ISRAEL THREAD (Post new Israel threads = get banned)
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Ok, before we get into anything, the people who attacked the commandos were certainly not aid workers in the traditional sense. There were plenty of people on the ship who were, but they aren't the ones who attacked them.
BurnEmDown calling us all terrorist sympathizers and terrorist supporters?
What is he going to call us next?
Anti-Semites.
[QUOTE=PyromanDan;22409494]Guys, he has either been trolling you for many,many,many threads, or he has had his opinions bleached and refitted by israel.[/QUOTE]
he lives in israel
they probably indoctrinate everyone from day one
[QUOTE=JDK721;22406188]:10bux: BurnEmDown is excited about this[/QUOTE]
Nope, :10bux: from you and
:20bux: from HumanAbyss please.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22409700]Nope, :10bux: from you and
:20bux: from HumanAbyss please.[/QUOTE]
:cawg:
because we're going to accept your word as fact when you wouldn't know the truth if it was shoved up your ass
I said that because the only reason someone might rate me dumb on the OP is because of what I said at the bottom, now let's look at it:
"Just like the boardings of the other 5 ships who didn't have violent terrorist supporters, everything went peacefully and no one was hurt."
Now, I assume that people who rated me dumb, deny the fact that the violent people on board the Marmara are terrorist supporters, hence why you are terrorist sympathizers.
For example denying the Hamas is a terrorist organization is being a terrorist sympathizer.
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Well there are other reasons someone might rate dumb actually, but I only call those who deny they were terrorist supporters, terrorist sympathizers.
Why should I care about this? I care about political stuff, not some soldiers getting medals.
[QUOTE=JDK721;22409716]:cawg:
because we're going to accept your word as fact when you wouldn't know the truth if it was shoved up your ass[/QUOTE]
His problem isn't one of not understanding the truth, it's of selectively not remembering the truth.
When a fact gets in the way of his perceptions, he just forgets it.
[QUOTE=ExplodingGuy;22405891]Shouldn't this be done until after the investigation. But if they're honourable soldiers, I doubt they'll accept it.[/QUOTE]
They aren't.
Also, I love this. When Israeli soldiers kill 9 people after boarding a ship in international waters, they get a medal and are called honorable. When the aid workers defended their ship, they're called stupid and deserving of death.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22409742]I said that because the only reason someone might rate me dumb on the OP is because of what I said at the bottom, now let's look at it:
"Just like the boardings of the other 5 ships who didn't have violent terrorist supporters, everything went peacefully and no one was hurt."
Now, I assume that people who rated me dumb, deny the fact that the violent people on board the Marmara are terrorist supporters, hence why you are terrorist sympathizers.
For example denying the Hamas is a terrorist organization is being a terrorist sympathizer.
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Well there are other reasons someone might rate dumb actually, but I only call those who deny they were terrorist supporters, terrorist sympathizers.[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/VTPaU.png[/IMG]
did isreal board while the boat was on international waters
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22409742]I said that because the only reason someone might rate me dumb on the OP is because of what I said at the bottom, now let's look at it:
"Just like the boardings of the other 5 ships who didn't have violent terrorist supporters, everything went peacefully and no one was hurt."
Now, I assume that people who rated me dumb, deny the fact that the violent people on board the Marmara are terrorist supporters, hence why you are terrorist sympathizers.
For example denying the Hamas is a terrorist organization is being a terrorist sympathizer.
[editline]09:43AM[/editline]
Well there are other reasons someone might rate dumb actually, but I only call those who deny they were terrorist supporters, terrorist sympathizers.[/QUOTE]
They are not terrorists nor are they terrorist supporters, only overreacting activists. They aren't sending supplies to hamas, but to the people of gaza.
[B]I hereby claim the State of Israel to be a terrorist state.
By further supporting the actions of the IOF (Israel Offense
Forces) you are a terrorist supporter. In fact, considering you
are israeli, [U]I hereby declare you, by the powers given to me
through sitting on my ass, a terrorist.[/U][/B]
Anyone rating me boxes is a terrorist supporter and sympathizer. :colbert:
See what I did there? I can also claim other people to be terrorists.
