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[QUOTE=soccerskyman;50508175]lol nobody goes into SH taking things seriously[/QUOTE] Except me. But then I take a perverse pleasure in arguing over minutia, so I'm probably in the minority.

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;50508472]Except me. But then I take a perverse pleasure in arguing over minutia, so I'm probably in the minority.[/QUOTE]I take a perverse pleasure in satisfying other people's perverse pleasures. [I]Tell me your opinions about that local sports team~[/I]

[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;50508323]stuff[/QUOTE] While I agree with a lot of what you're saying, I think the worst way to try and convince others to see from your point of view is to suggest that they are retarded. (this also goes for the other person too) I think he had a messed up motive at first with a push to shame people, but what won't help is you trivialize him in return. It'll just push him to his defenses where he won't see eye to eye. [editline]13th June 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=WillerinV1.02;50508445]Most people have sexual education by the time they're viewing porn and you can't assume everyone has poor mental health. It might seem reasonable to you but I'll just let you know it's not.[/QUOTE] I, for some reason, never got sex ed past what I got in the fifth grade, which basically just said you'll grow hair and get erections. [I]That's it.[/I] Everything else I learned on my own or was just based off of what others (including my parents and classmates) told me.

[QUOTE=wauterboi;50508506]While I agree with a lot of what you're saying, I think the worst way to try and convince others to see from your point of view is to suggest that they are retarded.[/QUOTE]You're absolutely right, that's quite often extremely counterproductive, but... [QUOTE]I think he had a messed up motive at first with a push to shame people, but what won't help is you trivialize him in return. It'll just push him to his defenses where he won't see eye to eye.[/QUOTE]When he walked into this it wasn't with a good attitude, and five people all questioned his posts which made him recoil and backtrack. I think it was obvious that he wasn't open to changing his mind on the matter, all in spite of having several explanations to enlighten him on the subject passed his way. That last post of his dropped the pretenses and showed clearly that he simply didn't care, some reclusive creep beating it in his room is the persona he's given anyone even peripherally linked to this and their deviance is "problematic." There was no seeing eye to eye, we're all freaks who apparently enable rapists and we have no right to be offended.

[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;50508547]You're absolutely right, that's quite often extremely counterproductive, but... When he walked into this it wasn't with a good attitude, and five people all questioned his posts which made him recoil and backtrack. I think it was obvious that he wasn't open to changing his mind on the matter, all in spite of having several explanations to enlighten him on the subject passed his way. That last post of his dropped the pretenses and showed clearly that he simply didn't care, some reclusive creep beating it in his room is the persona he's given anyone even peripherally linked to this and their deviance is "problematic." There was no seeing eye to eye, we're all freaks who apparently enable rapists and we have no right to be offended.[/QUOTE] In all conflict, if what you seek is peace, you need to be the one to deescalate the situation. You'll never have a civil conversation if you respond to perceived hostility with hostility in turn.

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;50508563]In all conflict, if what you seek is peace, you need to be the one to deescalate the situation. You'll never have a civil conversation if you respond to perceived hostility with hostility in turn.[/QUOTE]I never sought peace though and I really didn't respect his opinion on the matter. I at least gave him the courtesy of looking at his argument with seriousness after my initial, "wow what are you fucking doing," response.

[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;50508572]I never sought peace though and I really didn't respect his opinion on the matter. I at least gave him the courtesy of looking at his argument with seriousness after my initial, "wow what are you fucking doing," response.[/QUOTE] What's the point of not seeking reasonable, calm, intellectual discourse though? Best case scenario you tell someone to fuck off and they respond in kind and nothing is accomplished at least if you seek calm, reasonable discourse there's a chance you might learn something and change your opinion to more accurately reflect reality

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;50508620]What's the point of not seeking reasonable, calm, intellectual discourse though? Best case scenario you tell someone to fuck off and they respond in kind and nothing is accomplished at least if you seek calm, reasonable discourse there's a chance you might learn something and change your opinion to more accurately reflect reality[/QUOTE] Yeah, it's been my goal over the last five years to become far more calm and collected. You can see that the worst of my posts and my bans generally come from me escalating. It's a very important skill to develop because it's the only way things will change more positively. When you focus on zingers and making the other person look like an idiot, they will return the favor and become far worse. And the best way to do that is to think from the mindset of them [I]not[/I] being an idiot, because there is a chance that they're just not knowledgeable and need another point of reference. When all is lost, then it's up to you to make the decision on whether or not you should label them negatively but ultimately you move on. Hopefully this isn't too far off topic, but it's just a little bit to steer the conversation into a kinder light.

