Muslims must embrace our British values, David Cameron says
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[QUOTE=stoopidity;27868306]I like David Cameron. I thought his job directing Avatar was fucking fantastic, and I'm confident in his decisions as a Prime Minister.[/QUOTE]
You mean James Cameron.
What the fuck are 'British values'? Screwing your country over cos dai, that's the only thing your good at.
[editline]5th February 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=thisispain;27867845]i'm not angry, i just have a potty mouth
yeah but ultimately it hasn't got much to do with anything
but you are missing my point. britain is nowhere close to having complete freedom of speech and religion, democracy and equal rights regardless of race, sex or sexuality, so why do we have to somehow chalk that up and start pushing it around as if it was somehow british culture. sure teach people about those things, absolutely no issue with that, but people don't see it that way, they see muslims as antagonistic and that they are somehow against freedom of speech and religion, democracy and equal rights regardless of race, sex or sexuality, which isn't true. ultimately, david cameron is reflecting those things.
i'm challenging the status quo, and david cameron believes the status quo should be taught[/QUOTE]
I mostly agree with you, but it's only one person who'll probably be kicked out in the next election.
[editline]5th February 2011[/editline]
To be honest I think Cameron is talking a pile of shit, that isn't going to change anything. There's no way you can force someone to believe in something morally, and this is what Dai is suggesting.
I agree with this...
[QUOTE=stoopidity;27868306]I like David Cameron. I thought his job directing Avatar was fucking fantastic, and I'm confident in his decisions as a Prime Minister.[/QUOTE]
Post of the year - 2011
Sorry if I'm repeating a post.
Our societies are too different to live together. I think Britain has been tolerant for too long, for a community to be welcomed into a country, receive all the benefits and comforts of a British citizen from the moment they step on British soil and then still treat a country with such disrespect by not conforming to the British way of life and especially preaching their hatred for us on our own soil. That is taking the piss. Some people may call me racist, but it's not the race I hate, it's the behaviour, regardless of where they're from. Until you experience it in your own city you don't understand the seriousness of the problem. Once nice parts of town have been transformed into shitholes where they have all moved in, the kind of place where you would take a shortcut home but these days people avoid it because it's like downtown Baghdad, crime rates have soared and everyone is sick of it.
It's about time we took a stand, in hard economic times we need to start looking after ourselves first.
[QUOTE=thisispain;27866196]shut the fuck up you thatcherite moron
liberalism is about acceptance and allowing people to hold whatever values they want within law and almost all british muslims do so so shut the fuck up
stop exploiting a small group of people and open your fucking eyes, your hero Maggie only fucked up the country and now you wanna talk about muslims?
give me a fucking break cameron[/QUOTE]
You're absolutely right. While we are at it, let's introduce Sharia Law.
...The point I'm making, by the way, is that you don't change an entire countries values just to meet the needs of a specific group of people. If people are coming to our country and refusing to adapt, then that is their problem.
Also, stop with the Thatcher shite. I won't get into an argument over whether she was good or bad, but every party has their share of wankers. Labour had Tony Blair and Gordon Brown. The Lib Dems have Nick Clegg.
Must? No. Should? Yes. Will? Fuck no.
The reality of the matter is that you can't force people to believe and embrace what you want them to, simply because it will not be a genuine belief that they will hold willingly. That's assuming you're lucky enough to have them even listen long enough to even hear out what you have to offer them.
Nothing's going to change with this situation. Here, or anywhere else.
An argument here is that you shouldn't try and force British value - e.g. secular-style equality, language, etc. - onto immigrants as that's forcing a culture onto someone. However, British Muslims can't live completely segregated lives away from mainstream Britain, e.g. following sharia law and courts ahead of the mainstream legal system. You can't have a unified nation when multiple groups share nothing in common.
I don't recognize the UK valueing muslim values when they reigned one third of the world population back in 18th/19th century.
I know it sucks GB, but this is your heritage and this is what you get for using millions and millions of people as cheap slavelike labour workers in the past.
Of course the people of today aren't responsible but it's their heritage.
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[QUOTE=sam.clarke;27869778]Sorry if I'm repeating a post.
Our societies are too different to live together. I think Britain has been tolerant for too long, for a community to be welcomed into a country, receive all the benefits and comforts of a British citizen from the moment they step on British soil and then still treat a country with such disrespect by not conforming to the British way of life and especially preaching their hatred for us on our own soil. That is taking the piss. Some people may call me racist, but it's not the race I hate, it's the behaviour, regardless of where they're from. Until you experience it in your own city you don't understand the seriousness of the problem. Once nice parts of town have been transformed into shitholes where they have all moved in, the kind of place where you would take a shortcut home but these days people avoid it because it's like downtown Baghdad, crime rates have soared and everyone is sick of it.
It's about time we took a stand, in hard economic times we need to start looking after ourselves first.[/QUOTE]
I don't think the UK immigrants were as welcomed as you try to descibe it.
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Also why is sam.clarke unbanned and since when? Who silent unbanned him?
[QUOTE=David29;27869785]You're absolutely right. While we are at it, let's introduce Sharia Law.[/QUOTE]
learn to read please
[QUOTE=David29;27869785]but every party has their share of wankers.[/QUOTE]
exactly, they're all fucking shit
[editline]5th February 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=sam.clarke;27869778]
Our societies are too different to live together.[/QUOTE]
amazingly we managed just fine
[QUOTE=sam.clarke;27869778] I think Britain has been tolerant for too long[/QUOTE]
fucking hell mate, you call that tolerant?