Except they were chanting terrorist-associated chants:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3L7OV414Kk[/media]
Some want to be martyrs:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HThF8ft5Cls[/media]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSAxAj2KIdU[/media]
So you see, I formed an opinion based on facts and evidence, and anyone thinking otherwise is ignoring these evidence and facts.
Do you have evidence that people on here are terrorist supporters? There may have been some people who were terrorists on the boat but no-one supports anyone who wanted to get themselves killed.
Christ, can't you just not call them terrorist supporters? It's not that hard and you are making an enemy of pretty much everyone.
The people on board are terrorist supporters, and those who deny it are terrorist sympathizers, I don't think anyone here is a terrorist supporter.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22410128]Except they were chanting terrorist-associated chants:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3L7OV414Kk[/media]
Some want to be martyrs:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HThF8ft5Cls[/media]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSAxAj2KIdU[/media]
So you see, I formed an opinion based on facts and evidence, and anyone thinking otherwise is ignoring these evidence and facts.[/QUOTE]
I was pointing towards you playing the "terrorist" card. Ofcourse they want to kill jews. If x put up a blockade around <-country of origin->, I'd kill x, even if they were "innocent" x starting to live in the occupied area, I would kill, or assist in the killing of the occupants until they would fuck off.
Israel had every right to board the ship. I'm glad they didn't decide to sink the entire ship considering they were about to breach the blockade.
"lol terrorist sympathizers all of you" doesn't work. You're just making a fool of yourself. Even the people that would otherwise agree with you are most likely starting to hate you.
Am I the only one who noticed that they said the protesters took weapons from downed Navy SEALs? What the fuck?
They're still terrorist supporters though.
Again, this wasn't a "card", I didn't say it to win an argument, I said it as it's my opinion and I've said it outside of a real argument.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22410320]The people on board are terrorist supporters, and those who deny it are terrorist sympathizers, I don't think anyone here is a terrorist supporter.[/QUOTE]
Pro-Israeli (especially the israeli) are terrorist supporters, and those who deny it are terrorist sympathizers.
You're wondering why you're a terrorist supporter? Oh, that's simple. See, you want people living near <terrorist cell #253> to have proper supplies and food. Clearly that's an act of terrorist support, considering you are giving the people that live there food.
:downs:
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[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22410366]They're still terrorist supporters though.
Again, this wasn't a "card", I didn't say it to win an argument, I said it as it's my opinion and I've said it outside of a real argument.[/QUOTE]
I'm not a fucking terrorist sympathizer. I hate terror just as much as the next guy, but that doesn't mean I think it's an act of terrorist support to bring food to the people surrounding these terrorists.
You don't try to starve a country to death just because there are some terrorists there.
[QUOTE=capslock;22410398]Pro-Israeli (especially the israeli) are terrorist supporters, and those who deny it are terrorist sympathizers. [/QUOTE]
Except you don't have proof that Israel is a terrorist state.
You're wondering why you're a terrorist supporter? Oh, that's simple. See, you want people living near <terrorist cell #253> to have proper supplies and food. Clearly that's an act of terrorist support, considering you are giving the people that live there food.
[QUOTE=capslock;22410398]I'm not a fucking terrorist sympathizer. I hate terror just as much as the next guy, but that doesn't mean I think it's an act of terrorist support to bring food to the people surrounding these terrorists.
You don't try to starve a country to death just because there are some terrorists there.[/QUOTE]
We're not starving the country, we're sending 171 tons of supplies weekly. And you don't have to be pro-humanitarian aid flotilla to be a terrorist supporter. I don't have any trouble with people who want to bring more food to Gaza, I WANT MORE FOOD TO BE DELIVERED TO GAZA.
I have a problem though with people who say the that several "peaceful" activists who attacked the Israeli commandos were right in what they did.
