• Treatment for Peanut Allergies "promising"
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When I was in high school during a food tech lesson, a friend of mine threw a pancake at this boy who was allergic to loads of stuff and the teacher excluded him from the lesson. On the exclusion form the teacher said the reason for exclusion was attempted murder
Peanuts are disgusting
Who the fuck cares about peanuts, with all due respect to everyone afflicted; I think it's bigger concern I start coughing my fucking lungs out when particular molds are involved or some asshole wind pollinated plants decide it's the right time to jizz into the atmosphere, or when I run into a dusty room. You can kinda avoid eating a peanut when you encounter one, I can't exactly stop breathing. [editline]31st January 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Cutthecrap;43739029]Its amazes that I've never heard someone being allergic to peanut here in Argentina. Or South America at all. I'm right now in the USA and I've met 2 friends of a cousin that were allergic to peanut and I was like "what?" Is it also common in Europe or no?[/QUOTE] Haven't heard of anybody allergic to peanuts here but people don't eat peanuts anywhere as often, either, so maybe some people don't know about it.
"Stop breathing" is exactly what they'll do if they eat a peanut.
The reason first world countries has more allergies is because we are much more hygenic, it might sound weird, but the immune defense gets "restless" as it has few threats, and when a tiny threat appears, it might trigger a bad response from the immune system. This is not as common in third world countries with poor hygiene as the immune system has constant stuff to deal with. So too much cleanliness might lead to allergies in the long run. This means for a parent that wants their kid to have a lower chance to get every allergy in the world should not scrub their childrens toys with chlorine daily. Germs and such might be scary, but crippling allergies aint fun either.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;43740728]"Stop breathing" is exactly what they'll do if they eat a peanut.[/QUOTE] It's easier to avoid a peanut then to avoid an invisible cloud, sometimes literally entirely everywhere. [editline]31st January 2014[/editline] I mean, I am not saying that it's not good to research ways of helping these people, but I just feel like no matter how deadly peanut is for you, it's not as bad as people who can just suffocate literally any day no matter how cautious they are.
[QUOTE=Sungrazer;43737035]Keep it up guys, anything we can do to mess with natural selection and fuck up the gene pool is a good idea.[/QUOTE] This is the second post of yours that I have read that is completely moronic. You should do us a favour and get a vasectomy so [i]you[/i] don't ruin the gene pool any further than your parents did.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_parasitic_worms_on_the_immune_system[/url] parasitic worms are the cure for allergies, afaik this is common knowledge but nobody will suggest getting infested with parasites because its gross.
[QUOTE=Sungrazer;43737035]Keep it up guys, anything we can do to mess with natural selection and fuck up the gene pool is a good idea.[/QUOTE]Let me put this bluntly; without the benefits of science and a strong, well-functioning society, [I]you[/I] probably wouldn't last very long at all. Care so much about natural selection (a concept Darwin [I]never[/I] applied to humans nor advocated applying to) and genetic purity? Start with yourself, kthx.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;43740799]It's easier to avoid a peanut then to avoid an invisible cloud, sometimes literally entirely everywhere. [editline]31st January 2014[/editline] I mean, I am not saying that it's not good to research ways of helping these people, but I just feel like no matter how deadly peanut is for you, it's not as bad as people who can just suffocate literally any day no matter how cautious they are.[/QUOTE] Hay fever is a pain in the ass, but it's not really on the same level of severity as a food/venom allergy. Of course, you also have asthma which can be heavily exacerbated by exposure to pollen or spores but that's not an allergic reaction - it's not like a doctor who specialises in the research of treatments and preventatives for severe allergic reactions would focus on asthma. Science is multidisciplinary - we can progress on hundreds of fronts at once.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;43741019][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_parasitic_worms_on_the_immune_system[/url] parasitic worms are the cure for allergies, afaik this is common knowledge but nobody will suggest getting infested with parasites because its gross.[/QUOTE] Or maybe scientists want to do a little more research before people start sticking worms up their intestines? There's a reason they're called parasites, your own link indicates as much.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;43741393]Or maybe scientists want to do a little more research before people start sticking worms up their intestines? There's a reason they're called parasites, your own link indicates as much.[/QUOTE] Yeah I realize, I'm not saying it's a magical cure but there have been people who have cured their allergies by being infested with parasites and then getting rid of the parasites.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;43740799]It's easier to avoid a peanut then to avoid an invisible cloud, sometimes literally entirely everywhere. [editline]31st January 2014[/editline] I mean, I am not saying that it's not good to research ways of helping these people, but I just feel like no matter how deadly peanut is for you, it's not as bad as people who can just suffocate literally any day no matter how cautious they are.[/QUOTE]Trust me when I say this: it's easy to avoid nuts if you constantly stay on your guard. How would you feel if you constantly had to observe your surroundings for something that could kill you and also knowing that the people having nuts would likely not take it away.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;43740799]It's easier to avoid a peanut then to avoid an invisible cloud, sometimes literally entirely everywhere. [editline]31st January 2014[/editline] I mean, I am not saying that it's not good to research ways of helping these people, but I just feel like no matter how deadly peanut is for you, it's not as bad as people who can just suffocate literally any day no matter how cautious they are.[/QUOTE] You do realize that cooking with peanut oil or anything that's been in contact with a peanut can cause someone with an allergy to suffer the same effects - sometimes worse - as eating a peanut if they eat whatever was cooked with it, right? There's also the issue of something like a desert being called something innocuous that you would have no reason to believe would have something you're allergic to in it, but it's in fact one of the primary ingredients. Don't get me wrong. I have abysmal allergies. Pollen, dust, etc., all fuck me up like you wouldn't believe - I've had problems where I was barely able to stumble to the bathroom when I had to take a leak and where breathing became more like 24/7 face explosions. As bad as my allergies get, I do not suffer from any type of food, venom, or even natural material allergy allergy that I'm aware of. I eat tons of peanuts, I can wear latex gloves no problem, if a bee stings me I don't have to go to the hospital. Generally if these people so much as accidentally breathe in peanut dust, their throat swells and shuts. If a bee stings them, they either immediately grab an epi-pen if they have one or call 911. If they touch latex... well actually I don't know if there are any particularly nasty latex allergies out there, but either way it's a pretty severe reaction.