Who the fuck are xhamster.com to judge people based on morality. They still have abusive videos on their website and they have no right to say they are feminist when 99.999% of their content are women getting fucked. [editline]13th June 2016[/editline] Fuck x hamster

[QUOTE=gastyne;50508703]they have no right to say they are feminist when 99.999% of their content are women getting fucked. [/QUOTE] The site can go eat a dick and all but im not sure i understand how one of these excludes the other. [editline]13th June 2016[/editline] I thought [genuine non-batshit] feminists were sex positive.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;50508736]The site can go eat a dick and all but im not sure i understand how one of these excludes the other. [editline]13th June 2016[/editline] I thought [genuine non-batshit] feminists were sex positive.[/QUOTE] Depends on who you define as [genuine non-batshit]. From my personal experiences, I feel that sentiments on the issue are pretty evenly distributed across the different 'factions' of Feminism (i.e. third wave, sex-positive, radical, TERFs, liberal feminists, 'radical feminist' refers to a particular, identifiable set of beliefs and not just a feminist who has any kind of radical political beliefs). I do know that NOW (the national organisation for women) is the largest recognizable feminist organisation in the world and they don't make a strong case for either side, presumably in order to not put off their sex-positive or sex-negative members. Their official policy is that they have no policy. Sex-negativity in feminism seemed to be dying out circa the mid-2000s: [URL]http://archive.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2005/03/06/x_ed_out?pg=full[/URL] [QUOTE]So what happened to those voices? Now a law professor at the University of Michigan, MacKinnon has a new book out this month, ''Women's Lives, Men's Laws'' (Belknap), which includes essays and speeches on pornography, but in recent years she and Dworkin seem to have lost not just the legal battle but the cultural war. These days, ''sex-positive'' feminists like Laura Kipnis or Camille Paglia tend to get the airtime. And in the universities, women's studies scholars are more likely to do close readings of the aesthetics and politics of pornography than to march in favor of banning it. Even at the time, MacKinnon and Dworkin's campaign sharply split the feminist movement. While supported by leading figures like Steinem and Brownmiller, the Indianapolis law in particular galvanized others in opposition. They formed the Feminist Anti-Censorship Taskforce, or FACT. When the law's constitutionality was being decided by a federal appeals court, FACT submitted an amicus brief-signed by Betty Friedan, Rita Mae Brown, Kate Millet, Adrienne Rich and others-opposing it. Torn between the conflicting arguments, the National Organization of Women was unable to take a position. MacKinnon's description of her opponents, in a 1987 speech, was typical of the heated rhetoric: ''The Black movement has Uncle Toms and Oreo cookies. The labor movement had scabs. The women's movement has FACT.''[/QUOTE] There seems to have been a resurgence of sex-negativity recently, but it hasn't come from mainstream feminism but instead from radical portions of newer third-wave feminism on University Campuses (i.e. not third-wave feminists or radical feminists, but specifically radical third-wave feminists). What I'm talking about is places like Jezebel, Livejournal and Feministing.com, various student groups such as the NUS and yes, a (relatively small) number of blogs on Tumblr (and possibly other sources like the Huffingtonpost, depending on how wide of a net you decide to cast). In order to work out the relative proportion of feminists who believe similar stuff to these places, I'd need statistics that compare the total number of feminists in the west to the number of people who associate themselves with them. Here's Camille Paglia, a well-known sex-positive liberal feminist, on the issue: [video=youtube;88_3AhU0-B0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88_3AhU0-B0[/video]

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;50508620]What's the point of not seeking reasonable, calm, intellectual discourse though? Best case scenario you tell someone to fuck off and they respond in kind and nothing is accomplished at least if you seek calm, reasonable discourse there's a chance you might learn something and change your opinion to more accurately reflect reality[/QUOTE]It's... fun? I mean not everything has to be about an accomplishment, I don't go into any discussion thinking, "yes, I will convince this person they're wrong." If that happens to either of us then fine, but I'm not going to expect it and I'm not going to seek it out. Plus if a viewpoint can't succeed on it's own merit without being propped up by mere civility then it wasn't of any worth anyway. Who gives a fuck about a failed abortion of an idea if it can't be expressed with conviction? I can't speak for anyone else, but I certainly don't. There's no point for me seeking "calm, intelligent discourse" since everyone [I]always[/I] thinks I'm some angry asshole anyway, no matter how calm I may be or how nice I may put things I'm still told to calm down. (unsurprisingly this is what pisses me off) At least nobody's seriously questioned my intelligence, so there's that. So no, I'm not going to seek out something I'll never have, I've tried to "tone it down" but I've come up with nothing so I've resumed my normal internal dialogue as I type. That aside, you're not at all obligated to respond or read anything I type, so if you feel it's truly offensive or disruptive then I encourage you to use the ignore function.

Next they'll be shaming people for looking up BDSM porn.

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;50496277]Just talk to her about it, man. Rape fantasy is incredibly common. I think that most people would be willing to try it with a partner they're comfortable with and the proper safety net in place.[/QUOTE] Talked with her about it, and what are the odds - she's into the same deal :v: Thanks buddy.

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