[QUOTE=sam.clarke;27869778] for a community to be welcomed into a country, receive all the benefits and comforts of a British citizen from the moment they step on British soil[/QUOTE]
that's a load of bullshit, where on earth did you get that from?
[QUOTE=sam.clarke;27869778] Until you experience it in your own city you don't understand the seriousness of the problem. Once nice parts of town have been transformed into shitholes where they have all moved in, the kind of place where you would take a shortcut home but these days people avoid it because it's like downtown Baghdad, crime rates have soared and everyone is sick of it.[/QUOTE]
that's so utterly dramatic, it could be on a soap opera. show me the downtown baghdad you pulled out of god knows where and i'll gladly walk down it
[QUOTE=thisispain;27869900]learn to read please[/QUOTE]
Since you asked so nicely...
[QUOTE=sam.clarke;27869778]Sorry if I'm repeating a post.
Our societies are too different to live together. I think Britain has been tolerant for too long, for a community to be welcomed into a country, receive all the benefits and comforts of a British citizen from the moment they step on British soil and then still treat a country with such disrespect by not conforming to the British way of life and especially preaching their hatred for us on our own soil. That is taking the piss. Some people may call me racist, but it's not the race I hate, it's the behaviour, regardless of where they're from. Until you experience it in your own city you don't understand the seriousness of the problem. Once nice parts of town have been transformed into shitholes where they have all moved in, the kind of place where you would take a shortcut home but these days people avoid it because it's like downtown Baghdad, crime rates have soared and everyone is sick of it.
It's about time we took a stand, in hard economic times we need to start looking after ourselves first.[/QUOTE]
Only a very small minority will move to a country that they hate the idea of, and those are stupid, but instead of making a pompus speech about how they should be British, just arrest them if and when they break the law.
What the fuck are British values? There are so many types of people in Britain with different views and values that there are rarely are common grounds between all of them.
[editline]5th February 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=David29;27869785]You're absolutely right. While we are at it, let's introduce Sharia Law.[/QUOTE]
When the fuck did we say that introducing Sharia law was a good thing.
Fuck being British. :scotland:
Thank fuck, the conservatives have actually got their fingers outta their arses. Labour fucked up like a bitch when they made a open door policy for britain.
[QUOTE=David29;27869939]Since you asked so nicely...[/QUOTE]
it's extremely annoying when someone runs out while thumbing their nose and puts out a strawman of amazingly daft proportions
[QUOTE=|FlapJack|;27869957]Fuck being British. :scotland:[/QUOTE]
:britain: > :england: + :wales: + :scotland: separate
[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;27867080]Whats the difference between Muslims in sweden and Muslims in the uk?
They need to adapt to western values and society.[/QUOTE]
I live in London in one of the highest areas of muslim concentration (think 1 in 4). They are western. They support football teams, shop in tesco and play cod4. You can talk to them in the street, buy illegal drugs from them, buy things from their shops and all sorts. Lots of my friends are muslims. It's just as if they're people!
My area suffers from irish groups, not muslims.
I don't give a fuck what people do.
[editline]5th February 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=|FlapJack|;27869957]Fuck being British. :scotland:[/QUOTE]
The point boils down to, if the majority already subscribe to values of equality, then it won't affect them, it will only affect a very small minority of people.
[QUOTE=|FlapJack|;27869957]Fuck being British. :scotland:[/QUOTE]
good luck stopping being british when you're part of great britain you fool
Bout time. I bet Stormfront is throwing a giant party. :v:
I think this speech makes a lot of sense even if it turns out to be shameless political grandstanding, the only problem is when people like this:
[QUOTE=ItchyBarracuda;27867539]You deserve a standing ovation sir. Keep crying racism though if you really want them destroying your country that badly.[/QUOTE]
interpret multiculturalism has failed as basic human tolerance has failed.
Finally. The beginning of the counter-revolution.
Need to stop all this liberal nonsense about multiculturalism because dividing up humans and encouraging them to remain divided makes humans hate each other more.
[QUOTE=Hezzy;27867718]I don't know who Jim Crow is.[/QUOTE]
heheheheehehehe
[QUOTE=Taggart;27870552]good luck stopping being british when you're part of great britain you fool[/QUOTE]
"Great" Britain... yeah.
Although, that being said, that's like saying the state of new york isn't the state of new york because it's in America.
[editline]5th February 2011[/editline]
Oh and Brazil is America too because it's in America.
This just in every British Muslim protests against Cameron's breech on freedom of religion, anyone with a brain cell can see that practicing Muslims aren't the same as fundamentalists. I fucking hate Davey C.
[QUOTE=StephenOrlov;27865075]And Americans do this and are called Racists
I'm still backing you up though my British friends.[/QUOTE]
So true.
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Not a race you space cock
[QUOTE=bazyboy;27865286]merkel, chancellor of germany said that multiculturalism doesn't work.
[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11559451[/url]
it's about time really. let's send the muslims back to the middle east where they belong.
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I fucking hate Merkel even more. She's a fat dumb hypocritical bitch who clearly doesn't know how to run a country.
I hope you guys know that by doing this, its giving more fodder for the radicals in the Britain to use to recruit more Muslims to radical Islamism. They can say "Look at the British government, they're discriminating against us because we're different." Whether its true or not I don't know since I've never been to Britain, but I do know that's a way Islamists recruit more followers.
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