Trump comment about immigration 'problems' baffles Sweden
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[QUOTE=Eric95;51849320][video]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/833681539997253636[/video]
my god
why do right wing americans think they know better about sweden than swedes do[/QUOTE]
Why do left wing Europeans think they know better about the us than Americans do?
[QUOTE=Amfleet;51846341]Forget his Twitter account, what we really need to take away from him is the remote control.[/QUOTE]
Or, you know, the presidency. We could take that away from him, too.
[QUOTE=Mr_Razzums;51849589]Why do left wing Europeans think they know better about the us than Americans do?[/QUOTE]
Not everything is about you.
[QUOTE=Eric95;51849320][video]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/833681539997253636[/video]
my god
why do right wing americans think they know better about sweden than swedes do[/QUOTE]When caught lying, there's two approaches you can take; correct it and apologise, or double-down.
[QUOTE=Medevila;51849593]maybe because roughly [B]20%[/B] of Americans voted in a president that lives in total disregard of reality[/QUOTE]
ftfy
Remember, we don't have mandatory voting like some countries, so a good number of people are either too lazy/apathetic/tied down with work to vote, or they fall victim to schemes intended to drive down turnout.
Honestly, I think we should make participation mandatory. That would hopefully mitigate some of the fuck fuck games.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;51849685]ftfy
Remember, we don't have mandatory voting like some countries, so a good number of people are either too lazy/apathetic/tied down with work to vote, or they fall victim to schemes intended to drive down turnout.
Honestly, I think we should make participation mandatory. That would hopefully mitigate some of the fuck fuck games.[/QUOTE]
Not going to happen, unless GOP gets Nationalized Voter ID.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;51849685]ftfy
Remember, we don't have mandatory voting like some countries, so a good number of people are either too lazy/apathetic/tied down with work to vote, or they fall victim to schemes intended to drive down turnout.
Honestly, I think we should make participation mandatory. That would hopefully mitigate some of the fuck fuck games.[/QUOTE]
Brazil is a good example of why mandatory voting does not always work well
There are commemoration events being made on Facebook for the 'terrorist attack' in Sweden the other night. :v:
[url]https://www.facebook.com/events/1858922141053223/[/url]
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;51849651]When caught lying, there's two approaches you can take; correct it and apologise, or double-down.[/QUOTE]
Remember that one time Donald Trump actually publicly apologized for some scandal (I can't even remember which one it was, holy shit) and how unnatural he sounded, obviously the apology not even being written by him, and how he still managed to "sneak" in accusations against Hillary during that?
Yeah, I don't think we're ever seeing an honest apology from him ever. Especially now that he's the "chief here and he won" and yadda yadda yadda.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;51849685]ftfy
Remember, we don't have mandatory voting like some countries, so a good number of people are either too lazy/apathetic/tied down with work to vote, or they fall victim to schemes intended to drive down turnout.
Honestly, I think we should make participation mandatory. That would hopefully mitigate some of the fuck fuck games.[/QUOTE]
America should make election days a federal holiday, a lot of other countries do that.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;51850150]America should make election days a federal holiday, a lot of other countries do that.[/QUOTE]
but then poor minorities who can't afford to miss work would have their votes counted, can't have that
[QUOTE=Dom Pyroshark;51849973]Remember that one time Donald Trump actually publicly apologized for some scandal (I can't even remember which one it was, holy shit) and how unnatural he sounded, obviously the apology not even being written by him, and how he still managed to "sneak" in accusations against Hillary during that?
Yeah, I don't think we're ever seeing an honest apology from him ever. Especially now that he's the "chief here and he won" and yadda yadda yadda.[/QUOTE]
That was the "grab her by the pussy" video that he apologized for, and it seemed like he was reading off a teleprompter.
[QUOTE=Mr_Razzums;51849589]Why do left wing Europeans think they know better about the us than Americans do?[/QUOTE]
correct me if im wrong but last i checked they live in europe and you dont
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;51846301]Has Trump clarified yet on what exactly happened "last night" in Sweden?
I mean I'm guessing no but he likes to tweet a lot so.[/QUOTE]
so there's a lot of speculation on this kinda shit that trump does but basically nothing happened last night, it just makes you look into shit that is happening in sweden. once you start finding stories of rape statistics in sweden stacking up you start to realize what the fuck is up. of course, this wasn't exactly what he was talking about, and the point is it never is. his comments are always made to be vague or in broken sentences that makes people fill in the blanks. his supporters fill them in one way, his opponents another. whenever someone says "remember when he said THIS?" he can always say "i didn't say that" because in actuality he said nothing, and made no real point.
