Trump administration tells EPA to cut climate page from website: sources - Polidicks

[QUOTE=OvB;51723235]Should put it up under a privately held url. epaclimate.com.[/QUOTE] If I can afford it maybe. Idk how that goes over legally though. Is mirroring websites completely legal or is it a grey zone?

[QUOTE=F.X Clampazzo;51723283]If I can afford it maybe. Idk how that goes over legally though. Is mirroring websites completely legal or is it a grey zone?[/QUOTE] That's a copyright violation. Don't do that. I'd suggest contacting the Internet Archive. They're hosted in Canada now, and their job is archiving the Internet. They've made a point to archive everything Trump has done online, including his deleted tweets, so I'd imagine they're already on this. Couldn't hurt to check, though.

[QUOTE=El Periodista;51723291]That's a copyright violation. Don't do that.[/QUOTE] is it held under the same copyright law as private citizens or companies can be held under? also i think it could technically work as being under education/fair use, in the same vein that something like archive.org exists. as long as they don't claim to be the EPA, which would get them in even hotter water for impersonating a governmental authority.

I think the content on government websites is fair use? At least with images and things. I'm not sure about all the other content.

[QUOTE=El Periodista;51723291]That's a copyright violation. Don't do that. I'd suggest contacting the Internet Archive. They're hosted in Canada now, and their job is archiving the Internet. They've made a point to archive everything Trump has done online, including his deleted tweets, so I'd imagine they're already on this. Couldn't hurt to check, though.[/QUOTE] Wouldn't it be public domain since it's a government agency, or is this different?

[QUOTE=Gamerman12;51723300]is it held under the same copyright law as private citizens or companies can be held under? also i think it could technically work as being under education/fair use, in the same vein that something like archive.org exists. as long as they don't claim to be the EPA, which would get them in even hotter water for impersonating a governmental authority.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]You'd be using someone else's graphics, writing, photography, and whatever else is hosted on that site without permission. You really, really don't want to do that. Internet Archive gets away with it by being a non-profit archival service. That's a lot of paperwork.[/QUOTE] [URL="https://www.cendi.gov/publications/04-8copyright.html#319"]Scratch that, I'm wrong, don't listen to me. I looked it up, as long as you're not asserting copyright, and the website wasn't built by a contractor, you should be okay to rehost it. [/URL]

So something similar happened in Canada under Harper and no one really batted an eye. I hope this time is different.

[QUOTE=J!NX;51723164][url]https://www.epa.gov/climatechange[/url] someone plz the more backups the better tbh[/QUOTE] hopefully the page wont go down but im saving it just in case with this shitty mirroring program [t]http://i.imgur.com/koJpPiJ.png[/t]

[QUOTE=archangel125;51723220]Suddenly I'm very glad that Trump has decided he wants to be at 'war' with the media. They're going to crucify him. It's going to be glorious.[/QUOTE] as long as there's a single pro-trump source (which i'll remind you, he has one in his cabinet) people will just scream "FAKE NEWS!" at the others

[QUOTE=archangel125;51723220]Suddenly I'm very glad that Trump has decided he wants to be at 'war' with the media. They're going to crucify him. It's going to be glorious.[/QUOTE] Unfortunately the media's handling of the election as severely damaged their credibility in the eyes of Trump's supporters and I know some independents that are wary of media they consider too sensationalist. Until he does something that directly does immediate damage to the people that support him he's just going to coast by on the excuse that the media is biased and lying about him.

[QUOTE=Anderan;51723551]Unfortunately the media's handling of the election as severely damaged their credibility in the eyes of Trump's supporters and I know some independents that are wary of media they consider too sensationalist. Until he does something that directly does immediate damage to the people that support him he's just going to coast by on the excuse that the media is biased and lying about him.[/QUOTE] Anyone who still supports Trump after learning about this Orwellian shit is too far gone to help anyway. For all his talk of corruption, there hasn't been anyone more corrupt since Nixon. And without the threat of the Big Bad Clinton to scare the kiddies straight, America's woken up to find that the nightmare was more pleasant by far. The man digs his grave deeper with everything he does, and sooner or later, Americans will have the pleasure of dumping the soil right back on top of him. Maybe then they can move on and pretend it never happened.

Isn't this technically violating the constitution? Or does this not fall under freedom of the press?