[QUOTE=Devodiere;22406763]Israels got a name for them but they are pratically the equivalent of the US navy seals. No-one can remember the Hebrew name and it's easier to understand what they were doing if you call them Navy Seals.
They beat down a few and took their weapons apparently, must of grabbed their lethal sidearm. Reports say only one grabbed a weapon and only one was shot while wearing armour so it's not an incredibly serious part.[/QUOTE]
Shayetet 13 (שייטת 13).
Thank you, amazingperson.
[QUOTE=Nyaos;22384548]Boarding them? Questionable.
Shooting them in the face multiple times? Inexcusable by any standards.
When US cops are threatened by clubs, they don't shoot. They use tasers and non-lethal force.[/QUOTE]
Boarding them? Perfectly fine. The US coast guard does it constantly, sometimes for shits and giggles I'll bet. I don't hear anyone crying over that.
Shooting them in the face multiple times? How the fuck would you know if it was acceptable or not? Were you there? Was it you getting beaten with pipes? Considering the boarding team boarded with only sidearms, I'm willing to bet it wasn't their intention to get into violent action, so if someone was shot in the face multiple times, the operator probably violent action was necessary. The location of the shots are irrelevant.
As for US cops, yes, they do shoot people armed with clubs. Happens all the time, but you're probably too ignorant to realize it. Tazers and other non-lethal options aren't reliable, lethal force is necessary when those options fail. Hence why it's usually standard for one officer to employ a non-lethal option while the other covers with a firearm.
I find it very hard to swallow that the boarding team fired on them first when all the "eyewitness" reports come from the very same people trying to attack the soldiers with pipes and knives. Also the boarding party fired on the vessel first, why would the team board with only sidearms? Boarding teams expecting a violent action or a firefight usually don't board with anything less than a longarm (be it a shotgun, rifle or subgun).
Furthermore, why the fuck does a peace protest have body armor and rifle scopes on board? Roleplay party?
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[QUOTE=TH89;22407882]Who the hell needs THREE commanders? Is this the Very Special Forces?[/QUOTE]
hahaha
You do realise that Gaza needs at least double that amount of supplies to give its people basic living standards?
If Israel was starving Gaza they wouldn't send all these tons of supplies though.
Edit:
Israel is only not letting things in, which would reach the Hamas anyway, for example: [url]http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=34903&Cr=palestin&Cr1=[/url]. Or things which aren't basic supplies. The 171 tons is mostly from other countries, obviously, and they could send more if they really care for the people of Gaza.
[QUOTE=Jund;22408701]Since you have poor reading comprehension skills, let me rephrase what I said.
Anyone could have done what he did. I could have done what he did. If anyone could have done it, why is he being awarded?[/QUOTE]
Taking into account that you are unable to construct a fluid and coherent sentence or argument I'm going to explain to you your own argument.
"Person X does Action Y and receives an award. Person X does not deserve this award because Action Y can be accomplished by anyone."
Ignoring the fact that Action Y's real life application requires advanced military training, instantly excluding the majority of Earth's human population (Yes this even includes boastful young forum posters such as yourself) from performing it I'll pretend otherwise and give you a hint as to why this makes no sense on a purely logical level:
Person X did it and not someone else.
It's kind of a put two and two together equation but simple reasoning such as this is way over your head apparently.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22410366]They're still terrorist supporters though.
Again, this wasn't a "card", I didn't say it to win an argument, I said it as it's my opinion and I've said it outside of a real argument.[/QUOTE]
You generally don't win arguments with name callings, but by stating that you pretty much told everyone how ignorant you really are.
By the way, You're still an ignorant and stubborn Zionist nationalist :colbert:
Except I wasn't in an argument.
And you just did exactly what you said was wrong, telling everyone how ignorant you really are.
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;22408994]
Why one earth would a "Peaceful protestet" need weapons and body Armour? [/QUOTE]
> Going to a war zone.
> Has body armor.
You are pretty stupid huh? I mean why would the Red Cross and Red Crescent wear body armour in a war zone? I mean their intentions are peaceful, shouldn't that stop a bullet? :downs:
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