U.S. joins Gulf oil spill lawsuits, seeks unlimited damages - Polidicks

[QUOTE=The Last Man;26721651]But unlimited damages? No company should have to pay that. All it will do is make gas prices soar higher than they already are. On top of that if the damages are estimated at 40 billion why not just file a general suit for 50 billion and call it even? Is it really necessary to take away jobs from BP workers because of an Environmental disaster that has already been cleaned up?[/QUOTE] Except it hasn't been all cleaned up. The oil just sank to the ground.

So facepunch explain to me how is it exactly BP's fault when Transatlantic Ocean built that entire platform and passed regulations for it to be "OKAY?" by the U.S Government? BP Already payed over 20 million a long time ago. BP seriously should tell the states to fuck off.

Anyone else find it fucking hilarious that the US is seeking damages for pollution. You know, the state responsible for a fair whack of global pollution, the state that fucked around in Kyoto and the like?

[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;26752451]Anyone else find it fucking hilarious that the US is seeking damages for pollution. You know, the state responsible for a fair whack of global pollution, the state that fucked around in Kyoto and the like?[/QUOTE] US is a country bro. . .

[QUOTE=Aw_Hell;26752749]US is a country bro. . .[/QUOTE] Yes shockingly enough I was aware of this fact, what's your point?

[QUOTE=Encryption;26720210]Just think of all the potential cash that just spewed into the ocean...[/QUOTE] At current prices of $88.1 per barrel, with 4.9 million barrels lost, that put's us around $431,690,000 [editline]17th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Aw_Hell;26752749]US is a country bro. . .[/QUOTE] A state is a country, bro. [editline]17th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=R3mix;26752171]So facepunch explain to me how is it exactly BP's fault when Transatlantic Ocean built that entire platform and passed regulations for it to be "OKAY?" by the U.S Government? BP Already payed over 20 million a long time ago. BP seriously should tell the states to fuck off.[/QUOTE] The rig was fine, it was negligent use of the rig that resulted in the blowout. Ultimately the people responsible are the bosses on the rig which practically operate without intervention from higher-ups. Their job is to make the company money, the more you drill, the more you make. They pushed the well to it's limits despite it having known problems that could have been fixed if they shut down the rig but they decided to go on and it well couldn't take it. Workers on the rig said it was a disaster waiting to happen. [editline]17th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=The Last Man;26721651]But unlimited damages? No company should have to pay that. All it will do is make gas prices soar higher than they already are. On top of that if the damages are estimated at 40 billion why not just file a general suit for 50 billion and call it even? Is it really necessary to take away jobs from BP workers because of an Environmental disaster that has already been cleaned up?[/QUOTE] Despite what the NOAA and government tell you, there will be trace amounts of crude oil in gulf seafood for decades to come. This is nowhere near cleaned up. The oil sinks to the ground and small benthic creatures get it stuck in their gills, and die or get eaten by larger fish which then introduces it into the food chain which ultimately makes it onto your table.

This is how we punish corporations, through our own court systems and using our own laws. I've seen way to many people saying that the government itself should wage all out war against BP and magically make the spill go away (though off shore oil drilling should just go away period.) Also another reason to buy an electric. [editline]17th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Jasun;26751385]Guys just think who will be affected by this - the rich billionaires at the top of the company or the people who work on the rigs and at the gas stations? Doing this is going to mean that lots and lots of innocent people will be losing their jobs.[/QUOTE] So you propose we let multinational corporations get away with these sort of things because of how many people they employ? I may believe in a mostly free market and a lack of government interference, but when something this big happens governments need to bring companies to trial for breaking their laws and for potential damages to their economies. [editline]17th December 2010[/editline] No one should be above the law, no matter what.

[QUOTE=Prismatex;26715476]Unspecified damages, not unlimited. Otherwise, this is great news. BP shouldn't get away with fucking shit up like the bankers did.[/QUOTE] Bankers kinda got away.

