• Muslims must embrace our British values, David Cameron says
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[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;27879802]So in short this thread is 6 pages of why Muslims should adapt to British society and 6 pages of why Muslims shouldn't adapt to British society. I stay on my side, adapt to western values and society or get the fuck out.[/QUOTE] obey glorious white leader or die
This is why i am separatist...
[QUOTE=James*;27879452]It's not like the US has an official language[/QUOTE] Most states do, and most of those have English as the official language. [editline]5th February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=James*;27879561] there is no national official language and I think Spanish is actually an official language in some states[/QUOTE] It is in New Mexico and that's about it, because it has Mexico right there in the name.
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;27879875]False dilemma. Also a poor argument[/QUOTE] nyman is too busy fetishizing how "evil" and "non-pc" he perceives himself to be to put any thought into the quality of his arguments
tbh I don't even know what exactly IS British culture, Anglo Saxon?
[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;27879802]So in short this thread is 6 pages of why Muslims should adapt to British society and 6 pages of why Muslims shouldn't adapt to British society. I stay on my side, adapt to western values and society or get the fuck out.[/QUOTE] Man they really aren't that different.
[QUOTE=Lust;27866938]No they just have to not try to force everyone to follow muslim food restrictions, muslim sex restrictions, muslim teachings and muslim laws. ARE YOU DENSE.[/QUOTE] true this don't quote me on this but i'm pretty sure sharia law was accepted as an alternative in britain so many people of muslim [b] OR OTHER RELIGIONS [/b] go by what their book says , which will make sexism , xenophobia and racism continue to exsist
[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;27881090]nyman is too busy fetishizing how "evil" and "non-pc" he perceives himself to be to put any thought into the quality of his arguments[/QUOTE] I got a fetish for many things :smug:
We need to stop the muslims, all the muslim children are brainwashed by the quran. Rewriting their brains. More and more people will converge to Islam, when more than 50% of europe is a muslim the muslim pope will activate the hidden code that has been written into the brain of the islam children ( now grown up) by reading the quran so many times. This code will make them violent and kill all non muslims. Spread the message, stop Islam.
[QUOTE=Notnotprobydoby;27881274]We need to stop the muslims, all the muslim children are brainwashed by the quran. Rewriting their brains. More and more people will converge to Islam, when more than 50% of europe is a muslim the muslim pope will activate the hidden code that has been written into the brain of the islam children ( now grown up) by reading the quran so many times. This code will make them violent and kill all non muslims. Spread the message, stop Islam.[/QUOTE] I though i was the only islamophobic here. It's their choice to be brainwashed or not, it's their choice not to have a choice. This is what people will tell you.
Muslims with bad teeth and monocles?
[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;27881351]I though i was the only islamphobic here. It's their choice to be brainwashed or not, it's their choice not to have a choice. This is what people will tell your.[/QUOTE] I know, but people need to face the truth before it's too late.
[QUOTE=StephenOrlov;27865075]And Americans do this and are called Racists[/QUOTE] A bunch of rednecks do this. This is the god damned prime minister. And you guys try to say your conservatives are our liberals.
[QUOTE=dvondrake;27879381]I'm all for freedom to practice your own cultural beliefs, but sometimes it just gets pushed too far. Example: In the US, at least in the southwest portion of it, you find many things in Spanish because people who immigrate refuse to learn English. Why are [b]we[/b] adapting to [b]them[/b]? Should be the other way around.[/QUOTE] It's not really that bad as you described it. Their culture and food is great, and the advertisements are bilingual too. This is coming from a person who lives veeeeerrry close to the border.
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;27878542] By "your", I'd like to clarify I'm saying your government's. Cameron's statements are inherently hypocritical, they are.[/QUOTE] yeah no i was touching on that i was saying how is it a british value if we as brits are shit at it
Wow, it seems as if a good number of Britons are racist fucktards. I'd welcome the muslim immigration with open arms. EDIT: wow there are a lot of anti-muslim people in this thread. What's wrong with you people? Diversity and multiculturalism are not bad things.
So if the British aren't upholding their values, are they really British values?
I agree with immigrants respecting the freedom of speech, thought and religion we enjoy in the UK - but those are laws. I'd like for different cultures in the UK to integrate more, and forcing people to follow one culture is asking for resentment and trouble down the line.
There's no such thing as British values stop trying to generalize and kill the concept of the individual. Nationalism is fucking stupid.
Who the fuck decided that they could ignore our values and laws in the first place? [b]By values I mean human rights, free speech, women's rights etc.[/b]
[QUOTE=Notnotprobydoby;27881274]We need to stop the muslims, all the muslim children are brainwashed by the quran. Rewriting their brains. More and more people will converge to Islam, when more than 50% of europe is a muslim the muslim pope will activate the hidden code that has been written into the brain of the islam children ( now grown up) by reading the quran so many times. This code will make them violent and kill all non muslims. Spread the message, stop Islam.[/QUOTE] Uh, I can't really tell if you're making a joke or not.
I don't fully understand but isn't this what the BNP and EDL have been saying for ages but sugar coated?
[QUOTE=CoolKingKaso;27881723]Uh, I can't really tell if you're making a joke or not.[/QUOTE] Well you won't be laughing in 20 years from now when you are forced to embrace Islam. Islam pope already used test subjects to test the mind control algorithm (present in EVERY muslim). We know them as suicide bombers.
[QUOTE=Legend286;27881706]Who the fuck decided that they could ignore our values and laws in the first place? [b]By values I mean human rights, free speech, women's rights etc.[/b][/QUOTE] They did?
[QUOTE=thisispain;27866454]except they aren't and if you want to tell me there are more muslim people on benefits than there are "english" people on benefits then i'd have to ask which england did i exactly live in because nothing was further from the truth than that[/QUOTE] I don't think it's the actual number that matters, rather, the percentage of the population. Not that I'm picking sides, just pointing out
[QUOTE=dvondrake;27879381]I'm all for freedom to practice your own cultural beliefs, but sometimes it just gets pushed too far. Example: In the US, at least in the southwest portion of it, you find many things in Spanish because people who immigrate refuse to learn English. Why are [b]we[/b] adapting to [b]them[/b]? Should be the other way around.[/QUOTE] The best way to learn a new language is to be immersed in a society that uses both languages Does seeing Spanish on the side of your box of tampons really upset you that much [editline]5th February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=carcarcargo;27879433]What we should be doing is trying to integrate other cultures into our own, rather than trying to make people give up their cultures.[/QUOTE] How are those two things different? We should be letting people celebrate their culture instead of demanding they assimilate
It's not like British people always integrate into other cultures when they move abroad lol i.e. expat communities in Spain
[QUOTE=Zeke129;27881894] We should be letting people celebrate their culture instead of demanding they assimilate[/QUOTE] Resistance is futile.
[QUOTE=Notnotprobydoby;27881938]Resistance is futile.[/QUOTE] I always hear arguments that multiculturalism doesn't work but I really don't see many problems associated with it in Canada If we can pull it off why can't Britain
canada rules at multiculturalism we own that shit woo party
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