Does anyone have links to the stuff in question? I'm going to get my raspberry pi webserver back up and use it to host as much if this as I can. Effectively useless, but eh it's my own act of protest

[QUOTE=paindoc;51723855]Does anyone have links to the stuff in question? I'm going to get my raspberry pi webserver back up and use it to host as much if this as I can. Effectively useless, but eh it's my own act of protest[/QUOTE] Prepare to have that door knocked on by the feds u criminal scumbaggo don't ye know that global warming is just a hoax brought on by libtardo's

[QUOTE=WhichStrider;51723242]"He won't be that bad. You guys are being melodramatic." Yeah okay. Holy shit, this is terrifying and bullshit at the same time.[/QUOTE] People that said that should have gigantic titles that say, "You should never take anything I ever say seriously. I am a gigantic, miserable fuckwit. Please ignore me." I can't believe that our country has sunk this fucking low to where we're allowing our president to act like an actual tyrant who suppresses information, bullies people, and basically runs around thinking he can do whatever he wants with no consequences. Worse still, nothing is being done about it. This man deserves to have his ass kicked. His supporters do too. They're literal enemies of our country and everything that it stands for, and they deserve no tolerance or mercy. Like, there's no middle ground here anymore; you're either with him, or you're against him. We can't keep allowing this to happen. It's getting out of hand needlessly. What's the United States going to look like in four years? Does anybody actually want to find out at the rate things are deteriorating?

Onto it too now, because seriously screw this asshole. [t]https://imgur.com/LJyjRsC.jpg[/T]

Comrade spaghetti reporting in [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/4sdRWLs.jpg[/IMG]

One 20 deep scan and 1 deep external scan coming up. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/gR5SLr9.png[/IMG] I will probably dump this onto github or something idk.

HTTRack is in progress for me too, fuck these assholes. [QUOTE=EskillV2;51723225]And this is one of many reasons why Trump is unfit to be president. Seriously, only reason he's doing this is because $$$ for him self and his inner circle.[/QUOTE] And then they go hide out on an large oil rig off the coast of California whilst the bombs drop and seas rise.

Day 5 of the Trump regime, and he is waging total war against education and scientific research.

[QUOTE=Domokun;51723203]Trump can't deny climate change when the east coast is flooded[/QUOTE] but he'll be dead by then and will have lived his last few years out probably with loads of money from oil and gas. He doesn't give a fuck.

Not that I expected things to be any different, but goddamn this is both depressing and terrifying to read about.

[QUOTE=simkas;51723828]Isn't this technically violating the constitution? Or does this not fall under freedom of the press?[/QUOTE] I think as its a governmental organisation and not the independent press, they're not covered. [editline]25th January 2017[/editline] this is some Kremlin style government, it's fucked up

Tip. Don't think the EPA page would be less than 12gig and take less than 10 hours to dl. Still going. Had to move all the files to my other hdd. Hopefully it doesn't fuck anything up. [editline]25th January 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=paindoc;51723855]Does anyone have links to the stuff in question? I'm going to get my raspberry pi webserver back up and use it to host as much if this as I can. Effectively useless, but eh it's my own act of protest[/QUOTE] Still downloading. They have a pitiful cap and it's a huge page.

[QUOTE=F.X Clampazzo;51724960]Tip. Don't think the EPA page would be less than 12gig and take less than 10 hours to dl. Still going. Had to move all the files to my other hdd. Hopefully it doesn't fuck anything up.[/QUOTE] over 9 hours ive got 18gb worth of data so far

Not sure if people would consider the sources valid, but it seems the USDA has disavowed the gag order. [url]https://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/usda-walks-back-controversial-gag-order-for-government-scientists/[/url] [url]http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-usda-idUSKBN1582OB[/url] [url]http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/316015-agriculture-department-lifts-order-for-lockdown-on-its-research-arm[/url]

[QUOTE=AJ10017;51724968]over 9 hours ive got 18gb worth of data so far[/QUOTE] Hopefully they don't take it down before someone finishes.

[QUOTE=Zero-Point;51725000]Not sure if people would consider the sources valid, but it seems the USDA has disavowed the gag order. [url]https://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/usda-walks-back-controversial-gag-order-for-government-scientists/[/url] [url]http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-usda-idUSKBN1582OB[/url] [url]http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/316015-agriculture-department-lifts-order-for-lockdown-on-its-research-arm[/url][/QUOTE] Added to the OP. Sounds like they're not denying it being sent out, so that's still terrifying.

I'm confused, the original Reuters article is from today where as the one Zero-Point posted is from Yesterday. Is the USDA thing related to what's going on with the EPA?

[QUOTE=AJ10017;51724968]over 9 hours ive got 18gb worth of data so far[/QUOTE] It's because you're downloading the entire website, instead of the climate change page only.