[QUOTE=TheJoey;51851286]once you start finding stories of rape statistics in sweden stacking up you start to realize what the fuck is up.[/QUOTE]
And you'd be wrong.
[QUOTE=Kazumi;51846206]The increase in reported sex crimes is rooted in the change of the judicial definition of rape [url=https://dinarattigheter.se/dina-rattigheter/vad-sager-lagen/vad-ar-sexuella-overgrepp/juridisk-definition-av-valdtakt/](Brottsbalken 6 kap 1 §: Lag 2005:90)[/url] to be more protective of the vulnerable by include more cases of sexual harassment into the term. Each occasion of sexual assault on a victim by the same assailant counts as a separate instance/report.[/QUOTE]
But who needs research, feels are the new reals and news agencies that criticize the POTUS for lying are fake news.
[QUOTE=TheJoey;51851286]so there's a lot of speculation on this kinda shit that trump does but basically nothing happened last night, it just makes you look into shit that is happening in sweden. once you start finding stories of rape statistics in sweden stacking up you start to realize what the fuck is up. of course, this wasn't exactly what he was talking about, and the point is it never is. his comments are always made to be vague or in broken sentences that makes people fill in the blanks. his supporters fill them in one way, his opponents another. whenever someone says "remember when he said THIS?" he can always say "i didn't say that" because in actuality he said nothing, and made no real point.[/QUOTE]
Dogwhistler-in-Chief
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;51851325]And you'd be wrong.[/QUOTE]
hello president trump? is that you?
i'd like to know exactly what i might be wrong about.
in 1975 sweden became a multicultural country. reported rape increased since then over one thousand percent. as of 2015, sweden is number 2 on the global list of rape countries. according to a [url=http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article12417039.ab]2010 survey[/url], there were 53.2 rapes per 100,000 inhabitants. according to the [url=https://www.bra.se/download/18.22a7170813a0d141d2180005382/1354096426789/2012_NTU_2011_Kap_3_Utsatthet_2012.pdf]swedish national council for crime prevention[/url], 29,000 women during 2011 reported they had been raped, indicating that less than 25% of rapes are reported to the police. The biggest excuse i can find is "the definition of a sexual offense has been broadened under the law, therefor more rape is reported". Nobody seems to want to talk about the results of a 2005 [url=https://www.bra.se/bra/publikationer/arkiv/publikationer/2005-12-14-brottslighet-bland-personer-fodda-i-sverige-och-i-utlandet.html]statistical survey of immigrant criminality[/url].
or it's all a myth and misunderstanding and sweden doesn't have a problem at all. guess i could be wrong after all.
the point being that anybody can look these reports up after reading about vague "shit going down in sweden" comment. this is how trump works and he does it a lot. on the surface it looks like he's got dementia and he probably does at his age, but every time he does this shit it gets results so he's just gonna keep doing it.
Maybe Swedes are raping more people?
[QUOTE=Lambeth;51851431]Maybe Swedes are raping more people?[/QUOTE]
if that is the finding you lead yourself to after investigating "sweden terror attack?" on google then trump's insane plan still works out for himself. he literally says whatever in the vaguest possible way in order for you to end up at some result and think a certain way, and for a lot of people it ends up validating him because "i guess technically he was right".
listen, i'm not here to argue rape statistics but the reports are out there and that is what you may find, and all to trump's benefit. i'm just telling you part of how trump operates so next time some people aren't so confused.
