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[QUOTE=Devodiere;22439039]May I direct your attention to a post made by Uberslug several pages ago.
It doesn't matter if they fired first, it doesn't fully justify attacking them. No violent action is considered peaceful or expected no matter what kind of provocation and the provocation required for beating someone like that is nowhere near the threat posed at that time.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, and you're right. Those twenty people who fought back were not peaceful.
Let me outline that for you, [B]Twenty people.[/B] Out of [B]Six hundred.[/B]
I was under the impression that Arabs could join the Israeli military, but aren't required to.
[QUOTE=johnlukeg;22439043]Is this a propaganda bot or something? That'd be interesting...[/QUOTE]
Nope, source is Palestinian. If anyone does propaganda are the Arabs in Gaza, which make you believe there is hunger and lack of supplies there.
Also, ITT: butthurt people that cry and think everyone is racist.
:iceburn:EmDown lol but really, do elaborate please.
[QUOTE=IshMadhim;22439076]Nope, source is Palestinian. If anyone does propaganda are the Arabs in Gaza, which make you believe there is hunger and lack of supplies there.[/QUOTE]
Oh wow.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22439020]Oh yeah, them arabs. Might sell us out.
You know what else you gotta look out for? Them niggers. All them niggers in the army, who knows if they'll sell us out to Africa. Hell, what about them goddamn Koreans? Gooks are gonna let Kim Jong Il walk right into the White House!
You just see, the only people you can trust are good old fashioned native folk. Cause everyone else cares more about what color your skin is that who they support! Us whites and the Jews are the only impartial races, and that's why you've got to watch out for everyone else![/QUOTE]
Now you're being overly politically correct and appear to be accusing me of racism. There is a legitimate concern for Israel to be worried about some Arabs compromising their activities as there is not much distinction between enemy and friend in terms of ethnicity. I never said that all of them are a security concern and I pointed out that I didn't think so, it's hard to prove they won't be a security risk and the precautions that can be taken are not major discrimination in any sense.
[QUOTE=IshMadhim;22439076]Nope, source is Palestinian. If anyone does propaganda are the Arabs in Gaza, which make you believe there is hunger and lack of supplies there.
Also, ITT: butthurt people that cry and think everyone is racist.[/QUOTE]
ITT: butthurt person who thinks everyone is butthurt
[QUOTE=johnlukeg;22439089]Oh wow.[/QUOTE]
Oh wow you believing "the greatest bluff of all".
You have no idea what's going on there, so you can just shut the fuck up and sit in silence.
i hope every jew dies
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[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22439030]Black people also commit more crime than white people. Are you saying we shouldn't let them into the police force?[/QUOTE]
No, since it's not a fight against black criminals.
If criminals were ONLY black then we could consider it, and even then it would be stupid.
[QUOTE=Devodiere;22439096]Now you're being overly politically correct and appear to be accusing me of racism. There is a legitimate concern for Israel to be worried about some Arabs compromising their activities as there is not much distinction between enemy and friend in terms of ethnicity. I never said that all of them are a security concern and I pointed out that I didn't think so, it's hard to prove they won't be a security risk and the precautions that can be taken are not major discrimination in any sense.[/QUOTE]
Once again sir, as I said, black people commit more crime than white people. Does that mean we shouldn't allow them into the police force because they might become crooked cops?
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[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22439107]No, since it's not a fight against black criminals.
If criminals were ONLY black then we could consider it, and even then it would be stupid.[/QUOTE]
[img]http://secretsocietynyc.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/somalia-ss1.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=NoDachi;22439066]Do you agree that Egyptians are not allowed to marry Israelis due to the Egypt Government viewing it as a 'security threat'?[/QUOTE]
No, but I don't mind that. Note that it's not a good analogy, since for example Arabs can marry Jews in Israel, even Arabs who aren't citizens.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22439068]Yeah, and you're right. Those twenty people who fought back were not peaceful.
Let me outline that for you, [B]Twenty people.[/B] Out of [B]Six hundred.[/B][/QUOTE]
And who got shot? The Twenty people who were not being peaceful. I know that there were some on Deck who were not attacking them and were just caught in the crossfire but with so many people running around in a giant mass, you can't expect the IDF to be able to figure out which ones attacked them and which ones didn't.