[QUOTE=Prismatex;26715476]Unspecified damages, not unlimited.[/QUOTE] Phew, I thought I was a goner...

[QUOTE=The Last Man;26721651]But unlimited damages? No company should have to pay that. All it will do is make gas prices soar higher than they already are. On top of that if the damages are estimated at 40 billion why not just file a general suit for 50 billion and call it even? Is it really necessary to take away jobs from BP workers because of an Environmental disaster that has already been cleaned up?[/QUOTE] Wait, I'm having a vision. I see you working at a factory int he future, getting paid minimum wage slaving away in a dirty work environment. You make products to help repopulate the Gulf of Mexico with fish because it is still dead and uninhabitable. Meanwhile, far far away the executives of BP are playing with Dolphins in their Yachts near the Mediterranean. Their company recovered and eventually made record profits. One of them looks back at you through my eyes and says "U mad bro?".

The federal government is as much to blame for this disaster as BP is. Signing off on paperwork without actually doing the research, expediting BP's drilling request, etc. Not to mention spending more time and effort trying to get money out of BP than they spent actually trying to plug the hole. Someone should sue the feds for whatever they get off of BP. Also, BP could possibly argue double jeopardy, seeing as the US has already sued them and demanded a lot more from BP since the accident happened. [editline]17th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=SM0K3 B4N4N4;26755043](though off shore oil drilling should just go away period.)[/QUOTE] And then how would you get oil? You don't want them drilling in the sea, you don't want them drilling on land....should we just be at the mercy of the middle east, like we were in the 70s? You're probably a teenager and don't know what happened, but the middle east stopped selling us oil at a decent price back in the 70s, and it nearly brought the US to a grinding halt. [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis]Read up, before you spout off.[/url]

Hey look, the republicans are defending the oil companies

Hey look, I'm not a Republican

[QUOTE=Itsjustguy;26757052]Bankers kinda got away.[/QUOTE] That's what I mean. The BP execs who ordered corners cut shouldn't get away.

As far as I'm aware, the federal government has a big portion of the blame here. Now if I could just find that video.

[QUOTE=Pepin;26760009]As far as I'm aware, the federal government has a big portion of the blame here. Now if I could just find that video.[/QUOTE]Source? It was BP. Get over yourself.

god forbid we run out of shrimp and fish to stuff our fat asses with that would be a fucking TRAVESTY

I say the Government should take all of BPs money and throw it at our massive debt, that should take out at least 1/6 or 1/4 of it. (or more, how much is it these days?)

[QUOTE=Takeout;26795257]I say the Government should take all of BPs money and throw it at our massive debt, that should take out at least 1/6 or 1/4 of it. (or more, how much is it these days?)[/QUOTE] You are secretly Hugo Chavez, aren't you?

So they get to claim unlimited damages, yet [I]Halliburton[/I] Group, who caused the Nigeria oil spill, which completely dwarfs the gulf oil spill ([url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/30/oil-spills-nigeria-niger-delta-shell[/url]) get to settle out of court for only $250 million? Where's the fucking fairness in that? I suppose Nigerians cant afford to sue everyone and everything for what they are owed. This is an absolute fucking disgrace.

whats funny is that the money used to pay for the damages is probably going to be spent to buy more oil in the long run

[QUOTE=Kade;26809798]So they get to claim unlimited damages, yet [I]Halliburton[/I] Group, who caused the Nigeria oil spill, which completely dwarfs the gulf oil spill ([url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/30/oil-spills-nigeria-niger-delta-shell[/url]) get to settle out of court for only $250 million? Where's the fucking fairness in that? I suppose Nigerians cant afford to sue everyone and everything for what they are owed. This is an absolute fucking disgrace.[/QUOTE] 2.9 million barrels over thirty years is a lot less damage than 4.9 million in a few months. The only difference between the two is that in Nigeria, the damage is clear.

Well I just hope that the money actually goes where it's needed.