• ISRAEL THREAD (Post new Israel threads = get banned)
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Something tells me the US is going to join the party soon, too.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22429140]In my opinion if Iran sends armed escorts and turns into a conflict it would actually be for the better of Israel since then the international media would actually represent [b]non-biased opinions that may even be biased towards Israel a little.[/b] [/QUOTE] :psyduck:
[QUOTE=Re-y-tard;22429182]And they should have reasonable grounds to do so. But if democracy works there won't be any police-states anytime soon, since majority do want their private life. So you can all rest easy. I think. [/QUOTE] Give them power, and they will abuse it. Happened so many times I don't even need to list an example. The thing is: Internet censoring by government, phone call location saving, data preservation, nude scans, biometric data in documents (fingerprints on IDs and surround views are at least planned), government trojans, are all reality already, simply because of the "omg terrorists" and "I don't have anything to hide" mentality.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;22427710]Never actually met a pro-police state moron before. :hitler:[/QUOTE] I remember when I was younger and my dad listened to Rush Limbaugh he said the exact same thing about the Bush Wiretaps. It's eerily common.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22429140]In my opinion if Iran sends armed escorts and turns into a conflict it would actually be for the better of Israel since then the international media would actually represent non-biased opinions that may even be biased towards Israel a little. I wonder if Iran realizes that they might be helping Israeli here, of course it will only be help if Israel won't lose the war, both militarily and the media war.[/QUOTE] If Israel and Iran went to war, Israel had better not lose after the billions we give to their military each year.
the freedom flotilla asked for it, [I]never[/I]fuck with Israel
[QUOTE=Ker‎o;22418036]Yes, I agree that they could have shot him in the leg or something, but when being attacked by 20 or more people you don't really have the time to deceide where to shoot or so.[/QUOTE] Leg shots are nothing but hollywood bullshit.
hamas won't accept the aide, as a previous article stated
[QUOTE=yawmwen;22429936]I remember when I was younger and my dad listened to Rush Limbaugh he said the exact same thing about the Bush Wiretaps. It's eerily common.[/QUOTE] Wait, did your father say that, or Limbaugh?
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;22430089]Wait, did your father say that, or Limbaugh?[/QUOTE] Limbaugh.
This isn't news - Israel and Gaza are still picking at each other, and the rest of the world squawks from a distance.
great, more dead blockade runners, thank you for throwing your people into the fire, Iran
I'm actually in favor of this. While Ahmadinejad is authoritarian, he's offering a civil service. [IMG]http://firstfriday.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/ahmadinejad.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=johnlukeg;22430020]If Israel and Iran went to war, Israel had better not lose after the billions we give to their military each year.[/QUOTE] I don't think we should be supplying Israel with any money or anything for military assistance. They're not a country to be allied with. It will result in us [western countries] in getting into more trouble.
isreal is pretty shitty killing all of those people and all
Well, this is just gonna keep escalating.
[QUOTE=|FlapJack|;22423538]In the news: Iran support Turks in supporting aids ships. In other news: Israel shoots 9 Turks and 12 Iranians.[/QUOTE] No. You should be spending your time learning your facts before posting absolute fallacies.
[QUOTE=Keyblockor;22430582]Well, this is just gonna keep escalating.[/QUOTE] No it's not. Noticed how it's already faded into the background of news sources, such as CNN?
the people organizing these blockade runs are smart enough to understand how much of a PR mistake it would be to let Iran escort the ships if anyone will escort anything it'd be Turkey, and even then it's doubtful if they'd REALLY go through with it
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22422081]You do realize that only twenty out of 600 people actually fought back, right?[/QUOTE] And out of those 20, 9 got shot. They were only there for a ship inspection, then a whole bunch of people started taking their guns, stabbing them, and throwing them overboard. [editline]10:36PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Zarfa;22422413]No it doesn't, there are israeli jews and then there are jews who are against israel's acts. Just because some jews are considered bad doesn't mean every jew on the planet is bad.[/QUOTE] Yea, but the Jews that don't agree with Israel are batshit crazy. And if you disagree, go watch the documentary Religulous.