Six Hundred people were not killed.
[QUOTE=Devodiere;22439126]And who got shot? The Twenty people who were not being peaceful. I know that there were some on Deck who were not attacking them and were just caught in the crossfire but with so many people running around in a giant mass, you can't expect the IDF to be able to figure out which ones attacked them and which ones didn't.
Six Hundred people were not killed.[/QUOTE]
Forty people were shot. Thirty wounded, nine killed. Twenty were fighting on deck.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22439122]No, but I don't mind that. Note that it's not a good analogy, since for example Arabs can marry Jews in Israel, even Arabs who aren't citizens.[/QUOTE]
You really don't like Arabs do you?
[QUOTE=IshMadhim;22439103]Oh wow you believing "the greatest bluff of all".
You have no idea what's going on there, so you can just shut the fuck up and sit in silence.[/QUOTE]
There's never been an independent evaluation of Gaza that hasn't determined it was completely impoverished. Most Israelis know and admit this, even. I have a good feeling I know who your main account is though, so I'm not particularly surprised.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22439109]
[img]http://secretsocietynyc.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/somalia-ss1.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Sorry but I don't understand how is the picture related. Looking at the image name it's got something to do with Somalia.
BurnEmDown on his everyday exercise on Israel related threads
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Not even joking here
[QUOTE=Hoffa1337;22439143]You really don't like Arabs do you?[/QUOTE]
no he's not racist he just doesn't think arabs can be trusted is all
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22439151]Sorry but I don't understand how is the picture related. Looking at the image name it's got something to do with Somalia.[/QUOTE]
He was making fun of you. That picture shows black criminals (somalian pirates)
[QUOTE=Hoffa1337;22439143]You really don't like Arabs do you?[/QUOTE]
Why do you think that?
[QUOTE=Raiskauskone;22439152]BurnEmDown on his everyday exercise on Israel related threads
[img]http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/869/1274905813389.png[/img]
Not even joking here[/QUOTE]
No, he's not smart enough for that.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22439151]Sorry but I don't understand how is the picture related. Looking at the image name it's got something to do with Somalia.[/QUOTE]
Somalian pirates are, for all intents and purposes, black.
So you're saying we shouldn't let black people into the Navy SEALs.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22439165]Why do you think that?[/QUOTE]
Because you pretty much tells everyone how you can't have Arabs in the army due to security risks when everyone knows that's a pretty gross generalisation.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22439109]Once again sir, as I said, black people commit more crime than white people. Does that mean we shouldn't allow them into the police force because they might become crooked cops?[/QUOTE]
Precautions should be taken and anti-corruption should be just as active on them as anyone else. If they have previous afiliations with particular groups, they should be kept at a distance from them. It's just common sense to not give someone a position of power when they could have an interest in the opposite side.
There is no way American soldiers would let the Afghani military make sure that that no weapons are getting through to the Taliban. It's just sensible to be suspicious in some circumstances.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22439153]no he's not racist he just doesn't think arabs can be trusted is all[/QUOTE]
Yes I don't think they can be trusted enough to ask them to fight alongside Jews and against Arabs, sorry if I'm being a little un-politically correct but it's a serious and a legitimate concern and not some "UHHHHH ALL ARABS ARE TRAITORS SANDPIPOL" bullshit.
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[QUOTE=Hoffa1337;22439162]He was making fun of you. That picture shows black criminals (somalian pirates)[/QUOTE]
So? He already said that most criminals in the US were black people, the picture contributed nothing to his point.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22439187]Yes I don't think they can be trusted enough to ask them to fight alongside Jews and against Arabs, sorry if I'm being a little un-politically correct but it's a serious and a legitimate concern and not some "UHHHHH ALL ARABS ARE TRAITORS SANDPIPOL" bullshit.[/QUOTE]
Closet racist.
[QUOTE=Hoffa1337;22439178]Because you pretty much tells everyone how you can't have Arabs in the army due to security risks when everyone knows that's a pretty gross generalisation.[/QUOTE]
It's a legitimate one.
Did the US allow Japanese people in the army during WWII? I don't think so.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22439122]No, but I don't mind that. Note that it's not a good analogy, since for example Arabs can marry Jews in Israel, even Arabs who aren't citizens.[/QUOTE]
It's not an analogy...
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