad. They're gonna slowly kill the word by overuse to the point where we may have to use "un consensual sex by force" for people to know when we're talking about real rape.
At this point I wouldn't be shocked if they said its rape culture/patriarchy/misogyny that women pee sitting down because dirty toilet seats
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[QUOTE=Jon27;50497227]Porn sites and fighting for social justice do not go together. At the very least, I would never expect to see pornographers talking about 'rape culture' with regards their audience. I've never seen Walmart fat-shaming.[/QUOTE]
IIRC some store similar to Walmart actually did pretty much fat shame. Something about making a section just for fatties or something like dropping plus size stock.
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;50496132]"The friend zone" is also an excellent example of rape culture. There are legitimately people who think that a woman (or man) is some sort of sex vending machine, that accepts friendly acts as payment.[/QUOTE]
Lmao the friend zone is when you want to go out with someone and they want to be friends
The context of it being used as "entitlement" is way beyond the friendzone, and is such an extrapolated group of people anyway
[QUOTE=Keyblockor1;50494991]It's a fetish.
99.9% of the people looking up weird shit on the internet to jack off to never have the urge to copy it in real life i'd say.
It's extremely fucking stupid for them to shame their viewership like this and will only fuck them over in both the short-term and long-term.[/QUOTE]
Completely agree with this, branching out from the norm is good.
[QUOTE=Take_Opal;50495413]Rape fetish porn is still fantasizing about rape... I can't see how anyone can try to argue that appealing to rape fetishes doesn't perpetrate rape as something to romanticize or fantasize about.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure how you don't get it, I really don't.
"Rape fetish" is actually more of an umbrella than whatever you're imagining, it includes all sorts of related fetishes and it's a big part of the D, S, and M in BDSM. No, you don't need to be a sadist to be the aggressor, my first time was with my ex-girlfriend who explicitly told me the first time we hung out that she wanted to be raped. Actually it was a really specific scenario but long story short I gave her exactly what she wanted and it was [U]amazing.[/U] Does that mean I'm a rapist? No, rape is horrible. That act of forcing somebody else and holding them down as they fight and struggle while making them submit is just a game, it isn't real rape at all. When these things happen it's often agreed upon in advance because spontaneously seeing if somebody wants to be force-fucked is extremely dangerous [I]especially[/I] if you're a man. Explaining that to anyone is impossible, hell, merely [I]telling[/I] people about engaging in any D/s or especially S&M activity without first expressing how "weird it was, but still kinda hot" is a risky gamble. Why do you think BDSM in general is underground? This isn't something that's "romanticized" in any way, people still think you're weird and disgusting and broken for even a little handcuffing and tickling so why would they romanticize violently fucking somebody over a table?
This doesn't perpetuate anything, it just shames [I]consenting adults engaging in sexual activity[/I] and I'd argue that it opens the door for shaming unorthodox relationships in general.
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By the way, Take_Opal, my ex-girlfriend still has her CCW permit because she doesn't actually want to be violently raped by a stranger in a parking lot.
I would hope that all those kinky nights would give her an edge in fighting back if some shitbag did try it.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;50496140]If Facepunch hasn't been adequately shaming you over your porn preferences, then please report to your nearest GMF to have your dosage increased.[/QUOTE]
GMF means? I am not sure I want to google that term.
[QUOTE]Fair enough. The biggest issue with the new age of liberalism is that it is pushing censorship and restriction of speech. Authoritarian left just as bad as authoritarian right. Xhamster quickly moving in the wrong direction.[/QUOTE]
That because while the presented logic of each camp is different, the operative logic of both views are the exact same thing. Thus will lead to the same result.
[QUOTE=Dayzofwinter;50497544]GMF means? I am not sure I want to google that term.[/QUOTE]
Gold Member Forum.
[QUOTE=Dayzofwinter;50497544]GMF means? I am not sure I want to google that term.[/QUOTE]
Gold Members Forum
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[QUOTE=Dayzofwinter;50497544]GMF means? I am not sure I want to google that term.[/QUOTE]
It isn't anything porn related, it's the subforum for gold members only
[QUOTE=LaTrefle;50496172]I feel like that fetish appears on someone because of a lack of control on life/relationships etc. You just want to force things through and seeing someone else do it relieves the person[/QUOTE]
Or maybe I just have it idk, fetishes are weird. I mean, how would you explain that guy with a tile fetish??
[QUOTE=ManFlakes;50497678]Or maybe I just have it idk, fetishes are weird. I mean, how would you explain that guy with a tile fetish??[/QUOTE]
Sexual attraction to geometric shapes which are aligned properly, so probably a form of OCD.
Ok fine..you do that
people will just go elsewhere then
Also I dated the worlds shyest girl a few years back ..i mean suuuper shy she would tried so hard to keep everyone happy and hardly spoke..always desperate for approval
Turned out she had a rape fantasy ...it's always the quiet ones isn't it
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