Most of you don't understand why Israel is acting like this. Do you forget that once they were granted their land, every fucking country around them declared war with the intention of killing every single Jew in the area. Israel won, +1 Militarism 20/30 years later, Egypt and Syria launched surprise attacks against Israel. Israel wins, +! Militarism. Several conflicts later, Israel is sitting on a high horse because they kicked so much ass. They kicked so much ass, they don't know when to kick ass and when not to. It worsens the situation because pretty much everybody around them wants them dead.
[QUOTE=Uberman77883;22431012]Most of you don't understand why Israel is acting like this. Do you forget that once they were granted their land, every fucking country around them declared war with the intention of killing every single Jew in the area. Israel won, +1 Militarism 20/30 years later, Egypt and Syria launched surprise attacks against Israel. Israel wins, +! Militarism. Several conflicts later, Israel is sitting on a high horse because they kicked so much ass. They kicked so much ass, they don't know when to kick ass and when not to. It worsens the situation because pretty much everybody around them wants them dead.[/QUOTE] use more gun?
I think any country has the right to protect itself... Gaza is sitting right there like a nice little port for entry of Arms, or Terrorist recruits, or any number of things... Israel gave plenty of warning of their intentions beforehand... You just don't run a naval blockade and expect them to wave you in... Any 'Aid' Ship could be loaded with C4, or could be loaded with sour skittles... there's no way to know unless you confirm it yourself. Besides, afterwards Israel offered the aid that was onboard the ships anyway, and they didn't cast the first stone (So to speak) when boarding the flotilla that killed 9... There are multiple videos showing the first commando getting his ass waxed by a mob, along with the next couple fast roping down And there's even reports that their side arms were taken and two of them were shot well before they opened fire on the mob themselves
[QUOTE=The AP]JERUSALEM — The U.S. rock band Pixies has canceled a concert in Tel Aviv this week in the wake of Israel's deadly raid on a Gaza-bound aid flotilla. The group's Tel Aviv promoter, Shuki Weiss, relayed a statement from the band announcing the cancellation "with great regret." The band did not specify why it was pulling out of the gig, but organizers say the decision was related to last week's naval raid, which killed nine pro-Palestinian activists. Various artists have recently come under heavy pressure from activists to boycott Israel because of its treatment of the Palestinians. Elvis Costello recently canceled a planned concert to protest Israeli policies. Others, such as Elton John and Rod Stewart, are still planning to play Israel this summer.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5h9_VQr7RPa67p3TydFvI036Rd0ugD9G5NPVG0[/url] [IMG]http://www.cmj.com/relay/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Pixies-Doolittle1.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/atoz/elvis_costello_momo.jpg[/IMG] I like that they're doing this gesture, then again there lots of students in Israeli that had nothing to do with the killings that have been waiting a long time to see the Pixies, hopefully this will at least send some kind of message to the government.
Yeah, this will show them. 2nd rate western bands, protesting against blockaids and war. Take that guys!
I'm not playing a concert in Israel either, so suck it :colbert:
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;22431737]Yeah, this will show them. 2nd rate western bands, protesting against blockaids and war. Take that guys![/QUOTE] But... The Pixies are awesome :smith:
The blockade is legal. Raiding ships in international waters? Not so much.
And now the US is going to support the blockade and rabble rabble rabble rabble
[QUOTE=Uberman77883;22431012]Most of you don't understand why Israel is acting like this. Do you forget that once they were granted their land, every fucking country around them declared war with the intention of killing every single Jew in the area. Israel won, +1 Militarism 20/30 years later, Egypt and Syria launched surprise attacks against Israel. Israel wins, +! Militarism. Several conflicts later, Israel is sitting on a high horse because they kicked so much ass. They kicked so much ass, they don't know when to kick ass and when not to. It worsens the situation because pretty much everybody around them wants them dead.[/QUOTE] Part of the reason why Israel won against its neighbors is because US provided support. Without US' support, Israel couldn't even beat a rag tag group of militants with rudimentary weapons (Hezbollah).I'm talking of course, about the Israel-Lebanon skirmish of 2006. Such a shame for the most powerful military force in the region.
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