Isn't think just the normal way to desensitise someone to an allergy? Give them the allergy in small doses and slowly increase the dose over time?
[QUOTE=pentium;43734285]I'd blame parents sheltering their children to no end but [B]I have absolutely no data to back up anything[/B] that says this caused a massive spike in people being struck down with one of the three worst things you can be allergic to. Was there even a problem with nut allergies in say the 40's? Is there any data?[/QUOTE] My grandma was fatally allergic to peanuts to the point of going into anaphylactic shock by just being in a supermarket one time, she lived through the 40s
[QUOTE=Zeke129;43746279]My grandma was fatally allergic to peanuts to the point of going into anaphylactic shock by just being in a supermarket one time, she lived through the 40s[/QUOTE] Oh, the great Canadian Peanut Parades of the 40's. Troubling times.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;43740690]Who the fuck cares about peanuts, with all due respect to everyone afflicted; I think it's bigger concern I start coughing my fucking lungs out when particular molds are involved or some asshole wind pollinated plants decide it's the right time to jizz into the atmosphere, or when I run into a dusty room. You can kinda avoid eating a peanut when you encounter one, I can't exactly stop breathing. [editline]31st January 2014[/editline] Haven't heard of anybody allergic to peanuts here but people don't eat peanuts anywhere as often, either, so maybe some people don't know about it.[/QUOTE] Question: Why can't they do both exactly? I mean they're both problems. Not just yours. And the peanut allergy is kinda very easily fatal. Yeah, having allergies from pollen and different molds and stuff sucks horribly, in the summer I can barely even do anything because I can't even concentrate on anything due to my allergies acting up and a lot of that is spent blowing my nose, consciously regulating my breathing, etc. but it's still something that can be easily lived through for the vast majority of people.
[QUOTE=Alice3173;43746382]Yeah, having allergies from pollen and different molds and stuff sucks horribly, in the summer I can barely even do anything because I can't even concentrate on anything due to my allergies acting up and a lot of that is spent blowing my nose, consciously regulating my breathing, etc. but it's still something that can be easily lived through for the vast majority of people.[/QUOTE] Oh actually I forgot to mention this in my post, but anyone who has really bad nasal allergies like that should see about getting a sample or small bottle of Zyrtec. I don't like nasal sprays so I always stayed away from it, but a buddy gave me some of the tablets a while back and it works wonders. Just as good as Benedryl without passing out 30 minutes later.
[QUOTE=Lijitsu;43746588]Oh actually I forgot to mention this in my post, but anyone who has really bad nasal allergies like that should see about getting a sample or small bottle of Zyrtec. I don't like nasal sprays so I always stayed away from it, but a buddy gave me some of the tablets a while back and it works wonders. Just as good as Benedryl without passing out 30 minutes later.[/QUOTE] Talk about a funny coincidence. I've been up four hours without sneezing or anything but the second I start trying to read this post I started sneezing. I ended up sneezing like 6 times. :v:
It's funny this article mentions micro doses and slowly getting used to an allergy. I used to have ultra-crippling pollen, dandruff, dust and pretty much everything allergies until I got a fuckton of shots over about 2 years and got used to them. It's the difference between swollen faces + breathing problems versus a bit of an itch in your nose. I love science.
Replace peanut with penis and it sounds like learning to take anal.
I have a peanut allergy and can I just say that the faster this is done the better. The amount of people that wave peanut foods is stupidly high. I don't get the enjoyment of basically waving a loaded gun at someone.
[QUOTE=draugur;43735073]Probably a specially made formula after they isolated the specific compound in breast milk you were allergic to and just excluded that or something. Modern medicine is fucking awesome with the things we can do.[/QUOTE] Kids that don't drink breastmilk turn emo.
I have never had peanut butter.
[QUOTE=Sungrazer;43737035]Keep it up guys, anything we can do to mess with natural selection and fuck up the gene pool is a good idea.[/QUOTE] A species eliminating its own weaknesses is anything but messing with natural selection.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;43740690] You can kinda avoid eating a peanut when you encounter one, I can't exactly stop breathing. [/QUOTE] The problem with peanuts is they're so common and ubiquitous that it can end up in foods you wouldn't expect, due to things like factory machines that deal with multiple kinds of foods including peanuts getting traces of peanut into various foods. Look at some food labels some time, a lot of things especially candies have allergy warnings about this.
[QUOTE=pentium;43734544]Well this is news to me. Why do you think I said "I have absolutely no data to back up anything"? All I know is that schools get pissed when you chase students with sandwiches (I was suspended two days for that).[/QUOTE] considering some peoples peanut allergies can be fatal you should have been suspended for much longer. [editline]1st February 2014[/editline] also your general attitude about people with peanut allergies is really odd, you seem to be angry about it or something. whats going on?
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