[QUOTE=TheJoey;51851286]so there's a lot of speculation on this kinda shit that trump does but basically nothing happened last night, it just makes you look into shit that is happening in sweden. once you start finding stories of rape statistics in sweden stacking up you start to realize what the fuck is up. of course, this wasn't exactly what he was talking about, and the point is it never is. his comments are always made to be vague or in broken sentences that makes people fill in the blanks. his supporters fill them in one way, his opponents another. whenever someone says "remember when he said THIS?" he can always say "i didn't say that" because in actuality he said nothing, and made no real point.[/QUOTE]
When people say Trump is playing 3D chess they are just joking, you know that, right? You're setting this up like his supporters and people who aren't his supporters are both interpreting words incorrectly when there is really only one way to interpret what he said.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;51851503]When people say Trump is playing 3D chess they are just joking, you know that, right? You're setting this up like his supporters and people who aren't his supporters are both interpreting words incorrectly when there is really only one way to interpret what he said.[/QUOTE]
actually he plays 4d chess (THAT PART WAS THE SARCASM PART) and yes, people interpreting his words incorrectly on either side of the coin is
l i t e r a l l y
what is happening. one may argue whether you and i are smarter than the average bipartisan individual, but this is what is happening every day with most retards with a twitter app on their smart phone. and it happens every single time he opens his mouth. there's actually nothing complicated or "3d chess" about this though because it's the logic even a child can make. check this shit out:
if trump can get away with saying vague rubbish once, he will do it again. and if he can keep getting away with it, he will keep doing it.
people will still continue to misinterpret what he says because people really aren't that complicated.
[QUOTE=TheJoey;51851522]actually he plays 4d chess (THAT PART WAS THE SARCASM PART) and yes, people interpreting his words incorrectly on either side of the coin is
l i t e r a l l y
what is happening. one may argue whether you and i are smarter than the average bipartisan individual, but this is what is happening every day with most retards with a twitter app on their smart phone. and it happens every single time he opens his mouth. there's actually nothing complicated or "3d chess" about this though because it's the logic even a child can make. check this shit out:
if trump can get away with saying vague rubbish once, he will do it again. and if he can keep getting away with it, he will keep doing it.
people will still continue to misinterpret what he says because people really aren't that complicated.[/QUOTE]
He didn't say vague rubbish. He said "Look at what happened in Sweden last night". He even released a tweet explicitly saying that it was from something he saw on Fox.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;51851536]He didn't say vague rubbish. He said "Look at what happened in Sweden last night". He even released a tweet explicitly saying that it was from something he saw on Fox.[/QUOTE]
that's pretty vague, because he didn't even say what had happened. "was it a terror bombing? was it a rape? riots? mass murder? what the fuck happened last night?" you read it, you look it up, you fill in the blanks. or you don't even research and you fill in the blanks. that's most trump supporters right now and most american people are going to want to research what the hell he was talking about and through that many of them may not get the answer they seek but still end up finding out about sweden rapes and unreported immigrant crime. suddenly trump is validated regardless. you following?
[QUOTE=TheJoey;51851548]that's pretty vague, because he didn't even say what had happened. "was it a terror bombing? was it a rape? riots? mass murder? what the fuck happened last night?" you read it, you look it up, you fill in the blanks. or you don't even research and you fill in the blanks. that's most trump supporters right now and most american people are going to want to research what the hell he was talking about and through that many of them may not get the answer they seek but still end up finding out about sweden rapes and unreported immigrant crime. suddenly trump is validated regardless. you following?[/QUOTE]
Sure but you seem to be forwarding the idea that it's some sort of calculated move when we know it wasn't.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;51851560]Sure but you seem to be forwarding the idea that it's some sort of calculated move when we know it wasn't.[/QUOTE]
uhh i mean it is a LITTLE BIT calculated. it's not like trump has to do a lot of brain power to come to the conclusion that, like i said before, if he got away with it numerous times before he can do it again.
[QUOTE=Eric95;51849320][video]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/833681539997253636[/video]
my god
why do right wing americans think they know better about sweden than swedes do[/QUOTE]
Never in my life did I think I would see a president pull a not joke.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;51851503]When people say Trump is playing 3D chess they are just joking, you know that, right?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheJoey;51851522]actually he plays 4d chess (THAT PART WAS THE SARCASM PART)[/QUOTE]
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Well shit sign me up for the Trump Train #nobrakes
[sp]this isn't the first time there have been riots in Rinkeby and they didn't occur the night before Trump's speech so w/e[/sp]
[QUOTE=Raidyr;51851799]Well shit sign me up for the Trump Train #nobrakes
[sp]this isn't the first time there have been riots in Rinkeby and they didn't occur the night before Trump's speech so w/e[/sp][/QUOTE]
There was riots as far back as 2010 there maybe even earlier.
[QUOTE=Paramud;51851682]Never in my life did I think I would see a president pull a not joke.[/QUOTE]
Never in my life did I think I would see many of the things I have seen in the past 6 months, but here we are.
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